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#2198800 Ranking NHL Broadcasters

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 16 July 2011 - 10:53 AM

I don't know what article you guys keep talking about. That link just took me to some s***ty blog.

#2198302 Apparently, we were finalists for Vokoun?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 13 July 2011 - 11:48 AM

That sounds like wanting to be declared the starter outright at the beginning of the season. He got that with the Capitals. He wouldn't have gotten it with the Wings.

Vokoun's ultimate choice makes it pretty clear what he wanted. Why would Boudreau have immediately announced him as the starter otherwise? He went to a contender cheap. He wanted the starting gig. He would go to a team that would give it to him outright over a team that would make him compete for it.

Why do you have any doubt whatsoever that Kenny DID tell him that? Why are you assuming that Kenny just told him "No"? That would be pretty damned stupid of Kenny, and Kenny isn't stupid.

Vokoun's two choices were as follows:

1) Sign with Washington and be the guaranteed starter.
2) Sign with Detroit and compete with Howard for the starting job, and risk being relegated to backup status.

Which option do you think was more attractive to him?

Right. It may sound like that, but these are all assumptions on your part, so I don't see why you go questioning someone's reading abilities or acting like Vokoun wanted a handout when nothing in the article confirms what you're saying. It's all just speculation.

Boudreau could just as well be announcing Vokoun as starter for publicity reasons after his team s*** the bed in the playoffs once again. With Vokoun they've got a proven goaltender in net (not much playoff experience but that's hardly his fault). That would make me happy if I were a Caps fan, knowing now we've got a promising young goaltender and a solid experienced one.

If a goalie as good as Vokoun takes a discount that big, it wouldn't be surprising he would want some guarantee in Washington of the starting gig, but who knows what the potential offer was to play in Detroit. Holland never even commented specifically on Vokoun.

And to be clear, I'm not assuming Holland just told him no. I don't know what went on at all in any of the negotiations, other than Vokoun signed with the capitals.

Again--if Holland could have gotten him, he would have. Vokoun had a choice between a guaranteed starting position and a starting position he'd need to compete for. I think that was an easy choice for him.

Because Holland can somehow get every single player he wants?

Again, you're making the assumption that Vokoun somehow ruled out signing with the Wings simply because he would not be guaranteed the starting job without having to compete for it. Unless there's some article out there I haven't seen, nothing Holland or Vokoun has said confirms that. It's all just speculation and quite likely that there were other factors involved in his decision, yet you're latching onto this one detail like there has to be some reason that makes Vokoun look bad, just because he didn't sign with Detroit.

Ultimately, who cares? He signed with Washington. I don't see why we need to invent a reason why he didn't play in Detroit.

#2198186 Apparently, we were finalists for Vokoun?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 July 2011 - 05:30 PM

It appears you didn't read the article. Vokoun's was interested in being given the position of starting goaltender. He was not interested in competing for the position. Notice that Boudreau has already announced that Vokoun will be the starting goalie for the Caps. The Caps were willing to give him that guarantee. The Wings were not, and rightfully so.

Where does it say that? I read the article, and the only part that comes close to saying that is the conjecture made by Wyshynski about how Vokoun will be starting in Washington without having played a game for them. Nothing Holland said indicates anything about Vokoun, or any goalie, wanting to be given the starting job.

"Some of the goalies we talked to didn't want to be a backup," general manager Ken Holland said. "They want to go to other teams and have a shot at being No. 1 or at playing a lot more games."

That sounds like wanting to compete for the #1 job, which I can completely understand with Vokoun. He very well could've won the job with the Wings.

And it's not like Detroit doesn't have a history of bringing in other goalies to compete for the job when the opportunity is there.

#2197279 Salei to Play in Russia..

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 July 2011 - 08:44 AM

Lilja only fell because he was tied up with Souray. Souray was the one who lost his balance after getting hit in the head.

I always assumed that GMR has his tongue firmly planted in cheek when he talks about Lilja's fighting prowess.

If you guys are seriously saying he won that fight or tuned up Souray, or that Lilja was in any way a good fighter, it just shows how long it's been since the Wings have had someone who can actually fight.

#2197228 Salei to Play in Russia..

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 July 2011 - 11:30 PM

That's not what Sheldon Souray's face would tell you after Lilja dropped him on his candy ass.


Like most Lilja fights, it ended when he lost his balance and fell down after taking several punches to the head.

As I've said before, much respect for him trying to learn to fight at the NHL level, but he the best he ever did in a fight was not get his ass handed to him.

#2195402 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 02 July 2011 - 04:23 PM

Ericsson 3.25/yr
Gagne 3.5/yr

something is wrong with this

ok, St Louis got Oshie for 2.35 a year, Oshie is young and plays a bigger role for the Blues and is more NHL proven

You shouldn't really compare a defenseman's contract to forwards. Different roles, different teams, different market value.

Ericsson was overpayment that hopefully he may earn one day soon, but there's plenty of examples of overpayment when you look at the UFA's that are defenseman.

#2195101 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 02 July 2011 - 10:31 AM

His exact words were, "if we don't find another top 4 defenseman, Ericsson will fill that role".

Read the article again. It's a definite possibility.


As in "If we don't find another top 4 defenseman, Ericsson will fill that role..." AS A TOP FOUR DEFENSEMAN.

AS IN #4. That does not equal "Ericsson will fill Rafalski's role."

He is not saying Ericsson will fill Rafalski's role. He doesn't even come close to saying that. You guys are making a massive assumption.

#2194868 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 01 July 2011 - 10:22 PM

Uh-oh, guys. Straight from the horse's mouth: http://www.mlive.com..._at_chance.html

Babcock: "If hes (Commodore) paired with (young) Jakub Kindl, hell help him."

That makes...


Could our worst nightmare be true? Was Ericsson, indeed, Rafalski's replacement?

Looks more like Kronwall replaced him to me.

Exactly. In his own post he has Kronwall in the #2 spot.

Talk about trying to stir s*** up. :rolleyes:

#2194851 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 01 July 2011 - 10:10 PM

Lol I only wish he did

Stuart also

Stuart is a better overall D-man, but Ericsson has a better first pass than Stuart.

Kindl is better at moving the puck than Ericsson too.

No he isn't.

#2194658 Wings sign D Mike Commodore to 1-year, $1m contract

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 01 July 2011 - 06:03 PM

Because hes a drunk, piss poor defensively, got bought out by a bottom feeder team, has had attitude problems in the past, and to top it all off hes a day walking ginger.

Seriously though, this is Jason Williams 2.0, like it or not, and unless Holland makes a big move before training camp, the team as it stands today has 0 chance at the cup. Besides, if Detroit signs a #2-3 defenseman or trades for one that leaves Detroit with 7 dmen, not including Smith or Janik who both deserved a shot making the line up this year.

Why exactly does Janik deserve a shot? He's a known quantity to the Wings and is basically a career AHL'er. Short of making some magical transformation as a 30 year old, if Janik is in the lineup it probably means the Wings defensive corps is in a seriously bad way.

commodore is a huge upgrade over salei.


For the hundredth time, he is not a Rafalski replacement. He is a Salei replacement and should be an upgrade.

#2194642 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 01 July 2011 - 05:48 PM

But that was my point. Crappy defensemen are a dime a dozen and I was told I was wrong. That there was no one else out there in the league who could do what Ericsson does for cheaper.

Commodore doesn't prove your point. He's a defensive defenseman taking the 6th/7th spot. Like it or not, with Rafalski gone, Ericsson is one of the Wings best puck moving defenseman behind Lids and Kronwall.

#2193852 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 01 July 2011 - 12:46 PM

so we could of had torres for a bit more than miller?


meh. I don't think I'd want a guy like Torres on the Wings.

Though it'll be interesting to see if Canucks fans are so quick to defend his hits when he's headhunting their players.

#2193832 Wings re-sign Ericsson to 3-year, $9.75m contract

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 01 July 2011 - 12:40 PM

Maybe he could have. My point is we should have let another team overpay for him, we can find some lesser known defenseman who would be just as good for half the price.


#2190144 10 Greatest Wings Draft Picks in History?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 26 June 2011 - 06:40 PM

Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Fedorov and Zetterberg, because they were all drafted in later rounds.

And of course Yan Golubovsky should be there as well. First round pick in 1994. :hehe:

I love Stevie, but Lidstrom has to be #1 for sure.

Getting one of the best defenseman in the history of the game, arguably second all time, in the third round at #53?! Nothing tops that. Especially when you consider the Wings really wanted Lafontaine in the draft and chose Yzerman when they Islanders took him.

#2188764 Nick Lidstrom wins Norris trophy #7

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 24 June 2011 - 10:40 AM

He wasn't even the most valuable player on his line.

Yes he was.

I think Perry is a ******, but he's a talented player and was on fire the second half of the season, which I'm sure weighs heavily with voters.

He played every game this season, over 22 minutes a night, scored 50 goals and had 98 points. In the push to make the playoffs he had 19 goals in the final 16 games. Led the league in third period goals and road goals. That's not a most valuable player to his team?

I'm not saying he necessarily deserved the Hart, but he was absolutely the most valuable player on the Ducks this season and a large part of the reason they made the postseason.