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#2248356 Ovechkin hits Michalek

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 23 January 2012 - 06:04 PM

I get your point. I didn't say it was clean, I'm just saying that it wasn't dirty. I don't think Ovie primary point of contact in this case was the head...more of the upper shoulder/chest which lead to his head slamming back. Nor do I believe he was aiming for Michalek's head.

Btw...(this coming from one of his biggest fans/supporters) if you're judging whether or not a player leaves his feet as an indication of clean vs. dirty hit, you'd better start going back and re-classifying a good number of Kronners hits because he often leaves his feet (most cases...just a little :D ). This however does not sway my support and overall like for Kronners game, because I personally look at just more than leaving the feet to gauge whether or not a hit was dirty (e.g. what angle was the hitter coming from, what position was the hittee in, was it open ice or on the boards, did the hittee see the hit coming, were elbows up, was the hitter aiming for hittee's head, etc...).

All in all though, it's professional hockey and non perfect hits are a part of the game. Having the league office dissect every big hit I just see as being a slippery slope to changing the game I (we!) love. I see your point though

I know I've beat this drum before but I think the league needs to bring hitting back to how guys used to do it, without the "exploding up" because that's inevitably going to direct the energy towards a player's head. And I'm including many of Kronwall's hits in this category. Players didn't used to hit this way, but leaping up slowly became acceptable, when it probably should be a charge.

It's not going to take hitting from the game. It's how it used to be done. Stevens and many other big hitters like Vladdy to name another, crushed guys without leaping at all. And Kronner could still Kronwall guys without leaping like that. He catches them with their head down when he sneaks in from the blueline, that's not going to change. It'll just help make sure he hits them in the chest and not the head.

As for Ovie, when a player has as many reckless plays as he has, to me it crosses into being a dirty player.

#2248156 SI: Sidney Crosby to visit spine specialist in Calif.

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 January 2012 - 03:23 PM

Walk a mile in his shoes.

It's tough hearing about what all these guys deal with day to day with concussions. Depression, migraines, light sensitivity, fatigue. Never knowing if tomorrow is going to be a good or bad day.

I doubt it'll get much sympathy here but Pronger's wife was talking about what it's like for him. Having the kids ask him when they can go back to the games and watch him play.

#2248148 SI: Sidney Crosby to visit spine specialist in Calif.

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 January 2012 - 02:13 PM

Maybe they'll take x-rays to find out what people see in him.

They don't need x-rays, all they really need to do is google it.

Rocket Richard
Art Ross
Gold Medal
Stanley Cup

He annoys the s*** out of me, but that's a HOF-worthy resume he's racked up at the age of 24.

If he never returns to the NHL, I have to wonder what he would've accomplished in the next 10 to 15 years of his career. .

#2248109 No suspension for Zetterberg

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 January 2012 - 11:47 AM

Zetterberg is guilty. I don't think there was any malicious intent, but you can't be reckless. Even a little push or bump when a guy is in that position isn't acceptable.

I think Zetterberg deserves a one game suspension. Two at the very most.

I'm glad everyone's OK.

Guilty of what exactly?

Guys put their hands on a player like that all the time as they ride him into the boards. There was no real shove to speak of. Just an unfortunate outcome.

5 and a game was too much punishment already. It'd be a joke if Z got any suspension, while Subban gets a little fine for a dangerous slewfoot on a player headed to the boards.

#2245267 Next Captain?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 January 2012 - 01:32 PM

Who in the Detroit media or on this forum would object to Datsyuk being captain because his English isn't that good?

For that matter, who on the team would be upset? They seem OK with Datsyuk wearing the "A" and he leads well by example. Where are these complaints stemming from?

I don't think anyone is really complaining. But Datsyuk generally seems softspoken and doesn't speak English very well. Not that Zetterberg relishes the spotlight, but I think he's more comfortable with it. I could understand wanting Z to talk to refs over Dats, and lead press conferences.

Saying Z should be captain over him isn't a slight to Datsyuk. The star player on the team doesn't always have to be the one wearing the C. I'd rather someone else have that job and let Pavel keep doing his thing.

#2244909 1/12 GDT : Coyotes 2 at Red Wings 3 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 January 2012 - 09:22 PM

So true, would love to bring in a big fourth line guy to handle guys like him who take runs when there is no push back

I think it's safe to say Babcock would too.

Babcock was asked if he takes pride in winning with a team that annually ranks at the bottom of the NHL in fighting majors (a league-low six this season).

"I wish we were the biggest, toughest, ugliest team in organized hockey," Babcock said, half-jokingly. "That’s not how we’re built, so you coach what you got."

Babcock would prefer to have an enforcer to "keep the flies off."

The team has had Brad May and Aaron Downey in recent years. But general manager Ken Holland doesn’t like to exhaust a roster spot with a tough guy who can’t play.

"I take pride in the fact we’re real disciplined, but I don’t mind (fighting) majors," Babcock said. "I think fans like majors, too. I never seen anyone leave the building when there’s a scrap.


#2244639 Marchand Suspended 5 games

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 January 2012 - 04:53 PM

He is getting minuses because he is flat out wrong, and the video evidence shows it in spades.

Salo wearing a Canucks jersey doesn't make him a scab.

Salo is definitely the biggest exception to the Canucks team's antics, and why I didn't bold his part about all Nucks being assholes.

#2244301 Marchand Suspended 5 games

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 11 January 2012 - 11:54 AM

Then, keep up the "good' work.

Honestly I can understand him saying something like that when it's in response to the veiled threats by a whiny ass coach like Vigneault. Especially considering the whiny divers the Nucks have on their team.

Marchand should care about his reputation with his coach and teammates, and to a certain extent the refs. A more appropriate response would've been that he could care less what the Canucks coach thinks of them.

And if Tortorella gets a 30k fine for ripping on the refs, in the post-Bertuzzi incident NHL, Vigneault should be fined for his comments about Marchand.

#2243513 Marchand Suspended 5 games

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 January 2012 - 11:47 AM

I don't know about a suspension, but a fine should be levied. Salo wasn't coming in hot and had his elbows down. Dirty knee check.


the 5 and game he got was enough and throw a fine on it for good measure. Because it's Marchand and Salo got hurt though, I'm guessing he'll get a couple games. I don't think he was running at Salo's knees, but he bailed out of being hit and got way too low for it to be a good hip check.

Nucks fans were bitching about him not even trying to play the puck, but Salo wasn't either.

#2243273 1/8 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 January 2012 - 10:13 PM

And because everyone here thinks he's awful, that play happened in part because Ericsson went to the net, screened Crawford, and got a decent backhand off, which rebounded to Dats.

#2243153 1/8 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 January 2012 - 09:55 PM

Olczyk is af****** joke.

#2243110 1/8 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 January 2012 - 09:47 PM

They need to take away one of Hudler's hookers every time he passes when he should shoot.

#2243105 1/8 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 January 2012 - 09:45 PM

Franzen is so soft in his own end when fighting for the puck.

#2243087 1/8 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 January 2012 - 09:42 PM

So if Homer's stick stopped the puck from going in and he swept the puck away why would that be a penalty shot? I understand that if he closed his glove.

good question.

he said Homer covered it. Except the puck was loose in the crease when he blew the whistle.

#2243026 1/8 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 January 2012 - 09:25 PM

STFU Olczyk.

I'm sure it was the one hander by Hudler that took him out. :rolleyes:

Isn't Sharp who Kronwall hit?