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#2356433 Notes from Saturday's practice

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 16 February 2013 - 04:16 PM

Sounds like White, Kindl and Flip are in Babs doghouse. 

“Two freebies,'' Babcock said. “Kuba (Jakub Kindl) is not in the right spot, should be over here helping out. (Niklas) Kronwall's pass to Fil (Valtteri Filppula) is off his stick, Kuba's not back defensively to look after it.
“Whitey's (Ian White) got it along the wall on a line change, just gives it away, two-on-one. That's the game.
“So, we do everything for 40 minutes to be set up to win and two plays with the puck … We're not the type of team, with what we have, that we're going to recover from turning the puck over. People can say you're bad defensively, well, we weren't bad defensively, there's no defense for turnovers. It's puck plays that give it to us two nights in a row.


--Coach Mike Babcock said he hadn't decided on his lines, but he used Valtteri Filppula with Henrik Zetterberg and Damien Brunner. He's not happy with Filppula's play and basically said he needs to get it together.[/size]

#2355753 Article on assistant GM's ready to move up. Jim Nill #1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 15 February 2013 - 01:07 PM

1. Jim Nill, Detroit Red Wings:
Now in his 15th season as assistant GM in Detroit, he's been GM
material for a long time. And it just so happens that his contract will
soon begin to present itself with annual six-week "out windows" when he
can entertain GM offers from other teams, a source told ESPN.com. The
first window comes this summer. With five Stanley Cup rings and a long
list of late-draft gems on his resume, Nill is a top-notch candidate in
waiting. It would have to be the right fit for him to leave Detroit,
where he's happy and loyal to the Illitch family, but it's a
possibility. You can't go wrong if you name Nill as your GM. He'd be a
superstar hire. 



Obviously it's only Lebrun's opinion but the part about his contract is what makes it sound like there's a legitimate chance Jim Nill could be moving on.  He's been a big and often overlooked part of the Red Wings success. 


With Nil also being a big part of prospect development for the Wings, I have to wonder if Holland's "overly ripe" philosophy was frustrating. 

#2355574 Sens Karlsson suffers lacerated Achilles tendon

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 February 2013 - 05:11 PM

Doesn't matter, all of you who are arguing about intention or not.  If a player unintentionally trips another player, does he get a 2 mins penalty?  If a player unintentionally draws blood when he slashed another player in the face, does he get a 4 mins?  If a player unintentionally sends a puck over the ice, does he get a 2 mins penalty?  Intentionality is secondary.  He was reckless with his skate and caused an injury.  At least 3 games.

For those examples intent doesn't matter because they are against the rules. 


Loathe as I am to defend Cooke, he violated no rule in his hit on Karlsson.  It'd be one thing if he came in skates up pointed at someone but he was hardly reckless with his skate.  It was a hockey play with an unfortunate outcome. 


For as fast paced and crazy as the game is, there are very few injuries due to skate blades.  It's kind of amazing actually.  But they're going to happen from time to time.  This was unfortunately a dirtbag player unintentionally injuring a young star player. 


If Datsyuk or Marty St. Louis had accidentally done it to Karlsson, I doubt people would be arguing so much about it. 

#2354823 Biggest mistake Red Wings have done

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 February 2013 - 06:51 PM

My guess is Sammy was brought in to be a depth forward who can chip in 10-15 goals per year and can play the point on the PP.  How is it that this deal is already doomed to be a failure when he has only played one game? 


Every GM on every team in every sport has made what looks to be bad moves.  Its the nature of the business.  I think the Red Wings' success speaks for itself.  Deals that look like no brainers can be utter failures and deals that look totally ridiculous can turn out to look absolutely brilliant. 


I mean really, who thought trading for Jimmy Carson would be a bad move?  We rid ourselves of underacheiver Joe Murphy, aging malcontent Petr Klima and some nice kid, but destined to be career 4th liner Adam Graves.  We got a hometown kid who was a proven 50 goal scorer and still very young.  The Wings looked set for years to come.Well, we all know how that turned out.   It's soooo easy to make trades and moves on paper.


The two Adam trades were probably the most painful in all my years of watching the Wings.  Graves and Oates. 

#2354822 State of Hockey; High school drama

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 February 2013 - 06:49 PM

I'm pretty sure he got suspended for it.  Or at least for flipping off his coaches.  


I forget who said it but sports don't build character, they reveal it. 

#2354695 Biggest mistake Red Wings have done

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 February 2013 - 01:48 PM

Franzen over Hossa is probably one that Holland would like back. Bringing Sammy back and Coliacovo in does not make any sense to me. Coliacovo is made of glass and is not that great of a D- man to take the chance on. I think he was brought in because Holland shot for the moon on Suter and when he missed there was nobody else left. Sammy on the other hand must be a golfing buddy of Kennys because I can't see any other reason to bring him back.

Letting Stevie go to TB was a huge mistake. Holland has done nothing since Yzerman left anyways.


Sammy and Coliacovo definitely felt like patchwork moves at best after the Suter/Parise madness. 


Some of them have certainly worked out but Holland's penchant for bringing back former wings is almost pathological.  I don't know if it's a lack of imagination or he's just overly fond of former Wings. 


I mean, Jason Williams.  Really?

#2354684 2/13 GDT : St. Louis Blues 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 February 2013 - 01:31 PM

It seems like we play the Blues a couple times a week.  Man these shortened seasons are odd.

#2354029 2/10 GDT : Kings 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 February 2013 - 03:25 PM

agreed. what he said today about the wings being the best team in getting away with interference just reeks of a sour grapes blackhawks fan.


i still cannot believe that nbc lets this guy work national televised games involving the blackhawks either

Especially considering he talks about the Wings "subtle interference" every single game he announces when they're playing. 

#2354009 2/10 GDT : Kings 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 February 2013 - 03:16 PM

I think it's funny how Olczyk is so bad when he doesn't credit the wings, but then Pierre credits Cleary for hard work in the corner and people here are still irritated. Guess they can't win. :)


I'm not one to harp on announcers.  I think a lot of the perceived injustices are just because people are Wings fans and hear what they want to hear.  


But even on broadcasts for other teams, Olczyk is absolutely awful and unprofessional in his love for the Hawks and Pens and disdain for certain teams. 

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#2353967 2/10 GDT : Kings 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 February 2013 - 03:06 PM

That's a heartbreaker for the Kings.  They're struggling as a team and played great this game overall.  


Jimmy just wouldn't let them score. 

#2353958 2/10 GDT : Kings 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 February 2013 - 03:05 PM



Two points stolen by Jimmy Howard with some help from Dats and E.

#2353851 2/10 GDT : Kings 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 February 2013 - 02:35 PM

There it is!


Edzo with the "subtle interference."  He managed to hold out for so long...



Love Doc even making fun of Olczyk for it.

#2353463 Do We Really Need a New Stadium?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 February 2013 - 09:22 PM

JLA is only 30 years old. What exactly is inadequate about it? The problem with this throwaway society is that people always want a new toy. Look at the Silverdome. People were crazy about it; it recently sold for $500,000 or something like that. The Italians could somehow get 2000 years out of a stadium/structure, but we want a new one every few years.  Maybe we should replace Comerica Park, I mean it's more than 10 years old.

I have a lot of fond memories and nostalgia for the Joe, but the place is a dump.  It already wasn't great when I started going there in the mid 80s and certainly hasn't improved with age. 


What inadequate about it?  Virtually everything but the sight lines.  Location, appearance, getting in and out of the building, concessions, bathrooms...

#2352912 Franzen spear on Perron

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 February 2013 - 11:45 AM

Wings' Johan Franzen will face no disciplinary action for spearing Blues' David Perron last night, as NHL said no hearing scheduled.


Which is rightfully so. Perron boarded mule...mule speared perron...mule was kicked out of the game. And thats that.



As much as I didn't like the spear, the major and getting ejected seemed enough.  Unless it caught him right in the nards, Perron seemed to be playing it up. 


Still a crap move by Franzen, and not his first spearing incident.  

#2352896 The Code

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 February 2013 - 10:28 AM

Don't know if you guys caught the PHX/CHI game tonight, but Torres answered the bell and cleared his crappy decision from last year (when he hit Hossa late). Made me think back to the Moore incident. Sad to think a guy in the NHL doesn't know that he needs to take a few punches to atone for his actions and instead ends up with a ruined career. How do you all feel about hockey's unwritten rules?


Moore did answer the bell.  He fought Cooke in the first period of that game.  


Vancouver apparently didn't think it was enough.



 If people want to discuss the code, what they think it means, if it's still relevant, then have at it but we don't really need to rehash the Bertuzzi incident, which has been debated here countless times.  It happened 9 years ago.  I don't think anyone's opinion will be changed now.