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#2595381 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 17 April 2015 - 10:17 PM

I don't get why when someone talks about how they hate how a player dives and slashes and cross check that it turns into "why do so many people hate said player so much and give him so much hate" No one in this thread has said anything near that they hated the guy as strong as some people claim....Yeah we hate the way he cross checks,dives..slashes his way around in games and doesn't get called. That's what I hate. Yes is is very talented no one is denying that at all. He is just needs to grow up..stop crying like a punk...stop with the cheap slashes,cross checks...slew foots and dives and he would be an awesome player. Have you guys forgotten how many times he has done this to wings players in the games with no retribution? I think that's why he does it. Wings are way too soft on him.

That someone would be me. And my question wasn't in reference to only comments that were said in this thread, but an overall observation of the vitriol that inevitably surfaces from some posters when PK Subban is discussed. It was an honest question, the purpose of which being to enlighten me as to why people feel this way as I'm clearly missing something and fail to see how he is so polarizing. Those that wish to share their opinions were welcome to, and those that prefer not to discuss it can refrain from doing so. This is a discussion board, after all. The fact that you got so offended or read into what was truly an honest question is your issue, not mine, as I am welcome to ask whatever I wish. If you don't want to justify your hate for Subban, don't. It's as simple as that.

#2595364 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 17 April 2015 - 08:43 PM

Ok, the people who *don't* hate Subban responding to my question of why people hate Subban is not helping me understand why people hate Subban :lol:

Other than validating *my* opinion, which I'm always down for.

#2595314 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by jimmyemeryhunter on 17 April 2015 - 06:48 PM

I want them to beat each other into burger...
If we win, well play the winner.
So go balls out.
Do it for stone.
And p.k.
1-0 ottawa

#2595301 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 17 April 2015 - 06:24 PM

So excited. I love it when the drama doesn't include us...

#2595201 Post-GDT ECQF Game 1: Red Wings 3, Lightning 2 (DET leads, 1-0)

Posted by vladdy16 on 17 April 2015 - 11:28 AM

So this is what having your goaltender commit highway robbery feels like.  I could get used to this.


Bolts played a great game.  Do they have more to bring to the table?

Wings played a mediocre game.  We all know they can play so much better.  The question is will they?


Bolts meet or exceed our speed, which Detroit isn't used to.  Wings have to check, check, check, check, check.  It simply cannot be overstated.  Backcheck, forecheck, and everything in between.  They also need to start throwing some of those good open-ice hits Tampa was so free with.

#2595240 The Chief has been fired

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 17 April 2015 - 12:38 PM

@Proteautype: John Tortorella in Philly would be the Flyersest thing in the history of Flyerdom.

#2595141 Franzen on IR

Posted by kliq on 16 April 2015 - 11:09 PM

The guy needs to retire. Not because it helps us with the cap, not because he isnt the same player, not because he floats around. He needs to retire because enjoying the next 60 years of his life is more important then a game.


I wish him the best, nobody deserves this. Just sucks.

#2595094 Post-GDT ECQF Game 1: Red Wings 3, Lightning 2 (DET leads, 1-0)

Posted by joesuffP on 16 April 2015 - 10:04 PM

we really don't need to s*** all over Howard just because Mrazek played a good game

Won't lie and say that I saw this coming.  Still shaking my head at how Wings pulled that one out of the hat.  


Not to temper people's excitement but I'm still a realist.  Last year, we won first game vs. Boston then lost next 4 and out in 5 ...

That's what I keep thinking about

#2593969 ECQF Game 1 GDT : Red Wings at Tampa Bay Lightning, 7:30 EST

Posted by wings87 on 16 April 2015 - 03:43 PM


In Tampa they're apparently beating the same drum Flip has heard his whole career.  "SHOOT MORE!!!!"


He finished the season with 91 SOG.  Jurco has more shots on goal then Flip and he only played 11 and a half minutes a night for 63 games.  Whereas Flip played 19 minutes a night for 82 games, 3:23 of which is on the power play.  


I always liked Flip but good god, he's been hearing this whole career and doing little about it. 


Must be a different drum though since the drum the Wings had probably looks like this: 



#2593931 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by kipwinger on 16 April 2015 - 02:23 PM


Wow. I can't believe he didn't get a fine for threatening retribution.  He even starts his threat by asking if he should take the fine. 


It's good theater, I'll give him that.  His team was pretty massively outplayed.  If his comments spark them, then I'd pay the fine if I were the owner.  But I really don't see it happening.  It's certainly not to their advantage to be shorthanded for the remainder of the series.  I get what he's trying to do, but I think he's going to have to really manage the team well in order for it to work.  Playing completely undisciplined hockey now, and letting tempers flair, is completely opposite of what got them here in the first place. 

#2593873 ECQF Game 1 GDT : Red Wings at Tampa Bay Lightning, 7:30 EST

Posted by kylee on 16 April 2015 - 12:35 PM

Why isn't Pulkinnen in the lineup?

Because he shoots the puck like he thinks he's Brett Hull....but doesn't score like Brett Hull

#2593781 No Scoring and No Fighting

Posted by kipwinger on 16 April 2015 - 10:20 AM

is it the fighting that has effected the former goons or the drugs/booze? name a former goon that wasn't an addict that has health issues. Grimson was always clean and to date hasn't shown any health issues that I am aware of. Gordie was one of the toughest ever and is in his mid 80's before a stroke slowed him down.

When Probert died everyone was quick to talk about all his fights but very few mentioned the long term serious drug use. McCarty has the same thing with booze.

Of course this is a side issue.....


CTE directly contributes to mental health issues, including substance abuse, depression, and suicide.  It's not a side issue, it's almost certainly a primary factor in many of these cases.


Edit:  Also, one of the more common symptoms of CTE is dementia, so I wouldn't go holding up Gordie Howe as some sort of example.  Terrible Ted might be a better choice. 

#2593699 Franzen on IR

Posted by gcom007 on 16 April 2015 - 12:44 AM

Can Mlive not afford a decent microphone?

Video clip of Franzen talking about his concussion symptoms. When one reporter asks if it's scary since it was his third or fourth concussion, Franzen responds "I've had a few more than that."

Has he really? If he's really up to 6 or 7 concussions, it's definitely time to call it a career.



Rough. And from what I remember from earlier in the thread, it was suggested that this was his 10th concussion. No matter what anyone thinks of him as a player, it's impossible not to feel for him as a person. I, luckily, can't even imagine how hard this must be on him. Given how bad this one seems to have been and how many he's had, you really wonder if it wouldn't be best for him to hang them up. I'd honestly be fine with him coming back, and generally have had no agenda against him, but I wouldn't blame him at all for riding off into a Pronger-esque retirement. There are things more important than hockey. If one could guarantee that he'd never get another concussion, it'd be one thing, but that's simply not possible, and there are bigger things in life than hockey.

#2593524 ECQF : (7) Sénateurs d'Ottawa vs. (2) Les Canadiens de Montréal

Posted by vladdy16 on 15 April 2015 - 07:35 PM


So are they going to do that with every player or just a star even though I don't think he should get a game....

I have no frickin' clue what they're thinking.  Normally stars get the benefit of the doubt, Subban gets a game for an admittedly blatant and unnecessary slash, but not ejection worthy.  I really need to apply to be an NHL ref.  I can call a better game without my glasses.

#2592970 Babcock: Petr Mrazek is starting Game 1

Posted by rick zombo on 13 April 2015 - 01:57 PM


And with the help of Cammalleri, who was a man possessed in those playoffs.   


I could see a forward getting hot like that long before I could see the D being physical and mistake free.