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#2276171 3/30 GDT : Predators 4 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 31 March 2012 - 11:14 AM

The Wings are 21st in PP goals and 22nd in the league on the PK. Yet they still manage to be 5th overall in Goals per Game and 7th overall in Goals Against.

Add to that to their home and away record, and everything about this team is a split personality.

For a team this good to have such a crappy PP and PK seems like a lack of discipline, commitment to the system, and willingness to compete and sacrifice. I guess we'll see if they find that switch come playoff time.

#2275632 this team is soft

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 30 March 2012 - 12:00 PM

I too am sick of this thread (among the others you mentioned) popping up constantly. BUT worse than "wading" through topics one can easily just ignore to begin with, letting it slide down the discussion board out of sight, is a thread on the board being bogged down (and bumped) with complaints about complaining, in this case over a dozen replies arguing the thread not the topic. :P Talk about wading through the noise...

I don't think the Wings lose because they are soft, unless you count players like Franzen being soft in the heart or players like White being soft in the head (when not with Lidstrom). However, the Wings do lack that "steadying hand" when the rough stuff does start, something you don't really notice 90% of the games because it doesn't come to it. Because its rare, I understand the argument of Holland and Babcock, not wanting to give up a roster spot to someone useless on the ice. Unfortunately, "useless on the ice" pretty much sums up Emmerton and the 4th line. If we aren't going to play them more than 5 minutes a night, how much worse could a guy that keeps the flies off be?

Grinding, contributing 4th liner > Fighter who can't contribute >> Emmerton who can't contribute or grind

Exactly. It is a much rehashed topic, but if people don't like it, then they shouldn't post in it and they can watch it disappear down the list of threads on the page.

And honestly if the Wings were a team that played a chippy game like Boston or fought as much as the Rangers, I highly doubt there would be threads about the Wings shouldn't goon it up as much. People love the Wings, so they love the current incarnation, which is one that isn't very physical and doesn't fight much. But if they were a team that beat the snot out of other players, I don't think people here would be clucking their tongues in disapproval.

Overall I wouldn't say they're a soft team, but there's definitely guys who play soft for their size, and the Wings could definitely use their physical play. (I'm looking at you Franzen, Kindl, and Bertuzzi)

#2275366 Big Game Tonight

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 29 March 2012 - 09:09 AM

I predict a loser point will be involved, allowing them both to hold/gain ground.

#2275282 3/28 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 28 March 2012 - 11:24 PM


Even if you can't see it, Quincey is a much better than Kindl. He's no Lidstrom, but Quincey can handle big minutes, play on the PP and PK. Kindl is having trouble distinguishing himself enough to hang on to the 6th Dman spot.

And I think your caps lock is stuck.

#2275272 Wings or Blues

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 28 March 2012 - 10:58 PM

It depends on which Red Wings team shows up.

#2273948 Brendan Smith sent back to Grand Rapids

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 25 March 2012 - 07:53 PM

Smith brings more to the table right now... but by no means does he make our defense better than with Kindl and E. He does have better speed which can make up for mistakes, but he needs to get better. While I rather see him do it now by playing in Detroit, it does make more sense to leave him in the minors next year and get Suter.

I'd be extremely disappointed if Smith spent next season in the minors. Even if they picked up someone like Suter, they should get rid of Kindl and bring Smith up. Kindl's not awful, but he certainly hasn't distinguished himself. And Q and Smith provide better versions of what Kindl is supposed to bring.

#2271410 Crosby

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 18 March 2012 - 04:24 PM

As much as I dislike the kid's attitude and the level of media attention he receives, there is no way that I can deny Crosby's status as the elite talent of his generation. Not taking anything away from Datsyuk, Malkin, Ovechkin, Stamkos, Giroux, or any of the other names that have been brought up, but Sid, like other generational talents, just seems to have an extra gear that others don't have. Aside from the personality issues that have been well discussed, he doesn't really have any weaknesses in his game anymore. Let's not forget, before his concussion last season, he was on pace to break 60 goals and 130 points, plus he has improved significantly on face-offs and defense (not to Datsyuk's level, but still better than he was a couple years ago), so IMO he is the best player in the game right now when healthy.


He has a douchiness that seems to come from his every pore while playing on the ice, but that doesn't mean he's not incredibly talented. And dedicated. Unlike Ovechkin, Crosby keeps working on areas of his game and improving every year. And he's only 24.

The only real question is his noggin. As much as I want someone to punch his fat whiny face when I watch him play, as a hockey fan it'd be a shame if we didn't get to see what he was capable of in a full career.

#2271249 3/17 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Sharks 3 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 18 March 2012 - 12:02 AM

f*** san jose.

#2271162 3/17 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Sharks 3 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 17 March 2012 - 11:08 PM

Or, just one body, and you know which one.


All these years people have been saying that the Wings will fall when Yzerman retires, when Fedorov leaves, etc. When Lids retires they may just be right.

Even when Lidstrom isnt playing superhuman, he's still a better Dman than 90% of the league.

Kings tied 1-1 with the Preds. Come on Kings. please score some goals for a change.

#2271114 3/17 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Sharks 3 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 17 March 2012 - 10:38 PM

I like how the play by play guy points out Z grabbing a guys stick but fails to mention how it's because it was up at his throat.

#2270230 Realignment dropped for now

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 March 2012 - 04:44 PM

- league is getting money from tv, ads, teams, etc,
- teams are getting there fair share of paid money through contracts with league, selling merchandise, etc.
- players are getting their fair share of paid money through contract they signed with team;

where on this picture is a void that PA should fill in? there isn't one.

are these multimillionaire professional player need a protection? from whom? from gms?! that's funny, as i said. do anybody think that datsyuk/lidstrom/etc/etc need PA 'protection' to get his fair share? I don't think so.

I'd blame PA solely if there is another lockout. not battman, not gms, but PA.

The PA is the reason that is happening.

I mean this seriously and not as a smartass but if you're not familiar you should look into the history of the PA and how players were treated by the owners before its existence. Even if you still disagree, it's some really interesting stories and time in NHL history.

No, but now I want a Holland jersey.

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#2270223 Realignment dropped for now

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 March 2012 - 04:07 PM

I thought PA stands for PLAYER Association.
Why on earth PLAYER Association would care about ticket prices?!

I'm guessing they don't.

But they should (and probably do) care about getting their fare share of the millions of dollars people pay to see them play. No one walks around with Holland, Burke, or Bettman on the back of their jersey.

#2270186 Realignment dropped for now

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 March 2012 - 03:08 PM

At the same time, I actually agree with what Bettman had to say about that. The PA was never previously involved in any other schedule change or realignment (according to Bettman), why should they be now? Because CBA 'negotiations' are coming up. Case in point, posturing.

I don't agree with his logic. because they hadn't been in the past that means they shouldn't now?

The league never had a salary cap before either.

I think it would've gone a long way to set a better tone had they involved the NHLPA. Instead Bettman basically came off saying "we don't even need to ask them at all." The players are the talent. The league could at least pretend to treat them with respect on occasion.

#2270158 Realignment dropped for now

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 March 2012 - 02:19 PM

as I said in the other thread, if they lose a season or even half a season, Bettman needs to be canned. It would be the third time the league has lost games under his reign in less than 20 years.

And even back in 94 his big battle was about the cap. After basically breaking the union and getting a cap, they damn well better be able to work this out without a lockout. I know it's not all his fault but Bettman sets a very combative tone publicly that everyone gets their hackles up before negotiations even begin.

#2270003 3/13 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Kings 5

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 March 2012 - 01:12 AM

Kings are my second favorite team so I watch these games somewhat conflicted. I don't want the Wings to lose, but the Kings sure can use the points.

General thoughts:

Kopitar is a badass. He's a very Zetterberg like player. I'd love for the Wings to ****** him up somehow.
Brown has a lot of great qualities but tonight is a perfect example of the mixed feelings I had about the talk of him going to the Wings. The diving is a friggin embarrassment. He's the biggest diver on the Kings.

As for the Wings, ugh. The PP and PK is going to kill this team in the postseason unless they figure it out in a hurry.

Glad Q is ok after going headfirst into the boards like that. It looked pretty nasty.