haroldsnepsts

Wow.  Wings come away with two points they didn't deserve tonight.  

Ugly but I'll take it.  

Now tomorrow how bout working on letting in less than 4 goals as a team?

Tanguay with a Youngblood-length windup there.

Drapes, Eaves, Helm for the shootout.

Just for the balls it would take to do that.

Really dirty hit, suspension for sure.

You have a lot more faith in this league than I do.

Looks like we're gonna need another 4 goal night to win this one.

(that's not a knock on Howard, as much as the team defense in general)

Wow. I literally joined this site right before tonight's game and I can already see how almost every thread gets turned into a goalie war.

It is unfortunate.  

But welcome to the boards!  There's other stuff here besides goalie wars, I swear.  Stick around!  

How is Osgood playing "very, very well"?

sigh....

Please point out his last shutout?
3 goals on 46 shots is... ok.

Everyone's still in a daze over 400 wins I guess. He still lets in 3 goals before he tightens up.

Because shutouts are somehow the only measure of good play? 3 goals on 46 shots is a .939 sv % by the way, that's better than ok.

The reality is Jimmy has been playing average, at best.  I'm a Howard fan and hope he is the future, but he hasn't been the Jimmy of last season.

Ozzy has been good, with flashes of great.  You only have to look back to his 400th win against Colorado to see that.  

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/12/chris_osgood_outstanding_in_ne.html

Of course there's some grass is always greener, but Ozzy has warranted more starts.  That doesn't mean he should be the starter, but he's definitely shown he's playing well.

Basketball was invented by a Canadian (Naismith) in order to give athletes something to stay in shape during the winter. Naismith studied at Mcgill but the game was first played in America. I personally wouldn't say its American or Canadian but it is more American I guess.


And Eva get informed bud, hockey is not British at all regardless of how you swing it. Hockey is Canadian through and through nice try though.

The most common story I've heard for the invention of hockey is it being started by the British, and ice hockey being originated by British soldiers stationed in Canada, so it's not unfounded to say it's British.  Other stories involve it starting as a Scottish game, others say theres evidence of it being played in Egypt centuries ago.  

The origins of hockey aren't just Canadian.

Probably a good idea, because the once irrational, knee-jerk reactions to Howard's play on nights like this are becoming more grounded in reality lately.

The guy is not playing horrible, but he sure as hell is not playing that well lately. He's had a lot more less than flattering games lately and a lot less great games.

His game log for the last 20 isn't the prettiest site...

http://redwings.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8470657&season=20102011&view=gamelog

9 games with sub-.900 save % over the last 20; some worse than others. He's definitely had some solid efforts in there too, but he hasn't been nearly as consistent this year as he was last year.

And I don't want to read too much into it, but the last minute goals at the end of periods thing is really just strange. Certainly not all were horrible goals on his end to give up, but I have to wonder if there's a focus issue there, not just for him though but for this whole team. 19 minutes a period just isn't enough and I can't help but believe that we're probably leading in giving up last minute goals.

With Osgood playing better this year and putting up some real solid games lately, I think it's getting to be about time to get a more equal rotation going on until one of them can prove that they can get a role going. Osgood hasn't had the chance to do it and Howard simply hasn't been doing it lately. With the injuries piling up again, we can't afford to have inconsistent goaltending. Howard will be fine long-run, he's still a real talented goalie, but Osgood's proving that he's got something left and if he can be the hot hand, we need to get him in more games.

Great post.

It's rare to find a thoughtful, reasoned one regarding goaltenders around here.

Jimmy hasn't been awful, but he certainly hasn't been as good as last season either.  And Ozzy, thankfully, has been a lot better than he was this past season.  I think Ozzy's warranted a few more starts.  At the very least, hopefully it'll put some heat on Jimmy and he'll get his game back together.

Or someone who hasn't had faith in Ozzy for years. As for your 46 shots, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Luckily this isn't a thread about your faith in Ozzy.  So why not celebrate his 400th win or get the f*** out of it?

jesus, is it that hard not to be an ******* in a thread where people are celebrating a career milestone?

I guess all those years of diving really took a toll on his feet.  Sad, sad story.

Nothing wrong with hit - but you have to LOVE how Boston answered!!!

Actually I don't.  I think it's pretty lame actually.

I like Boston, but that wasn't a dirty hit, and Lucic is a big boy.  The team doesn't need to start jumping guys any time he gets hit like he's some delicate flower.

I'm wrong?

This season: 8 GP, 3W, 3L. Sv%: .895, GAA: 2.84

Which is good for like 40th in the league. You can't call this "good".

ooooh a stat checker.


Talk to me when you've watched a few games.  Ozzy's been fine, and arguably as good as Howard has lately.  The Wings need to work on team defense.

Tim Thomas

GAA 1.67
Sv % .949

Height:  5'11"
Weight: 182 lbs.


Jonas Gustavsson

GAA 3.10
Sv % .894

Height 6' 3"
Weight: 192 lbs.


It's almost as if there's other factors than size when it comes to goaltending.

Every time I read the thread title "Jiri Hudler watch" it doesn't make me think of tracking his performance, but more like birdwatching.  Having to sit still for hours on end, intensely focused, hoping you catch a brief glimpse of him doing something good.