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#2304222 Nick Lidstrom retires after 20 seasons

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 31 May 2012 - 10:18 AM

The tank is definitely not empty Nick, it just started to move down a tiny notch from "god" closer to "mortal."

#2304219 Nick Lidstrom retires after 20 seasons

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 31 May 2012 - 10:15 AM

I'm confused. When does he get to the part where he says he's pleased to announce they've signed Suter, Weber, Doan and Parise and he's really looking forward to playing alongside them next season?

#2303850 Nick Lidstrom retires after 20 seasons

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 30 May 2012 - 03:07 PM

Sad? hell no. I have 20 years of great memories and 4 cups because of nick. he is one of the best ever to play the game. It is time to say THANK YOU! as loud as we can, and look forward to the next chapter. can we get a waiver and hang Nick's jersey in the HOF on Friday?

Thanks Nick for all the time, effort and memories!

Great post.

I've been watching the Wings long enough to remember when #5 was Darren Veitch, but it's still going to be so strange not to see Lidstrom on the Wings blueline.

Whenever some great player comes charging into the Wing's zone, there won't be any sigh of relief when you realize Lidstrom is the defenseman they have to get past.

#2303832 Nick Lidstrom retires after 20 seasons

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 30 May 2012 - 02:57 PM

Well s***. The end of an era for sure.

Now I really wish Holland had made a big run at it this year, even if it meant mortgaging the future a bit.

#2303771 Patrick Kane at it again

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 30 May 2012 - 01:16 PM

Yeah, because players in the 70s never used to get drunk and hit on women. And everyone had camera-phones in those days too, they just chose to respect the privacy of sports stars in that era :rolleyes:

Privacy of sports stars?

The guy couldn't have drawn more attention to himself short of holding a press conference where people watch him get hammered.

It's not like someone took pictures from a party in Kane's backyard. He went to the University of Wisconsin (no idea why you go to Wisconsin to celebrate Cinco de Mayo) with custom made t-shirts for the event and made a total ass of himself.

When someone pays you $6 mill a year and you're one of the faces of the franchise, like it or not you have to know that the things you do in your personal life will reflect on the organization. It's not like he needs to be going to church 5 days a week. Just don't make such a drunken spectacle of yourself. People in their 20s may not disapprove, but I bet a lot of hockey mom's would think twice about buying their kid a Kane jersey if he keeps this up.

#2303454 Hasek wants to play in the NHL again

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 27 May 2012 - 03:09 PM

Good luck on your comeback Dom, just not with Detroit.

#2302868 Wings look into Jonas Holøs?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 23 May 2012 - 05:04 PM

Considering Ericsson has only played three full seasons, no. Neither I nor anyone else remembers that. :)

Kindl wasn't really a rookie either. He played 48 games in 10-11. He's improved a bit, and will almost certainly improve further in the next few years. But he doesn't look like he'll ever be anything special. I don't think he's a whipping boy yet, just pretty irrelevant.

Agreed. Kindl has now played 106 games in the NHL.

And Ericsson is a converted defenseman taken dead last in the draft. Taken 19th overall, I think Kindl is the highest pick the Wings have had since drafting Marty Lapointe. I had higher hopes for him but he couldn't even hold a spot over Commie and didn't see a lick of ice time in the playoffs. And he's not exactly that young either. People can bag on Quincey for how he plays, but he's only a year older than Kindl. He's just been playing big minutes for several seasons. Kindl is also an inch taller and 10 lbs heavier than Q, but you'd never know it from how he plays.

There's still hope he'll turn into something, but when the Wings picked him in 2005, I'm guessing they were hoping they'd have an NHL ready defenseman by now.

#2302867 #8 Los Angeles Kings vs. #3 Phoenix Coyotes

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 23 May 2012 - 04:54 PM

Brown will get what's coming to him, just like Turtle did.

A Stanley Cup?

I hope so.

#2302734 #8 Los Angeles Kings vs. #3 Phoenix Coyotes

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 23 May 2012 - 12:54 AM

Series winning goal and handshake line.

I love Richards pushing Brown and telling him to keep going when Hanzal is yapping at him.

#2302732 #8 Los Angeles Kings vs. #3 Phoenix Coyotes

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 23 May 2012 - 12:43 AM

Smith thinks Brown should be suspended forever for his hit.

“If Raffi Torres gets 25 games for his hit during the play then this guy (Brown) ought to be done forever,” Smith said.


Smith has the composure and maturity of a teenage girl.

#2302268 LA Kings as a model?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 May 2012 - 08:02 PM

I can't disagree more with the posters saying that Abby is better than Stoll (or Stall as I guess we're calling him here) I would love to have Stoll as a Wing
As for modeling after the Kings, yea that's a bit silly in my opinion. Aren't we still a team that other teams model themselves after? (I'm lookin at you SJS). When the Kings play better than us for a long time then maaaybe look at trying out their system.
That said, the Kings show up for every game and have a lot of heart...wouldn't mind having guys that looked like they cared a little more.

AGreed. I didn't respond to that post because I wasn't even sure the guy was thinking of the right player.

This year in LA everyone struggled offensively, but I think he's still a 40 point guy. That's something Abby hasn't managed yet.

He's good in the faceoff circle, is their #1 forward on the PK this postseason. Can play the power play. Hits. Stoll was the second line center until they brought in Richards last season.

Here's a pretty good piece on him from ESPN


Maybe one day Abby will develop into that kind of player, but right now there's no way he's better than Stoll.

#2301967 #8 Los Angeles Kings vs. #3 Phoenix Coyotes

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 17 May 2012 - 11:59 PM

YAYYY DOUCHEY LA FANS! Lets boo the goalie when his skate blade comes lose!

You don't see crap like that in Detroit. Maybe they should stick to basketball out there lol

his skate blade came loose? I've only seen that happen once during a game when Kronwall's blade fell off.

Looked to me more like Smith was pretending to have an issue to give his team a rest and try and change momentum. It's not the first time he's done it.

Either way, fans in Detroit would be booing just as loud if they thought the goalie was faking something to delay the game.

#2301966 #8 Los Angeles Kings vs. #3 Phoenix Coyotes

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 17 May 2012 - 11:45 PM

huge dive by brown

If you're talking about the embellishment on the crosscheck, honestly that's the kind of Maltby stuff I can live with. Or at least don't hate as much as his flat out dives.

He threw a clean hard hit on Ekman-Larsson, who wasn't happy about it so he crosschecks Brown. Brown went down awful easy for sure. But don't be such a wuss about getting hit and it's not a problem.

I love Doan complaining about his penalty. He's bodyslammed three different players this series. Apparently he doesn't like it when he's on the other end of a take down. I'd probably like Doan if he were on the Wings in the same way I'd take Pronger. But man is Doan a dirty player.

#2301818 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 17 May 2012 - 12:24 PM

The only people Uncle Gary loves screwing more than the fans is it's employees.


He sometimes acts as if fans and players are an inconvenience to running a hockey league.

#2301799 2012 Lockout Watch

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 17 May 2012 - 10:44 AM

what else does the league want? The got their "parity" throughout the league, revenue is up, they got the Cap in place, they got their "KID" the Cup (maybe one wasn't enough and they need changes to make sure he gets every two out of three?) I don't know what else the league would want from the players. If the NHL suffer another lockout or lose of an entire season, it is over. It cannot survive another whole, half or any part of the season being cancelled... I cannot see why Bettman still has his job, half a season lost in 1994-95, entire 2005 season lost AND now this possibility!?!? Why does this fool still have a job? He has done hardly anything GOOD for the NHL and tons bad!

He still has a job because he was pretty much brought in to implement a cap. He lost us a season and a half of hockey, but he got the owners what they wanted.

If there's another lockout, that pretty much solidifies it for me that Bettman needs to go and has done more damage than good to the NHL.

The biggest sticking point in the last CBA negotiation was the hard Salary Cap. Since that was the biggest thing the players were against, and the owners got the hard cap anyway, there's always the chance that this CBA negotiation will go smoothly. I could see the main sticking point this go-round being the players share of the revenue, though.

The article brings up a good point, though. Last time around, there was heated rhetoric and blame gaming from both sides for months leading up to the cancellation of the existing CBA. Whereas there hasn't been anything that I've seen this time. Hopefully that means that both sides realize another lockout would be catastrophic to the league and the players alike.

Get this thing done in a timely manner, please. The last thing we need is another round of millionaires vs. billionaires fighting a very public war over money.

In theory now that they have the cap, it shouldn't be nearly as contentious. But Bettman has the diplomacy skills of a sledgehammer. He's already used the realignment proposal to make the NHLPA look bad and set a very divisive tone, so it's hard for me to be hopeful.

My prediction is that now that they have the cap, they're going to try and notch down the percentages to make it even more profitable for the owners.

To me it was still a massive concession for the players to have their salaries tied to league revenues. They have zero control over increasing revenue for the NHL. They don't market the game. They don't choose the cities that get franchises. They're the talent.

My understanding is that on top of that they have a portion of their paycheck's put in a slush fund all year, then it's given back to them at the end if the league meets it's projections. Otherwise it goes to the league.

The owners have a pretty sweet deal with the cap, and we've still seen that some of them can't help themselves from giving awful contracts to players. In terms of profitability of the league and franchises, player salaries aren't the biggest factor anymore.