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#2278794 Interference

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 April 2012 - 11:16 AM

My point is simply that if something were to happen behind the play, then everyone would be bitching about the fact that they should have seen it. Other things are going on, and if this happens in 100 games, I bet 98 times it will be caught. It was missed this time, and as long as human beings are reffing the games, things are going to be missed.


Its a complex concept that many people, who are critical of the refs, don't understand because they have never reffed a game in their lives.

There are many important things going on in the game, and you are correct the puck carrier is one of those, but at the same time my point still stands. One ref could have been watching what was going on behind the play while the forward ref could have taken his eye off the play for a second. This kind of thing happens every now and again. Is it excusable? No. Does it happen? Yes. So long as they don't change the way games are reffed, the system will continue to miss things.

Which is why when some of these alternate reffing systems were introduced, I was very encouraged. Having an off ice official that had an elevated platform to watch the games and catch more infractions was a great idea.

Ahh, the "you've never done it so you dont' know like I do" explanation. :rolleyes:

You're making this sound like it was a run of the mill hook that didn't get called. Of course they're going to miss some things like that. Hockey is a fast moving game. Missing something behind the play is a lot more understandable. Missing something this obvious when it happens to the puck carrier is baffling.

This was like it was straight out of Slapshot. A player from the bench reached his stick over and interfered with the puck carrier. That's beer league crap. And everyone saw it except the two referees.

It's shocking that it was missed when it was so obvious. And both the tactic by Clowe and the fact he got away with it makes the NHL reffing look like a joke. Add to that it would've put the Kings on a 5 on 3 powerplay. That's not a little blown call. That's a major screw up by the refs.

This isn't the best clip, but here's the YT of it. The image is overexposed so it's hard to see the stick, but it shows how it happened near center ice to the puck carrier. The ESPN clip is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvBfc2phEV4&feature=player_embedded


#2278790 Interference

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 April 2012 - 11:02 AM

You do understand that the refs aren't just supposed to be watching the puck or the person playing the puck. There are other things going on in the game.

Umm, yes I managed to grasp that complex concept.

You do understand that one of the most important things going on in the game that the two referees should be watching is the guy carrying the puck up ice?

I guess Couture could've sidestepped the whole issue by just tackling Stoll, since apparently both referees were watching those other things going on that were way more important than a Kings player trying to carry the puck into the offensive zone on a power play.


#2278786 Interference

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 April 2012 - 10:55 AM

Spoken like someone who has never put on the stripes before and reffed a game.

Here is a hint, refs have missed worse. No referee is going to see everything.

There's two refs.

It happened to the guy carrying the puck. Neither ref was watching puck carrier?


#2278525 4/5 GDT : Devils 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 08:47 PM

Ericsson showing why they suggest he convert to defense.


#2278514 4/5 GDT : Devils 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 08:41 PM

They should've just knocked the net off from behind it. Apparently that's legal. :P


#2278480 4/5 GDT : Devils 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 08:04 PM

Franzen has looked like Primeau out there tonight. Great looking play until he blows a tire and falls down.


And the refs are definitely gearing up for the playoffs. It's not as bad as pre-lockout but there's an awful lot of hooking going on out there.


#2278467 4/5 GDT : Devils 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 07:54 PM

As much as I think Nyquist deserves to be playing on a better line, him on the 4th at least gives that line a chance of doing something on their shift.


#2278449 4/5 GDT : Devils 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 07:41 PM

Nyquist has a case of Helm hands. :P


#2278447 4/5 GDT : Devils 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 07:40 PM

Homer!

Brodeur too aggressive on that, but how the hell does a two on one happen like that on a pk?

great pass Hudler.


#2278265 4/4 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blues 2 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 01:20 PM

Some of you probably don't care...but some of you might.

The STL Post Dispatch Blues beat writer, Jeremy Ruthreford does a live chat every Thursday at 1pm central at stltoday.com.

I'm sure there will be plenty of talk about last night's game:
http://live.stltoday..._chat_at_1_pm_5

I threw in a question just for you guys. ;)



No.

;)


Here's the question:

Thanks for doing this JR. So, if Backes did to Datsyuk what Franzen did to Backes last night, what would have happened and how many games would Backes be suspended for?


So Jeremy Ruthford can determine factually what would've happened in totally fictional situations?? :scared:

Otherwise it just sounds like you asked a Blues writer to speculate on your leading question (how many game suspended?) and hopefully agree with you.

And even he thinks it should've just been 2 minutes for roughing.


#2278233 4/5 GDT : Devils 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 12:25 PM

Posting this here because I don't think it warrants it's own thread, but the Kings play the first of their two games against San Jose tonight.

I'm a Kings fan too so I'm rooting for them, but keeping the Sharks out of the playoffs would be icing on the cake.


#2278232 4/4 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blues 2 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 12:22 PM

I love Backes' head jerk after Franzen punches him when he's on the ice. It looked like professional wrestling out there.

I was waiting for the ref to turn his back while Franzen went and grabbed a folding chair, or climbed up on the dasher.


#2278231 League takeover of cash-strapped Devils may be inevitable

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 12:20 PM

I don't really follow the Devils but it seems like even when they're very good, they still have trouble filling seats.


#2278182 Babcock heaps praise on the value of Jonathan Ericsson

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 10:30 AM

He's one of the only guys on the team who clears guys from the crease. Our other Dmen are either too small, or play like they're too small.

When White was out there last night he practically got shoved into his own net he was pushed around so easily.


#2278029 4/4 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blues 2 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 04 April 2012 - 09:34 PM

After this game, I hereby transfer all of my Ericsson hate to Kindl...

Ericsson looked -- dare I say -- good out there?

E played 26:34 tonight, leading all defensemen.