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#2218806 This team screams for a trade

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 26 October 2011 - 07:11 PM

Lol, -4, am I not kissing the Red Wings ass enough for you guys? I remember when this forum used to be good and someone could have a strong opinion. Now that's living in the past.

Me too. Those were the days before the thought police started patrolling.*

The only players acceptable to rip on are Ericsson and sometimes Hudler. Osgood used to be fair game too but sadly he retired.

I understand that no one wants a forum of mindfly's around here, but there's still constructive talk to be had when the team doesn't play well, even if it's critical. A forum full of "Holland is great! Babcock is great! The Wings are great! I'm sure it'll get better!" doesn't interest me much.


I don't think a trade is necessarily a solution, but Babs was obviously pissed by the players lack of effort last night. We're not imagining it. The first couple seasons Babcock had guys working hard and doing all the little things right. Maybe the novelty of his message is wearing off. I certainly wouldn't want to get rid of a coach as great as Babs and am not suggesting that, but complacency has been a repeating theme with this team the last couple seasons. Franzen just about openly says he gets bored with the regular season.

EDIT: and yes I know the team is 5-2. I'm not saying the Wings are doomed. It's obviously early in the season and on paper they're off to a great start. But doesn't "lack of effort" and phrases like it from the coach and players sound really familiar from last season? More than thinking it's a fatal flaw, it's a worry from me that things haven't changed.



*I'm not referring to the moderators



#2218743 Ian White appreciation thread

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 26 October 2011 - 02:12 PM

What about next year?


Quiet you! Lidstrom will play forever! :ph34r:


#2218692 Ian White appreciation thread

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 26 October 2011 - 11:17 AM

Great signing. When Schneider left, Holland had to scramble and managed to bring in Rafalski, which was a big plus for the team. Now with Raf's surprise retirement, he manages to bring in White.


#2218126 Pronger injured after high-stick

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 25 October 2011 - 08:31 AM

Moore has kept the whole thing going. Several years ago, he was offered a contract and turned it down. He could be playing right now, but he chooses to be a whine ass about the whole thing. He's in it for the money.

False. Burke offered him a minor league contract when he wasn't even medically cleared to play, either just to taunt Moore or for the press and positioning for a lawsuit, so people will only remember "moore turned down a contract." Evidently it worked.

Back on topic regarding Pronger, I hate the guy, but really just when the Wings are playing him. He got absolutely schooled a few nights ago when someone scored and I laughed out loud. He's basically a Chris Chelios. Talented player who has had several instances where he goes way over the line. Or for those who remember, he's like the player Harold Snepsts but with 10 times the talent. But I don't want him to lose an eyeball. The league is better with him in it. It needs villians and Pronger is a good one and a good player.


#2218047 Pronger injured after high-stick

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 24 October 2011 - 09:26 PM

So stepping on someone with your skate isn't an attempt to seriously injure someone?

Has he ended anyone's career? no.

Has Bertuzzi? yes.

I think I've said several times Pronger plays dirty. As for the skate stomp, honestly I think Bobby Ryan's was worse than Pronger's. Ryan clearly stomps down with the blade and Pronger mostly grinds his boot. I think it was dirty and suspendable, but in that moment I don't think he was attempting to seriously injure someone, no. I think he lost his cool. the Homer elbow was much more calculated than the stomp.

Either way that still doesn't mean I enjoy him losing an eye.



I never saw a stick hit him in the eye. The video does not support that that I can tell. His left hand grabs the right side of his head. There is NOTHING thus far to indicate a serious injury and the need to start a prayer vigil. I have also stated I would retract my former comment if the need arose. Please get off my back or I'll cancel your membership to my website! :P

In my earlier post I cited McKenzie's twitter which says he's seeing an eye specialist but there's so much swelling they can't evaluate it. So it's likely either an eye injury or a very close call.

Like I said, I guess I just gave Wings fans more credit than they deserve. Seeing a player take a stick to the face, knowing there's a potential eye injury goes beyond how I feel about that player and his rep.


#2218032 Pronger injured after high-stick

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 24 October 2011 - 09:08 PM

One person made a comment to this affect, but I don't believe anyone else here said they were happy he was hurt, or that they hoped he lost an eye, or that his career was over. Your post would have been better suited if everyone had. He goes in the same pile for me as Corey Perry, Matt Cooke, and other douchebags, but that doesn't mean I find joy in his obvious pain, and I hope I can speak for others in that as well.

There's no need for any moralizing.

So you're lecturing the lecturer?

No one openly said they were happy, but it's a surprisingly callous response from hockey fans when a player takes a stick to the eye. Like saying he should use ice and motrin.

At the risk of moralizing, don't expect better from any other team's fans when one of our players gets hurt.


#2218028 Pronger injured after high-stick

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 24 October 2011 - 09:00 PM

I have nothing against Pronger and I hope he can still see with both of his eyes.

Exactly.

I guess I gave Wings fans too much credit. Pronger has been a major rival over the years, but from the replay and from McKenzie's twitter update, it seems pretty likely he either had an injury to his eye or a very close call. It sucks to see any player suffer an injury like that during a game.

jeebus people. It's not like Pronger has ended anyone's career like Bertuzzi.


#2218016 Pronger injured after high-stick

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 24 October 2011 - 08:27 PM

I don't wish him ill and I'm not thrilled he got hit with a puck, but it didn't hit him in the face, so there's no danger of a broken jaw or orbital bone, so he'll be okay. It also didn't sound like he was "screaming" getting off the ice, even though the announcer says so. All I heard was a few "ah, ah, ah"s. He's fine. I'll bet money on it. Maybe a few stitches, but I don't think there's even any chance of concussion on that one, hence pretty much a lack of sympathy other than an "Ouch, that had to hurt" kind of thing.

did you watch the clip?

He took a stick to the face, so I'm not sure what you're referring to. The puck wasn't involved. And you can hear the yelling.

I think Pronger is a player who goes over the line (though I'd take him on the Wings), but that doesn't mean I'm happy when he takes a stick to the face.


#2218012 Pronger injured after high-stick

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 24 October 2011 - 08:12 PM

Stay classy Wings fans. :thumbdown:

He dropped like a ton of bricks and you can hear him screaming as he goes into the dressing room holding his face. Clearly this was more than a little cut.


According to Bob McKenzie he's seeing an eye specialist but there's too much swelling to know anything.


#2217764 10/22 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Capitals 7

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 23 October 2011 - 08:58 PM

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Wow. Mike Green looks less douchey than I remember. Maybe I had him all wrong.


#2217341 Trade between Florida and Vancouver

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 October 2011 - 06:57 PM

TSN.ca



I feel bad for Samuelsson.

Well he left Detroit for Vancouver in part because he wanted a bigger role. Seems like he'll get it in Florida.


#2217202 Johan Franzen Watch Thread

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 October 2011 - 12:49 PM

It's so funny to watch this video of Jamie McClennan years after that cheap shot on Franzen during the Calgary series in 2007.

"He takes abuse in front the net..."

http://video.redwing...id=-6&id=129752

:lol:

I was thinking the same thing. I saw him talking about how much respect he has for Franzen and whatnot, and I'm thinking, isn't this the guy that gave him a two-hander to the gut?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqje98Rit_A

Though it seemed likely it was under coaches orders. they pull Kipper and then Mclennan goes right to work slashing Mule's leg even before the slash to the gut after the whistle.


#2216699 Thoughts on Ericsson?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 21 October 2011 - 11:43 AM

MLive "Red Wings happy with pairing of defensemen Jonathan Ericsson, Jakub Kindl"

Honestly the thought of that pairing scared the crap out of me, but they have looked good so far. Kindl's first pass has improved, and Ericsson is minimizing his brainfarts.

*knocking wood*

Hopefully they keep it up and start playing more and more physical, because it would be a great asset for the Wings two have two young, big defenseman who can eat up minutes and punish guys around the net.


#2216596 Thoughts on Ericsson?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 October 2011 - 09:37 PM

Well besides Lidstrom, is there a single D-Man that doesnt make at least one error every game??

That's part of the problem in evaluating defensemen in Detroit. We get spoiled watching Lidstrom, so it seems like they shouldn't ever make mistakes.

Chris Pronger got absolutely undressed a couple games ago. That doesn't mean he's not a great defenseman. It just happens to the best of them from time to time, unless you're a robot like Lidstrom.


#2216531 Goalie Helmets in Detail

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 October 2011 - 03:28 PM

I didn't realize Jimmy had put a tribute to McCrimmon, Salei and Liv on the back of his mask. Pretty cool.