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#2325390 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 15 August 2012 - 05:30 PM

I agree wholeheartedly that Bettman is a prick, but remember what i was saying about the NHLPA not adding a lot of different issues in their proposal.

From Gary Bettman's statement:

"There's still a wide gap between us with not much time to go," NHL commissioner Gary Bettman told reporters after Wednesday's session. "This is a process that we're going to continue to work hard on. I think there's still a number of issues where we're looking at the world differently."

Bettman says he understands what the NHLPA has put forth, but adds that it isn't a full proposal and he is "disappointed" that he's still waiting for one at this late stage.

I normally don't agree with the Anti-Christ, but I was sort of afraid of this being the answer back from the NHL. The players while being reasonable in their proposal, once again like i said earlier, left out the meat and potatoes of the new CBA. They added jack about contract length and front loading contracts and all that stuff. They want a quick fix and want to play when the scheduled games start, but they need to cover all aspects when they make their counter proposals.

Bettman is just pulling more political bs to try and make the union look bad. It doesn't sound like the players left out the meat and potatoes, they just didn't include everything Bettman would want in there. Which isn't really a surprise considering it's a negotiation.

I don't know that the players didn't cover all aspects. I don't agree with it but it sounds like they don't want contract length limited. So there's not going to be a provision offering that.

And what good is a "full proposal" from the NHL when most of what they proposed is insane?

Just listen to the tone that Fehr takes in his public comments about the CBA negotiations, then listen to Bettman. Bettman takes every opportunity to take shots at the union and threaten lockout. When the NHL took until mid July to give their first proposal to the players union, was he disappointed in the timeline then?

Seems like Bettman's got a case of short man syndrome and loves to wield his power whenever he's given the opportunity. That or he really wants to get the lockout hat trick.


#2325366 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 15 August 2012 - 02:07 PM

Bettman's response, from THN's "The Stats Guy"...


He's such a prick.

The NHLPA's response might have been more timely had they known the league's offer would be insane and not worth waiting to see before responding.


#2325190 What do you consider a fair CBA?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 August 2012 - 02:04 PM

3 LOCKOUTS! unacceptable!


This, we already lost a season of a still prime 35 year old Lidstrom. Are we potentially about to lose a season where Dats is 34 and Z is 31?

They're going to have to put an asterisk by total stats for players whose career fell under Bettman's reign because they lost a season and a half (and counting) of hockey and had to suffer through a decade of clutch and grab before the league did anything about it.


#2324662 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 August 2012 - 02:49 PM

Getting ahead of ourselves aren't we fellas? Just because Bettman says they will lock out doesn't mean there will be one. That crazy bastard in Iran keeps saying he's going to wipe Israel off the map but we haven't see any of that either. So far, it's all theater and should be treated as such.

Bettman has never renegotiated a CBA without a lockout so when he threatens to lock players out again, it's hard not to fear the worst.


#2324492 Top 20 Worst Corsi - 3 Red Wings

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 August 2012 - 04:45 PM

I don't put much stock in Corsi stats. I can understand the desire for statistical analysis, but there's just so many variables changing second to second.

Hockey's not baseball (thank god).


#2324491 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 August 2012 - 04:41 PM

IMHO, there is blame on both sides.

The players and agents are using loopholes in the current CBA to force teams to sign these players to long term deals. The owners are equally at fault for signing those deals. The Red Wings have already been forced to sign Franzen to a long term deal that he could have gotten somewhere else. The owners and GMs want to field great teams, and its hard to do when a couple players are handcuffing the team for 10-15 years in some cases.

As evidenced in any professional sport, if there is a loophole like this and it is exploited by the players, there will be a couple dumbass owners who will sign them. Hell, just a couple months ago, the Red Wings nation was dying to get Suter for 12 years and $80 million, and if Holland couldn't get it done then its his fault. Thats just evidence of a damaged system.

That being said, I am disappointed with Bettman's stance on this. I would hope they would have continued negotiating without a lockout. Now, he wants a lockout if its not done in 5 weeks. Good luck I suppose. I hope there are plenty of late night bargaining sessions scheduled for 5 weeks.

The thing is, in spite of the league making record revenues the owners want a huge reduction in salary by the players. Their biggest requests have little to do with remedying these massive contract lengths and cap hits. Most of their demands are just a money grab. They don't address any of the loopholes.

If there's a third lockout, Bettman should absolutely 100% lose his job. Yes it takes two to tango, but all three stoppages have been lockouts by management, not strikes. And this should be the easiest one to settle of all of them. Bettman has zero diplomacy skills and sets a hostile tone from the get go.


#2323569 Ryan trade is a must!

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 02 August 2012 - 01:26 PM

Are you kidding? Franzen is easily the one of if not the best piece of trade bait the Wings have. The only drawback against him is the length of his contract, but considering his production vs his cap hit he's among the best valued players in the league.

Who cares if he needs a set-up man to produce, he's not paid to be a superstar, he's paid to do exactly what he does every season. Put up around 30 goals and produce around 50-60 pts.

What exactly do Franzens critics expect of him? 40-50 goals? If so he should be making a lot more than 3.95 million a season.

It's been stated several times what Franzen's critics would like from him. Sure 40-50 goals would be great, but I'd settle for a more consistent effort on the ice. When Zetterberg isn't scoring you can still see how hard he's working out there. Trying to get his shots, backchecking, carrying the puck in the high traffic areas.

At his worst Franzen is content to float around, not using his considerable size, and just wing the puck at the net from low-percentage areas.


#2323439 Your Favorite Hits

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 01 August 2012 - 03:42 PM




#2323231 Holland losing his moxie? Is Detroit slipping as UFA destination?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 31 July 2012 - 01:56 PM

I wouldn't call Howard elite but like Osgood I think he is a great value goaltender. He provides solid goaltending at a decent contract so the Wings can spend money elsewhere.

Without Lidstrom and the blueline in its current state, it'll be interesting to see if that strategy is as effective.


#2323098 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 30 July 2012 - 07:02 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought E was good last year.

nah, there's a few of us. ;)


#2323043 Wings & Yandle twitter-rumors? Believable?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 30 July 2012 - 02:23 PM

To me he's not a legit source.

Even if he gets this one right, to me any "anonymous hockey insider" with alleged connections to multiple teams has too much potential for BS. It could easily just be a guy who follows a ton of hockey related twitter feeds, fan forums, and makes some educated guesses.

A legitimate source is someone who has their name and identity out there and has a responsibility to get things right and integrity to uphold. Like Dreger and McKenzie.


#2322888 Your thoughts on Sergei Fedorov

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 29 July 2012 - 10:19 PM

Please stay on topic. I've had to remove several posts in this thread.

Discuss the content of the post, not the person making it.

Someone having an unpopular or minority opinion does not automatically make them a troll.


Keep attacking the person directly, no matter how minor, and I'm gonna to have to go all Shanaban on people.


#2322741 claude giroux had 2 wrist surgeries this off season

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 28 July 2012 - 08:37 PM

I don't believe anyone's truly untouchable; anyone can he had, given the right return package.

Humor me.

Especially when you're talking about Holmgren. People probably thought Mike Richards was untouchable when the Flyers signed him to a 12 year deal. Or at least didn't think their captain in Richards and leading scorer in Carter (on an 11 year deal) would both get shipped out.


#2322684 NHL Investigation

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 28 July 2012 - 04:44 PM

Also from the article:

The officials in charge of the game clock at Staples Center that night worked for the NHL and not the Kings.


How do you screw up letting the clock run, lean on the button accidentally?

Guy must have had money on the Kings or something. :P


#2322682 claude giroux had 2 wrist surgeries this off season

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 28 July 2012 - 04:37 PM