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#2301437 Anyone else notice the Rangers are drafting a LOT better than us?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 15 May 2012 - 10:28 AM

The Rangers have done a very good job drafting, though it's worth mentioning that a few of the picks on your list are lower than any Detroit has had during that time span.

The Wings earliest picks since 2005 are Kindl who was 19th overall, and admittedly has been a disappointment for that draft slot. Sheahan was 21st overall. Smith who's 21st overall, and McCollum who's 30th overall. 4 first round picks since 2005, and McCollum was the very last pick of the first round.

Kreider, Del Zotto and Staal are all very good players but were also earlier picks than the Wings have had (except Kindl and Kreider both being #19), so I don't really consider those as gems the Wings missed.

Kreider has played 13 games in the NHL and is doing well, but I think it's a bit premature to call him a future all star. But overall, I agree. The Rangers have done a helluva job with their picks.

In terms of the Wings drafting, it gets sketchier and sketchier the deeper you go in the draft and they have just not had early picks. And I think the days of finding late round gems in Europe may be gone, or at least harder to come by. The Wings were at the forefront of that, but other franchises have caught up.

It's why Kindl is such a disappointment to me. He's the best pick they've had in a long time and at 25 years old barely looks NHL ready.

who they drafted 205th overall in 2000

Wow. I never realized Henrik was drafted that late.

With their third pick that year the Wings took Stefan Liv. Talk about drafting the wrong Swedish goaltender. Ouch.

#2301292 Bettman wants to tout the "Original 12" now, haha

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 May 2012 - 02:09 PM

are you sure Gary has so much say about the shape of the game?

I don't think the guy has (and even is supposed to) have much understanding of the game. He's a lawyer and needs management and diplomacy skills to get 30 GMs (and NHLPA, at least sometimes) on the same page and make sure the product is marketable (which, don't get me wrong, is not decided by a couple of die hard fans like us, but masses who watch TV and buy tickets and merchandise). nothing less but also nothing more.

there are people in the NHL offices who understand the game and various aspects surrounding it. Gary is not to replace them but only to make the organization deliver. hard cash that is.

look, my company also exists because it delivers excellent product and knowledge support, but it's (among others) me who provides the service. my boss doesn't understand the finer points of service, but he's excellent at selling it to clients.

He has say about the shape of the game, because a big part of his job is to get 30 GM's to agree on things.

That's my biggest problem with Bettman, that he has little to no understanding, or at least no passion for the game. And yes, he is supposed to have it. When you're in charge of a billion dollar company, you should have a pretty good understanding of what the product is. To further your analogy, I don't expect Bettman to have a great slapshot, or even know how to skate. But I expect him to understand the ins and outs of the game itself, not just the business side. And as importantly, have a love for the game since he more than anyone else is its steward.

#2301119 Franzen has a broken nose ?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 May 2012 - 09:03 PM

Yeah. That spear was pretty severe. Kept him out of the rest of the game..........oh wait.

And if he were out the whole game because of it you'd probably just be whining about what a baby he is.

#2300996 Patrick Kane at it again

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 May 2012 - 01:05 PM

It's stuff like this that's the issue...

"Kane got kicked out of the Kappa Sig party I was at for trying to choke a girl."


Even a rumor of something like that coming out is not good for Kane or his team.

Like I said, he could still go out and drink and have a good time but do it in a way it doesn't reflect poorly on him or the organization that is paying him $6+ mill a year.

#2300990 Patrick Kane at it again

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 May 2012 - 12:57 PM

As to what actually happened that weekend, it'll probably be a lot of rumors and stories with little proof. One thing is for certain though, Kane is a douchebag.

I get that he's 23 and rich and having fun, but there's plenty of ways to go out and drink and have a good time without announcing to the world "I'm Patrick Kane!!" every step of the way.

#2300850 Bettman wants to tout the "Original 12" now, haha

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 May 2012 - 12:42 PM

I think we're all just bored because the Wings have been eliminated and Bettman is a little weasel so he's an easy target.

He's basically just trying to say something about the Blues and their franchise in regards to their sale. Especially since they sold for well less than their estimated value, and $20 million less than what they were purchased for in 2006.

After two years the sale of the team is finally over with, and the Blues have a good team that's finally in a position to make money. In the words of The Replacements, Gary's got a boner.

#2300337 What Lidstrom NEEDS to Do...

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 May 2012 - 11:48 AM

It seems like we go through this every new contract with Lidstrom.

For starters, it's not like Lidstrom sits down in front of Holland and demands what he should paid, pointing out that the fans would riot if he left. All these negotiations happen with Nick's agent.

He's not the absolute best in the league anymore, but he's still a top pairing Dman and probably expects to be compensated as such. Last season Lidstrom still led all D-men on the Wings by playing 23:46 a game. He still plays the most minutes of all d-men on the PP, and still kills penalties. We're not talking about a Chelios type situation where he was a bottom pairing guy. Nick was the #1 d-man and if he returns will almost certainly still function as one of the top two defensemen on the team.

He doesn't owe Holland anything more than what Holand owes him. It's not on Nick's shoulders to give Holland more cap room. That's Holland's job. Lidstrom does his job on the ice. And he's given a hometown discount time and time again compared to what his market value was.

As I've said in threads like this before, it's really easy to give money away "for the good of the team" when it's not yours.

#2299667 #8 Los Angeles Kings vs. #2 St. Louis Blues

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 May 2012 - 06:01 PM


Quick >>>>>> Elliott

#2299454 #8 Los Angeles Kings vs. #2 St. Louis Blues

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 May 2012 - 10:41 AM

he has the most drawn penalties in the league. He has perfected the calculated "boarding" call draw. The guy is a scumbag, as much as I love hitters this guy isn't tough at all and he compromises the sport.

I'm guessing you wanted Maltby out of the league for the way he compromised the sport too.

And how many Kings games have you watched this season?

That's the Sharks you're thinking of about perfecting the boarding call. Couture and a few other guys would get touched from behind and crumple into the boards as they throw their head back.

Like I said, he does flop and it's embarrassing and frustrating. But that's only a small part of his game. He's hardly like Kesler out there. More often he's like Maltby. Agitating guys and perfectly willing to take a punch in the face if he thinks it'll draw a penalty.

You're wrong if you think Brown's not tough at all. He's not really a fighter but unlike Kronwall he will drop the gloves if someone goes after him for a hit they don't like.

This playoffs he's been an absolute beast. He had two shorthanded goals in the same game against the Canucks. Was hitting everything on the ice. Crushed Henrik Sedin. Same way against the Blues. He's been a force out there. Killing penalties, plays the PP.

Love him or hate him, if the Kings go deep he's absolutely a Conn Smythe candidate.

#2298994 Predators bench Radulov and A. Kostitsyn for Game 3 of WCSF

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 03 May 2012 - 04:33 PM

To be honest, I hope he does stay in Nashville. He's talented as all hell, but he hasn't demonstrated anything to suggest he's team player in his entire career.

I hope he does too. He ran to the KHL for more money while under contract with the Preds, then upon his return for the playoffs, he's living it up past curfew the night before a 2nd round playoff game.

Keep up the good work. I bet your teammates really respect you and love playing with you. :thumbup:

#2298990 Will the Wings keep Kyle Quincey?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 03 May 2012 - 04:26 PM

Wow! I never considered this to be a possibility, but I guess it could happen. If that's our defense, we may not make the playoffs, plain and simple. Keeping on topic, I think Quincey stays. We'll offer him a one or two year deal at the same price. With the cap going up and defensemen being overpaid in the market, keeping his salary the same is the equivalent of giving him less. You can't give up a 1st round pick for a guy that's basically a rental. Give him at least a whole season on your team, in your system, then make the determination if he's worth a roster spot next year.

Agreed. Like him or not, I think Quincey is probably here next season.

He certainly wasn't great, but I'm holding out hope he could be a decent middle pairing guy next season. A sort of Stuart replacement.

All I can say is Smith better be in the lineup next year, even if it means putting Kindl on waivers.

#2298267 #4 Nashville Predators vs. #3 Phoenix Coyotes

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 30 April 2012 - 12:51 PM

Phoenix has already gotten as many pucks past Rinne as the Wings did and its all because they work there butts off every shift.

It's so frustrating to watch. But Phoenix does what Detroit wouldn't. They go to the net hard and score the ugly goals you need come playoff time.

Look at where all their goals were scored last night. Minus the empty netter they're all right in the crease/slot area. Same with the first game. they're all scored within like 10 or 15 feet of the net, not wrist shots from along the boards.

The Wings offense depends on a great skill play to score a goal as they maintain puck control along the boards. When that gets shut down, they don't have the ability or willingness to go the middle of the rink, other than on an individual effort by Datsyuk or Zetterberg.

It's not that Rinne is playing that much worse than he did in the first round. It's that the Coyotes have actually put him under fire. He was giving up juicy rebounds against the Wings but there were three Nashville players there to clear the puck before any Wings player was even close.

#2297939 Report: Luongo officially requests trade out of Vancouver

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 28 April 2012 - 11:20 PM

Just about as douchey as this:


That one I remember.

And Nucks fans wonder why other fans love seeing Vancouver fail.

Way to focus on the right things Canucks. Stay classy.

#2297900 #4 Nashville Predators vs. #3 Phoenix Coyotes

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 28 April 2012 - 06:41 PM

Nope it just means they play in the middle of the ice more than us. They cycle and then get the puck to the middle...we passed it around the outside too much.

Unfortunately, this.

The way the Wings play sometimes, I don't think they even have to zamboni the middle part of the offensive zone.

#2297542 Johan Franzen wants to 'have more fun'

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 27 April 2012 - 10:36 AM

Franzen managing to say the absolute wrong thing for how he's viewed here.

Winning is fun. Scoring goals is fun. Try working harder every day, every game, every shift, and you'll probably win more games and score more goals and have more fun.