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#2619470 EC on paper for 15/16.....

Posted by rick zombo on 07 July 2015 - 02:35 PM

I agree about Ottawa.


I also think the Habs rode a hot goalie ALL season. Price is going to have a mortal year and the Habs don't have the line-up to be any better than the 6-8th spot.


Pittsburgh will miss, Boston will miss.


Florida's not quite there yet. Neither are the Sabres.


Columbus will make it in.


Hopefully Detroit has home ice in the first round, but I'll settle for making it in.


Going to be tight

#2619182 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by FlashyG on 06 July 2015 - 04:05 AM

The mistake many making here is assuming that this case even gets before an arbitrator.


Neither side wants that, no player wants to hear his employer explain all his shortcomings in an effort to cut his salary. Nyquist has excellent regular season production but he'd be roasted on his awful playoff numbers to this point. Still I think he'd get a better offer by going to arbitration than what I think he's going to sign before it gets there.


I expect him to take a deal in the 3.75 to 4.25 million range, similar to Kadri's but perhaps a little longer. 

#2619131 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by Echolalia on 05 July 2015 - 06:07 PM

Ansar Khan ‏@AnsarKhanMLive  16m
16 minutes ago

@evan_olive @georgemalik It usually speeds up process of getting deal done because both sides want to avoid unpleasant arbitration hearing.

Yeah, I think a few years back there was a conception that arbitration equals player, agent, and GM are butting heads and it's a power play, but I think I recall Holland saying its a routine process and it's for the best for all groups because it kind of encourages both sides to prioritize getting a deal done instead of putting it off. I tried looking for the exact quote but if I'm not making it all up then it was from a few years ago I think... Maybe someone else remembers this?

#2619088 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by Dabura on 05 July 2015 - 04:00 PM

I mean, I don't actually believe we're going to see a roster defenseman moved out before the start of the season. Kenny's not going to move Quincey to clear cap space and a spot for a kid. He's not going to pull a sign-and-trade with Smith. Maybe (maybe) he moves Kindl, but it sounds like Kindl is being treated as a reclamation project, and we all know how much this organization loves reclamation projects. Even if Kenny did trade Kindl, Ouellet/Marchenko would still have to overtake Quincey/Smith. So, Lashoff would be Kindl's logical replacement.


Oh, and there's also the fact that we spent a first-round pick on each of Quincey, Smith, and Kindl. (And McCollum. Who was just re-signed...for reasons no one can seem to understand...) (Curious, that.)

#2619025 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by krsmith17 on 04 July 2015 - 04:23 PM

With the 1-3-1 power-play setup, using one defenseman, I think it kind of defeats the purpose of having that great left-handed (Kronwall) and right-handed (Green) offensive defensemen on separate units.

I'd love to see two different units with two completely different setups, using the 1-3-1 with one defender on one, and the standard 3-2 with two defenders on the other. I've heard people say in the past that a team wouldn't adopt this strategy because it would be difficult to practice two different setups. I really don't think it would be at all, and I think it would really keep the opposition guessing...

I'd like to see something like this...

Power-Play Unit 1

Pulkkinen Datsyuk Zetterberg

Power-Play Unit 2

Nyquist Richards Tatar
Green Smith

#2618967 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by Dabura on 04 July 2015 - 07:11 AM

A couple good reads:






I would be ok with trading Kindl or Quincey or Smith to a team that needs to reach the cap floor and giving the vacant spot to Ouellet or Marchenko. Both Ouellet and Marchenko are clearly NHL-ready. Hell, Babcock wanted Ouellet on the roster straight out of last year's training camp. These are not players who need to make major strides in Grand Rapids to prove they belong in the NHL. The only reason we're having this conversation is because there's a logjam (and the only reason there's a logjam is because Kenny rewarded Kindl and Ericsson with dumb contracts and now the two are pretty much untradable). Sure, Quincey and Ericsson are veteran NHLers and Ouellet and Marchenko aren't, and, in theory, a veteran is "better" than a kid. But we're getting dangerously close to Catch-22 territory.


"You need to be an NHLer for me to even consider rating you higher than a veteran NHLer, and until I rate you higher than a veteran NHLer, you can't be an NHLer. Grab dat cheez tho!"


I know, I know - better to have a veteran and a largely unproven kid than just an unproven kid. And that's fair enough. But, at the same time...if we're not planning on re-signing Quincey next summer, and we're not going to make a trade for a young stud defenseman, and we're going to continue to preach the need to get younger and quicker and how vitally important it is that the young players all take a step forward this season...maybe, just maybe, having Ouellet (probably the most promising of all our D prospects) on the third pairing instead of Quincey wouldn't be such a bad thing. Is it the safe play? No. Is it the smart play? Honestly, it probably isn't. But we have one of the weaker D groups in the league, and that's largely because we have a spectacular lack of young stud defensemen on the roster. If we're going to build ourselves a Cup-worthy D corps without the aid of a big trade, that means at least one of the Griffins prospects is going to have to become a stud NHL defenseman. Ideally, that happens while Datsyuk and Zetterberg are still elite, which gives us...two years? This may be a situation where "Eh, another year on the farm never hurt anybody" is not the right call.

#2618798 Which Sweater Do RWs Retire First - Feds or Ozzy?

Posted by dave989 on 02 July 2015 - 08:41 PM

My vote is just Fedorov. 


Fedorov is a first ballot HOF that was one of the best players in hockey (won the Hart Trophy) in the 90s. Osgood has the numbers and might get in the HOF, but he was never considered among the elite goalies in the league. I might have a different opinion if he won the Conn Smythe, had we won the 2009 Cup, but it is what it is.

#2618828 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by mvanpop on 03 July 2015 - 04:53 AM

I almost think that Holland wasn't too confident he would be able to sign anyone so that's why he said that but maybe Weiss was bought out because Richards had shown interest in signing here.

#2618822 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by kickazz on 03 July 2015 - 01:23 AM

I'm guilty of it too but it's just another example of how you can't read too much into what these guys say to the press.  It's the actions that matter, not so much the quotes.

I mean if I were a GM I would probably do my best to keep media busy by saying bs comments while I did my work behind the scenes. 

#2618768 Tj oshie to washington

Posted by frankgrimes on 02 July 2015 - 04:31 PM

I think this is to create capspace for Tarasenko otherwise it doesn't make sense at all, they gave Oshie away for peanuts

#2618756 St. Louis announces retirement at age 40

Posted by WingsAlways on 02 July 2015 - 04:10 PM

He played with heart and a size much bigger than his frame, I'll give him that, I just think he could have handled the Team Canada deal better. He turned his back on his team and ironically it was Tampa that ended his last game.

#2618533 Holland doesn't expect to be busy this offseason

Posted by FlashyG on 01 July 2015 - 07:39 PM

He managed to find us a RHD we've been looking for since Rafalski retired, he addressed our lack of center depth after buying out Weiss. More importantly he did both without tying us to either player long term so even if they don't work out, it won't be a disaster.


To top if off he and Mr. Ilitch already worked out a pretty awesome new dance routine with our new additions.



#2618506 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by Carman on 01 July 2015 - 06:57 PM

Good signing. It's a contingency plan, with the worse case scenario is a 40 point 3rd line center. We weren't going to use up all our cap space, and Brad Richards is a very reliable, experienced center. This is a nice low risk move I like it.

#2618452 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by derblaueClaus on 01 July 2015 - 05:21 PM

Great signing, this hopefully will give our team the much needed offensive power from the blueline. Sure, the 6 million in the books are a risk, but one worth taking. And our streak with bad UFA signings has to end at some point. As long as he doesn't pick #90 as his number I'm very optimistic Mike Green will help us a lot.

#2618417 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by kipwinger on 01 July 2015 - 04:47 PM

It's laughable at how people complain about Holland doing nothing in years past, and now he goes out a makes some deals today, and some people still complain.


Holland signed one of the biggest d-man F/A's today, then picks up an UPGRADE over Weiss, for only one year, and people still aren't happy.


I'm 100% happy with what Holland did today.  Well done, sir!


The Richards' deal doesn't hurt us, so it's not a "bad signing".  It's just confusing given our center depth and the Weiss buyout.