The team in general is awful. Not just Franzen. Everyone except for maybe two people.
I don't disagree, but when your team isn't doing well especially come playoff time, you look to your big players. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen.
Dats and Z haven't been bad and even when they're not scoring they're strong defensively. When Franzen isn't scoring he's not doing much else. You can't rely on him to hit because half the time when he does it it's because he's mad and bound to take a penalty.
And like I said in another post, he's a known floater during the regular season, taking games off. And the answer is always "wait until the playoffs."
This is such a myth based on a handfull of youtube clips.
It's a disgrace to say Vladdy lived off this. He was a predatory hitter like Kronwall is and Stevens was, but Vladdy kept his skates on the ice. Stevens too. Of a career worth of hits, people base it on a few borderline hits from Steven's top ten most devastating on youtube and act like he did this all the time. You could make an argument for the Kariya hit, Lindros too. But over his career Stevens was a clean but devastating hitter. Elbows in, skates on the ice.
Torres time and time again shows up late and launches himself off his skates. He's a dirty player. That has nothing to do with what Stevens and Vladdy did.
If the Wings don't make it out of the first round, mostly I'm just ticked that Holland didn't do anything at the deadline. Lids and our star players aren't getting any younger and he had cap room. This was the year.
If the Wings don't make it to the second round, Lidstrom should hang 'em up. He should go out relatively on top rather than trying to carry the team on his 41 year old back and listen to Holland explain away his lack of moves to make the lineup deeper.
Let me clarify, if this reply was aimed toward what I said above. I wasn't saying "get off our forums" or anything like that, but the fact is right now, we are down in the series 2-1 and the last thing on a lot of our minds is to welcome opposing team's fans with open arms considering the current standing of the matchup. It's tense, it's heated, and if Preds fans want to come here in this situation right now that's fine but understand that there's fans here that have been watching the Wings longer than the Preds have existed and expecting a friendly environment is unrealistic. It's not hatred, it's passion for our team. No disrespect intended to any outside non-Wing fans, but I won't be visiting other team's fan sites especially during the playoffs.
Honestly my post was a general response to some of the attitude shown in this thread.
Fans of opposing teams should be aware that things are probably a little tense here when the Wings are behind in a series, and Wings fans shouldn't automatically assume a fan of another team is here to troll. That's all I was saying.
As a mod I probably shouldn't derail threads further than they already are, so let's get back on topic about whatever is going on with this poll.
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