Problem is, you're going to pay Kindl one way or another and waiving him only gets you minimal cap relief. It's not a situation like Samuelsson where you waive him and only have to pay for the remainder of the season. In Kindl's case you'd be paying for 3 more years.
Best case scenario you start him on the third pair, and second PP. Hopefully he can produce (initially) at the pace he did a couple years ago and he'll have some trade value. Right now he's got no trade value and he's too expensive to demote.
Good point. I always forget the cap space rules when you waive a player. And a trade seems unlikely unless he's packaged with a valuable player.
I completely agree that Quincey gets way more flack than he deserves on this board. He is a solid defenseman, he is just often times confused with the offensive game he showed in LA and Colorado, which he is not.
I'm not in any way, shape or form trying to defend Kindl. I want him off this roster as much as the next guy but what people tend to forget is that he is still relatively young in terms of Red Wing defenseman standards. He is 27 years old, 3 years younger than Ericsson. Does anyone remember the outrage on this board three years ago when Ericsson signed that new contract? There is still plenty of room for Kindl to grow, I just think he is running out of time. There are plenty of hungry kids that will pass him on the depth chart within the next couple seasons.
Also, I wouldn't say he has NO trade value at this point. I do think his value to other teams may be very minimal, but I do believe he could garner at least a mid to late round draft pick.
I personally think he's already out of time. With 230 or so NHL games under his belt, I just don't see him improving much. He's been battling for a bottom pairing spot all of his career. With his skill set and size, he should've established himself by now.
It's what makes Kindl so annoying for me. Kindl is as big or bigger than everyone on the Wings except Ericsson and Franzen, but he plays like he's Rafalski sized and will bail on making a play to avoid getting hit.
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