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#2343293 1/21: Red Wings 4 at Blue Jackets 3 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 21 January 2013 - 07:59 PM

Shots 7-0 so far, let the whining commence anyway.

It just did.  

 

Now how about we discuss the game for a change?




#2343049 Everyone chill out!

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 21 January 2013 - 01:33 PM

I took it to mean, Franzen is most comfortable (and performs best) when he's not the #1 Guy.

 

Hossa is a known, and was a known at that point. He's one of the most consistent players in the league as far as production is concerned (and I'd also say as far as all-around commitment goes). Like I've said, maybe not a lamp-lighting force in the playoffs - but Franzen is? Put another way: "Hossa is a great regular season player but a playoff no-show" -  take away Franzen's '08 run, and the statement's a pretty good fit for him as well. The guy plays like a big-bodied Brett Hull, minus the stuff that made Hull an elite asset.

 

Hossa >>> Franzen. Kenny got the wrong guy. I know, hindsight blah blah blah. But, again, Hossa was a known. Franzen was still very much a question mark. Has he done anything since the signing to really make you say to yourself, "Thank GOD Kenny picked Franzen." You could say, "He scores 25-30 goals for us every season." So then why get on Hossa's case about disappearing in the playoffs and only being valuable in the regular season?

 

And then there's the contract. That big blessed albatross.

 

And people overstate Hossa's playoff no show, I'm guessing based on the one season he was in Detroit. 

 

He has 97 points in 137 playoff games.  Looking through his playoff performances he's hardly a no-show.   And it's not exactly apples to apples to compare that to Franzen's three great playoff years.  

 

Hopefully for the Wings it was the last two playoffs that were a fluke for Mule and not the 3 before it. 




#2342671 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 January 2013 - 01:14 PM

Boom. The million-dollar question, right here.

It's the $60 million question really. 

 

As I said before, for years the Wings made up for their lack of size and could beat a strong forecheck by superior skill.  But that skill has been declining season after season so their ability to beat it through puck possession and outlet passes has gone away season after season as well.  Lids retiring was certainly the biggest hit to that puck possession style. 

 

So now what exactly is the system?




#2342639 Everyone chill out!

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 January 2013 - 12:13 PM

I am not panicking yet, but I can share some of my concerns about last night's game.

 

1. It looked like an AHL team vs. an NHL team last night - it was that bad.  I don't think I've seen the Wings play a worse 60 minutes of hockey in recent memory.  It wasn't like we got unlucky or couldn't cash in on chances - the Wings had no legitimate scoring chances. 

 

2. I didn't see a single useful pass from our D to the forwards.  Quincey in particular looked bad. 

 

3. Franzen - who I am usually a big fan of - was non-existent.  He looked like he was skating through mud.  Same goes for Sammy.

 

4. Special teams = scary bad.  Is Tom Renney running them? I've lost all faith in Renney's abilities after watching the debacle in Edmonton over the last few years. They've got to fix that. 

 

BUT, that was only game 1, and it was against a clearly amped-up St. Louis team.  I have no doubt it will get better, I just hope it happens quickly. Also, I liked the way Brunner looked, and I liked Tootoo's speed and energy (I wish he made contact with Tarasenko on that hit attempt).  Tootoo, Helm, and Miller would be a fast line.

 

BTW, thoughts on Howard?  I actually didn't think he deserved to get pulled - I assume it was more of a mercy move by Babcock. 

I think it was definitely a mercy move by Babs and in no way a reflection of Jimmy's play.  He was getting shelled out there. 

 

It would've been nice if he had stopped one of the breakaways but I don't really fault him.  All in all he played well considering he got no help.

 

Z and Dats were held without a shot.  Datsyuk was uncharacteristically lazy around his own net a couple times.  And Mule had one shot but was mostly invisible except for his fake tough guy act. 

 

It is only one game, but when fans are wondering how this team will look in the post-Lidstrom era, this is a nightmare first glimpse. 




#2342374 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 January 2013 - 10:44 PM

Red Wings looked like Jackman's penis tonight. 

 

Small, soft, and manhandled by the Blues roster.




#2342352 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 January 2013 - 10:39 PM

oh yeah, what's Franzen gonna do.   :rolleyes:

 

Jackman has been a POS since day one in this league. 




#2342343 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 January 2013 - 10:37 PM

It's the 80's all over again.

 

The mid to late 80s were fun because they had heavyweights like Probert and Kocur, plus plenty of other guys who would drop the gloves and throw big hits.  Plus there was the young superstar Stevie Y. 

 

This team doesn't really have any of those components.  I'm not sure what its identity is really. 




#2342297 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 January 2013 - 10:28 PM

Am I the only one that thought the TooToo attempted hit was pretty bad?  He launched himself through the air like a missle.  If he connected with someone, it might have been ugly.

 

I wouldn't complain too much about him getting a 10 minute misconduct as we really don't know if he got it for that or what might have happened after that (more likely).

 

No, you're not the only one.  He definitely was taking a flying run at a guy.

 

But you still shouldn't get a 10 minute misconduct for a whiff like that then jawing with a guy.




#2342267 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

Only other small silver lining is Smith has looked pretty good tonight.  

 

At the very least he hasn't stood out as awful and he's played somewhat physical.




#2342226 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 January 2013 - 10:10 PM

How do you let 2 guys get behind you on a PK?

 

 

Good game by Jimmy.  Glad they pulled him though.  He doesn't need to get shelled any more than he already has.




#2342144 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 January 2013 - 09:50 PM

ok question - how do I see the swear words?  Just a minor request....all I am seeing is f****** or s***

 

The site now has a curse filter.   

 

It's always been fairly relaxed here regarding profanity but it got so excessive last season the decision was made to enable it.




#2342026 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 January 2013 - 09:27 PM

It's got to be a comforting feeling playing the Wings knowing that when there's a scrum, you really don't have to be afraid of anyone. 




#2342016 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 January 2013 - 09:25 PM

Still remember when everyone here was complaining that Quincey was allowed to leave the first time. 

He's been awful tonight but I'd still take him over Meech or Lebda. 




#2341748 1/19: Red Wings 0 at St. Louis Blues 6

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 January 2013 - 08:30 PM

wow quincey.  That was Lebdariffic.




#2339436 NHL, NHLPA reach tentative agreement on new CBA

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 11 January 2013 - 10:19 PM

OMG, yes, everyone hates the Wings....wahhhh... you mean Pavel slithers and Crosby glides...oh, the humanity...that's clear evidence of the anti Wings agenda!  Breaking news...Ken and Mickey say only nice things about the Wings...Alert the media...Olczyk played for the Blackhawks and is paid by them and he is biased towards them???...You're joking...and he said favorable things about the Penguins?...I'm sure the fact he coached them had nothing to do with it...No one ever says one nice things about the Wings, EVER!!!  They all hate them...*sob*...Next you're going to tell me Don Cherry favors Canadians...Seriously??? 

All snotty sarcasm aside, I think people are often too sensitive about some imagined anti-Wings bias. 

 

However, Enzo is an exception.   With Olczyk it sounds like they picked a fan from the stands as he goes on about the Wings "subtle interference" and pointing out what should've been penalties called against them.  It's one thing to do that when you're the color guy for the Hawks or Pens, but his lack of professionalism on NBC is embarrassing. 

 

And the difference between him and Ken and Mickey is they're doing a local fox sports broadcast.  Several of the guys who do the national games have some ties to other teams but manage to set that aside and be relatively objective on NBC.  Olczyk is awful.