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#2100220 Doughty HUGE hit on Hall

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 January 2011 - 08:45 PM

Yup - the intimidation factor is there in cases such as this...This isn't seen much today, but from the 70's, and into the 80's there was plenty of it.

I can't speak to the 70s, but as for the 80s, no there wasn't.

I'm sorry, but there just wasn't. I've been watching hockey pretty seriously since the early to mid 80s on. Games would get chippy, there would be full line brawls, there were plenty of elbows and fights, but that is not the same thing as what happens now.

If a player threw a clean hit, the entire team on the ice did not immediately go jump the guy in the middle of the play. Once in a great while, maybe. But now it's become accepted practice.

And if it was a star player that got hit, one of the enforcers on the team would go after him either during that shift or later in the game. Or that team would often start taking runs at the other teams star players. But that's not the same thing. They would intimidate you from hitting guys because of the enforcers, not because the entire team would cheapshot you at once.

I understand protecting a star player, that's why Yzerman had Probert and Gallant on his wing, but it's gotten f-ing ridiculous. It's bad for the game, and it should be heavily penalized. I love hockey because it's a fast, athletic, tough sport. But jumping guys after clean hits makes it like hockey players are china dolls. Like a player is such a puss that he can't handle being hit, so his whole team has to protect him. People ***** and moan about the new NHL and how they're trying to take hitting out of the game, but jumping guys after clean hits is doing the exact same thing.

Imagine in football after someone got crushed catching a pass, if every player on the offense started trying to fight the defensive back who made the hit. It's idiotic.

#2099097 Doughty HUGE hit on Hall

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 17 January 2011 - 07:36 PM

No I dont really like the whole dog pile up thing either but I'm just saying you should not expect it to be a 19 year old superstar to be the one fighting if there is one. If theres gonna be a fight, it wont be the 19 year nor should it be.

Not saying the Oilers did the right thing but I think it is stupid to expect Hall to fight anyone who lays him out when he is 19 and has a fairly tough team around him


Stevie managed to avoid most of those hits, but he also had Joey and Bob making people think hard if they really wanted to take a run at him.

#2099027 THN: Zetterberg should be disciplined for skipping ASG

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 17 January 2011 - 04:05 PM

Honestly this sounds more like sour grapes over the league fining Hanta Yo for his $600 handout.

Not surprising that a blogger from THN would be fixating on some great injustice perpetrated against the beloved Leafs.

Yes the league is wildly inconsistent in enforcing pretty much any of its rules, but to me consistency in punishment for cheapshots is a much greater concern than consistency regarding $600 handouts and the all-star game.

And, no, I didn't really care last year when Dats and Lids were suspended a game and Bettman called Crosby personally to tell him to come.

#2098449 1/15 GDT: Blue Jackets 5 at Red Wings 6 (OT)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 15 January 2011 - 09:28 PM

I hate Rick Nash and his big fat face.

#2097975 1/14 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 3 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 15 January 2011 - 11:39 AM

Agreed. He started out well last night. He was actually shooting the puck at the net instead of trying to pass it at impossible angles. But then he seemed to revert back to his ol' pass-happy self.

Then again, I didn't think Filppula looked all that good, while other posters were raving about him. I can't remember a time when he actually held on to the puck through the neutral zone, at least through the first period or two.

Whadevah! :cool:

I feel like Flip does all these little things right, but is still that one play off from converting a lot of times.

As for Mule, he should get fined every time he tries to make a pass from a shooting position. I don't care if he's playing center or wing, with a shot like his, when he's around the net SHOOT!

#2097464 1/14 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 3 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 January 2011 - 08:29 PM

meh. I don't have a problem with Z taking that penalty.

Want to run at me? Get ready to eat an elbow.

#2097414 1/14 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Blue Jackets 3 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 14 January 2011 - 08:19 PM

With Helmer, I'll take the power play over the penalty shot.

#2094644 Stuart out 6-8 weeks with broken jaw

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 January 2011 - 04:41 PM

6 games I think is appropriate, at least when I try to be unbiased.

A little off topic, but honestly when I think about it, unless we're talking about the playoffs, any suspension should be more than two games, or make it none at all. Because sitting a guy for a couple games in an 82 game season is practically just giving him a rest.

If you're going to dole out punishment, make sure it really hurts the team. If the act doesn't warrant that kind of punishment then it probably didn't deserve suspending for any games at all.

#2094620 Grading the Wings after 41 games

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 January 2011 - 03:22 PM

Hmm, I guess I'm a bit more harsh a grader than the freep.

No kidding.

I'm happy with the Wings overall, but talk about some homer grades there from the free press. On a team that's often giving up 3 and 4 goals a game, they're getting off easy for defensive miscues.

Kronwall's had a great offensives season, but as mentioned by Khan hasn't been hitting anybody, and has had more than his fair share of brainfarts defensively. To me that warrants lower than an A. I'd give Kronwall a B, maybe B-

Rafalski too. doing great offensively, but some games he'll get three points but have just as many brutal defensive gaffes. B or B-.

Homer's been his usual self in front of the net and in the corners, but has been a turnover machine anywhere else. I guess a B fits that though.

And how does Howard get an A-, unless these grades were given after the game last night? Jimmy's not been bad, but if he was in the A range last season, he's a B this season. Too many juicy rebounds and occasional softies.

Ozzy I'd give a B. good, not great. But for the first time has shown he can be effective as a backup.

Otherwise I thought most of the other grades were pretty good.

#2094462 Crosby Out with Mild Concussion

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 January 2011 - 02:24 AM

No s***. Where are all the Crosby defenders now? He's a ***** who thinks he should be untouchable, plain and simple.


Well, at least it wasn't one of the worst hits he's ever seen. That one happened to Franzen, right?

For the record, I think Crosby's a super-talented whiny little *****. But this forum's obsession with him has gotten just sad.

Who gives a crap? People complain about how the NHL gives him way too much attention, but how much do we give him here? He's one single player in the other conference that we'll never really see until the Cup finals if both teams make it that far.

#2093665 Trade Time?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 January 2011 - 05:52 PM

Lack of production isn't the problem.

Lack of commitment to team defense is.

#2093379 1/7 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Flames 4 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 January 2011 - 12:26 AM

Good for Babs, that would be a fine that's 100% worth it! Just saying "crap" or "garbage" doesn't have the same impact.

Edit: I didn't watch, who hit Stuart? Was it another one of those Canadian goons influenced by Don Cherry I've been complaining about the past few years?

He had a long name on the back of his sweater, but I think it was "Gutlesspuke."

Not sure I spelled it correctly though.

#2093361 1/7 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Flames 4 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 08 January 2011 - 12:18 AM

Babs is awesome.

Calling it disgraceful, saying all you have to do is hit the guy, not target his head. "It's unfortunate s*** like that goes on."

think he's pissed?

#2093268 1/7 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Flames 4 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 January 2011 - 11:53 PM


I'm not sure that's relevant. You probably had no pants during regulation.

#2093262 1/7 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Flames 4 (SO)

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 07 January 2011 - 11:53 PM

Wow. Wings come away with two points they didn't deserve tonight.

Ugly but I'll take it.

Now tomorrow how bout working on letting in less than 4 goals as a team?