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#2280246 Wings meet Preds in First Round

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 April 2012 - 12:24 PM

Let's keep it out of the personal and back to the rivalry, shall we?

Personal attacks and trashing cities/states will be deleted and could result in suspension/banning.

Thank you.

#2280113 #6 Chicago Blackhawks vs. #3 Phoenix Coyotes

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 April 2012 - 12:51 AM

Phoenix in six. It would be great for Phoenix to be able to make the next step and get out of the first round, so I will be rooting for them. I don't like the Hawks and I would love to see them out of the playoffs quickly.


And with Toews out of the Hawks lineup, there's basically no one on that team I could stand to root for.

#2279718 4/7 GDT : Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 April 2012 - 02:33 PM

stfu Olczyk.

That's exactly what happened to Nyquist.

#2279339 4/7 GDT : Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 April 2012 - 12:48 PM

Yeah, Edzo never takes off his homer hat. And Pierre never takes off his "I love Edzo" hat.

I always just imagine Olczyk sitting in the broadcast booth wearing a Hawks sweater and a Pens hat as he calls games.

Nyquist looked very good, especially at that last shift. Shaehan looks very bad. Hoe does not really understand what to do on the ice which is way worse compared to Nyquist's and Tatar's first NHL games. At least two years away from NHL.

You're making that assessment based on 5 total shifts in the NHL? :blink:

I'm guessing he's just getting over being so nervous he feels like he has to poop.

#2279319 4/7 GDT : Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 April 2012 - 12:39 PM

Why is Enzo allowed to broadcast Hawk games?

Fixed, but still dont' have any good answer.

#2279304 4/7 GDT : Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 April 2012 - 12:35 PM

FIl playing, so many knee jerks after that hit

The last time a Hawks player speared a Red Wing it resulted in Lids having surgery on his nuts and missing playoff games. I think the reactions are warranted.

#2279297 4/7 GDT : Blackhawks 3 at Red Wings 2

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 April 2012 - 12:34 PM

Maybe Sheahan should do some dental work on Seabrook for trying to neuter Flip.

#2279113 Tortorella Slams Orpik, Crosby, Malkin,...

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 April 2012 - 11:07 AM

I feel like Torts should say something again, depending on his bank account.

I mean, come on, how does Orpik not even get a hearing from the NHL? They saw what happened right? :huh:

I was watching the NHL network and Shanny was on NHL live. EJ Hradek asked him about the Orpik hit, and they got into a lengthy discussion that was really interesting.

Basically at the GM meeting Shanny and the league presented three different examples of knee on knee hits increasing in severity, and also in punishment. Asking if the GMs were ok with the level of punishment or if they wanted the league to be more involved like in the way of headshots and increase suspensions. The GM's said they were ok with the way it was, basically with only the absolute most blatant and severe knee on knee getting a suspension. One of the examples was a hit like Orpik's that only got a 2 minute kneeing penalty. That's why there was no suspension.

Shanny was saying how he told the GM's "you're ok with there being no suspension for this type of hit right now in this meeting, but are you still going to be okay in April and May?" Then they thanked him for coming and said the fans appreciate it too. Shanny laughed and said sarcastically "oh yeah, I know the fans really appreciate it." He knows how much people complain about his decisions.

The whole conversation was cool to hear and made me like Shanny even more.

#2278916 Interference

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 April 2012 - 03:04 PM

But look at it objectively, there wasn't even a guarantee of anything on the play, it was illegal, he got away with it, plays like that happen ALL THE TIME, the only difference was this one was blatant and stupid. It is humorous, you are overreacting big time.

When has this ever happened in the NHL? Let alone ALL THE TIME?

I've never seen it or heard about it and I've been watching hockey a long time.

#2278883 Interference

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 April 2012 - 02:00 PM

I can't believe so many people have their panties in a bunch, it was a stupid play, he got away with it, that makes it funny. Qui being so damn cranky.

I'm guessing you'd feel differently if it happened to the Wings.

The Kings were fighting for a playoff spot, as were the Sharks. It was a huge game. Tied, late in the third period, the Kings on a power play.

It not only disrupted a rush into the offensive zone, it also should've put the Kings on a 5 on 3 power play. Who know what would've happened but if they score on that 5 on 3 they likely win the game outright and the Sharks aren't in the playoffs yet (at least don't think so. I can't keep track of all the possibilities based on what the other teams did).

Aside from the circumstances of the game, it's just mind boggling that the refs missed it.

A player reaching out into the field of play from the bench is a big deal. I can honestly say I've never seen anything like it in all my years of watching hockey, certainly with no penalty called. I've seen guys get involved from the bench where there's scrums there. Holding sticks or going after a player, but never seen one actually put his stick over the boards and onto the ice to disrupt a play. And I've been watching hockey for 30 years.

#2278794 Interference

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 April 2012 - 11:16 AM

My point is simply that if something were to happen behind the play, then everyone would be bitching about the fact that they should have seen it. Other things are going on, and if this happens in 100 games, I bet 98 times it will be caught. It was missed this time, and as long as human beings are reffing the games, things are going to be missed.

Its a complex concept that many people, who are critical of the refs, don't understand because they have never reffed a game in their lives.

There are many important things going on in the game, and you are correct the puck carrier is one of those, but at the same time my point still stands. One ref could have been watching what was going on behind the play while the forward ref could have taken his eye off the play for a second. This kind of thing happens every now and again. Is it excusable? No. Does it happen? Yes. So long as they don't change the way games are reffed, the system will continue to miss things.

Which is why when some of these alternate reffing systems were introduced, I was very encouraged. Having an off ice official that had an elevated platform to watch the games and catch more infractions was a great idea.

Ahh, the "you've never done it so you dont' know like I do" explanation. :rolleyes:

You're making this sound like it was a run of the mill hook that didn't get called. Of course they're going to miss some things like that. Hockey is a fast moving game. Missing something behind the play is a lot more understandable. Missing something this obvious when it happens to the puck carrier is baffling.

This was like it was straight out of Slapshot. A player from the bench reached his stick over and interfered with the puck carrier. That's beer league crap. And everyone saw it except the two referees.

It's shocking that it was missed when it was so obvious. And both the tactic by Clowe and the fact he got away with it makes the NHL reffing look like a joke. Add to that it would've put the Kings on a 5 on 3 powerplay. That's not a little blown call. That's a major screw up by the refs.

This isn't the best clip, but here's the YT of it. The image is overexposed so it's hard to see the stick, but it shows how it happened near center ice to the puck carrier. The ESPN clip is better.


#2278790 Interference

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 April 2012 - 11:02 AM

You do understand that the refs aren't just supposed to be watching the puck or the person playing the puck. There are other things going on in the game.

Umm, yes I managed to grasp that complex concept.

You do understand that one of the most important things going on in the game that the two referees should be watching is the guy carrying the puck up ice?

I guess Couture could've sidestepped the whole issue by just tackling Stoll, since apparently both referees were watching those other things going on that were way more important than a Kings player trying to carry the puck into the offensive zone on a power play.

#2278786 Interference

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 April 2012 - 10:55 AM

Spoken like someone who has never put on the stripes before and reffed a game.

Here is a hint, refs have missed worse. No referee is going to see everything.

There's two refs.

It happened to the guy carrying the puck. Neither ref was watching puck carrier?

#2278525 4/5 GDT : Devils 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 08:47 PM

Ericsson showing why they suggest he convert to defense.

#2278514 4/5 GDT : Devils 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 April 2012 - 08:41 PM

They should've just knocked the net off from behind it. Apparently that's legal. :P