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#2234479 Kronwall and Stuart may be hitting a lot less now

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 December 2011 - 12:14 PM

I don't think this will effect Stuart in any way, as he usually goes ass first and lays a pretty mean Johnny Bucyk on most of his targets. As for Kronwall, he had better be wearing weights on his skates to keep his damn feet on the ground. He knows that the league is watching this now. He has no excuse now. He needs to aim at the crest on the front of the sweater to make sure that he's not head hunting.

I'm sort of baffled at where the "exploding upward" hit came from. What ever happened to the days when Stevens, or Robinson, or Potvin, or Horton, or Marotte, would just run your ass over, and keep skating? And what was so wrong with those hits, that they had to change the style of hitting to more resemble a perfectly executed tackle in football?

Absolutely agree.

Even though the skates are often on the ice during contact, launching up into a guy is in essence still charging. It just slowly became acceptable over the years. So it looks like the league is trying to get it back to where it was.

The good news is that though it looks like they may be trying to take hitting out of the game, the game used to have tons of hitting without players launching up like that. Players just need to learn to get back to that.


#2234409 wait til you see this goal celebration...

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 December 2011 - 01:32 AM

You dont just let a guy taunt your goalie like that, especially with all the s*** thats been happening in the NHl with tendys lately

This.

I like hockey because it's a team sport and players celebrate together after goals. They acknowledge the guy who made a great pass, or took a huge hit to make a play that ended up in their goal.

Some personality is fine, but that was assinine. I don't want hockey to go the way of football. Where nearly every friggin tackle or completed pass involves a player's preplanned signature move.


Leaving the bench was a nutball move by Downie. This warranted a scrum. Not coming off the bench.


#2234137 Ovechkin spears Chris Neil

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 December 2011 - 01:45 PM

I'm done with Ovie. I was such a fan when he came into the league, but he's turned into more and more of an ass with each season.

Dirty hits, questionable fitness, an oversize ego that used to be mostly funny but is now just tired, whining to the refs any time they call him for something, calling his coach a f-ing f*ggot on the bench when he didn't get played in the final minutes of a game, probably getting his coach fired, and now add spearing to the list.

I'm sure I'm missing a few things, but I just can't root for this guy anymore. It's ridiculous that he's the captain.


#2233937 Kronwall and Stuart may be hitting a lot less now

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 December 2011 - 03:30 PM

Existing NHL suspension thread

Or the thread you made on this same hit.


#2233913 12/6 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Blues 3

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 December 2011 - 01:05 PM

My smartassness came as a response to someone being a smartass to me. So I was just playing along.

And you're wrong. Yzerman was bend over pretty much at 90 degrees when Pronger hit him. All you have to do is stop the video when they collide...which I did. I don't blame Yzerman for ducking the hit at all...but don't say he didn't low bridge Pronger...because Yzerman bent over at 90 degrees and making contact with Pronger's knee when Pronger went to hit him is indeed low-bridging. He didn't meant to hurt Pronger, I'm sure...it wasn't dirty...but it is what it is. He went low on Pronger. Period.

No, you're wrong. See, I can play that game too.

Bent over at 90 degrees? You realize I can freeze frame too, right? And at the point of contact he is far from bent over 90 degrees.

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Even if that was true, through the entire hit Stevie's legs are nearly straight up. He's only bent at the waist. That's not a low brige. Lowbridging is when you bail completely out of a hit, essentially falling or ducking way down so your body primarily contacts the guys knees, which is why it is dangerous. It was essentially like a hip check, which happens sometimes when a guy is going at you high. But if you stay upright like Stevie did, it's more of hip to hip contact.

Making contact with Pronger's knees? You remember that Pronger was the one doing the hitting, right? Any knee contact is his own damn fault. It's not like Yzerman flared out a knee or anything. Yzerman didn't go low on Pronger. He was the one being hit. He just turned and bent to protect himself from getting a mouthful of elbow and stick.

It's good to have fans from other teams here and get an outside perspective, but you're losing credibility with every post.


#2233879 12/6 GDT : Red Wings 2 at Blues 3

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 December 2011 - 11:16 AM

I only saw the highlights (or lowlights as the case may be) but I love this quote from Jimmy regarding getting hit in the crease.

"Iím not taking that. I donít care who it is," Howard said. "If youíre going to run me like that or try to go through me like that, youíre going to pay the price."



It's sad that our goaltender has to be the one making guys pay the price for coming in the blue paint, but at least someone is. Jimmy bringing a little Hextall!


#2233794 Jonathan Ericsson Watch Thread

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 December 2011 - 10:13 PM

Two horrendous defensive plays in two minutes by Ericsson. Brilliant.

Haven't been able to watch the game tonight as I'm working, but I checked in for the GDT thought this was funny. You haven't posted since the Avs game. Since then your only posts are the one above and these gems:

In before Harold says that Ericsson is better because he gets more icetime.


Ericsson AGAIN! If****** hate this guy.


Jonathan Ericssonf****** up? NO WAY!!!



So you apparently were lurking until you were able to bash Ericsson and then me. :lol:

How does it feel to be the exact kind of poster that you're constantly lecturing here?


#2233246 Realignment decided - 4 Conferences

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 December 2011 - 01:26 PM

anyone else think that this could be a prelude to a 2 team expansion in the future?

I was hoping it was a prelude to a two team contraction.


#2233215 Realignment decided - 4 Conferences

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 06 December 2011 - 11:30 AM

In case anyone wanted to see how the new conferences are aligned in terms of geography...

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That map shows just how screwed the Florida teams got, and just how much leverage the teams in Conference D have. Must be nice to be able to ride your bike to away games if you wanted to.


#2232870 Derek Boogaard found dead

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 05 December 2011 - 12:30 AM

Agreed.

They touch on the role of enforcers briefly, but do not explore the roots of it's existence, and IMO the fella near the end of video #2 (not sure if he's an MD since his credentials weren't listed) comes across as a jerk when describing the crowds reaction to a fight that took place during a game in Boston.

It'll be interesting to see what parts 2 and 3 hold. Mainly I just think it was interesting to hear about Boogaard's path to the NHL. I don't have a problem with fighting in the NHL or enforcers, but honestly I had forgotten about where it all starts. 16 year olds beating the snot out of each other week after week is a little harder to swallow than grown men doing it for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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#2232850 Miller Ran again

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 04 December 2011 - 10:56 PM

it was tongue in cheek, regardless miller is a giant flop, i don't know why people are defending the guy

Translation: I don't like Ryan Miller.


#2232572 Miller Ran again

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 04 December 2011 - 05:12 PM

he was obviously trying to get out of the way, why doesn't miller deck his teammate for funneling tootoo towards miller. Anybody can pound on a dude's head while he is tied up, why not man to man drop the gloves with tootoo? Miller is a gigantic wuss, i would never want to see howard act this way. But it seems like all goalies do save for guys like Emery or Hextall.

He wasn't funneled towards Miller. Tootoo took a path that had no other result other than running Miller.

And Tootoo has done little in his career to expect a fair fight since he's usually the one throwing punches before the other guy even knows he's in a fight.

And Hextall was the king of slashing guys and clobbering them with his blocker a lot more than he ever squared up and fought.


#2232531 Fistric destroys Niederreiter

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 04 December 2011 - 01:33 PM

Clean hit. Nothing there that is any different than the collection of ones we see from Kronwall. He doesn't leave his feet (jump) to lay the hit, but powers up into it when contact is made.

Agreed. It is very much like a Kronwall hit.

Honestly though I think the exploding up into hits has been a bad development in hitting style over the years, and something the league may try to curb. Because when you're exploding up into a hit, you're putting your force up towards a guys head, even if your skates are on the ice at the point of contact.

It's possible to crush guys without that leaping up. Stevens was the master at it.


#2232323 Will Stuart re-sign?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 03 December 2011 - 01:02 PM

This might sound crazy because I can't think of a stanley cup contender that would trade a top 4 Dman, but if Stuart says he wants to go back to Cali to be with his family, I think the red wings should call up the anaheim ducks and ship him there. Here's why:

1.) he may be a huge part of the team now but on July 1st he is worthless to us. might as well get something in return for him.
2.) The Wings have 8 NHL defensemen. Smith and Kindl are young and it would make sense to keep them. No one is trading Lidstrom ever. Kronwall's our future at the point. Commodore won't get us anything in return. Ericsson I believe has a NTC and even if he doesn't he's 27-28 and under contract next year. That makes Stuart tradable today, in my opinion.
3.) As a UFA he is free to sign anywhere, obviously, and he would hypothetically only want to go to california teams. that means Anaheim, the Sharks, and the Kings could get him for free. If we trade him to Anaheim, he gets to live where he wants and would hopefully sign long term there instead of signing with 2 teams that could very easily stand between us and the cup this year and in the future.
4.) The Ducks are heavy on top 6 talent and really need to retool/ rebuild to become cup contenders again. The wings could get creative and trade something like Stuart, Nyquist, and a 2nd for Bobby Ryan (I'm not sure why the Ducks would want to trade him, but apparently that was the rumor). This would help both teams. The ducks get a solid, reliable dman, a high pick, and a high-end prospect. the wings get a young top 6 forward. And most importantly, Stuart wouldn't be a Shark come next season.

What do you guys think? Or am I crazy for wanting to trade Stuart and give Ericsson more ice team?

It makes some sense in that it sounds like Stuart wants to play closer to home anyway, so they may lose him in the offseason. And it would be something the Ducks could use.

But you're right, it's hard to imagine trading away a top 4 guy headed into the playoffs, which is also where Stuart steps up his game.

Ericsson has been good this season, but I don't know that he's ready to pick up big minutes like he'd have to if they didn't replace Stuart. Though they do have Commie and Smith waiting in the Wings too, so there's a lot of guys to help spread out that ice time, with the major question mark if they can handle it.


#2231889 Crosby is like who?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 02 December 2011 - 02:41 PM

I saw the highlights from last night. Crosby got an elbow under the chin in a scrum at the side of the net. Right away he looked at the ref wanting a penalty. Wuss! Howe would just hit the guy back later in the game.

Exactly.

When Howe looked at the ref, it was to find out if they called a penalty on him for the elbow he just threw, not whining expecting a call the other way.