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#2178431 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 23 May 2011 - 10:21 AM

I wasn't referring to anything about TV ratings or San Jose fans in the US.. I just loathe the Canucks more than I can remember loathing any NHL team in the past. That includes Colorado, Nashville (back when they were a threat), Chicago, Pittsburgh, etc.

There are a multitude of reasons I hate them including the hypocrisy of Mike Gillis, the whole team acting like they just won the cup after game 7 in round 1 including Luongo: "This feels better than the gold medal game", the ridiculous notion in Canada that they be adopted as "Canada's team", the over-the-top bias of CBC announcers (Glenn Healey's idiocy specifically), and Vancouver fans' overall sense of entitlement going back to last season.

Overall the antics and attitude of the Canucks baffles me as to why anyone besides primary Canucks fans would be cheering for them.

I'd much rather see Joe Thornton, Pavelski, Heatley, Couture, etc play for the Cup so it sucks that it's not going to happen, I just hope Boston or Tampa Bay can beat them. If Vancouver goes on to win it will make 3 straight years that the worst possible team won the Cup lol/:(

Agreed. I guess the hatred for the team that's knocked the Wings out twice is stronger for some people.

Since they both can't lose, honestly I'd probably prefer the Sharks win for most of the reasons you mentioned, especially the sense of entitlement and incessant lecturing from Vancouver fans about how great their teams is and how unbiased their perspective is, but barring another meltdown by the Canucks, it ain't happening.

Add to that a lot of canadians apparently root for whatever canadian team is left so Canada can win the Cup (???), so it becomes an inferiority complex on top of an inferiority complex, with all the annoying side effects that go with it.

#2178249 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 May 2011 - 05:13 PM

Why would Kesler dive when the game's over and there's no potential gain?

He lost a couple bottom teeth and had 13 stitches last series. Probably hurt like hell.

edit: Oops. Didn't see RedLightGoesOn's comment above.

You'd have to ask him. Force of habit?

Like I said earlier, I'm a Kesler fan. I've said several times he should win the Selke this year, and probably should've last year. It's not just blind hate. Though this series has made it harder and harder to continue to like him.

But if he's jawing with Clowe like that and doesn't think he could get popped, he's an idiot. Even on hfboards they were pointing out how none of his teammates really checked on him. And how he popped up to congratulate Luongo seconds later. If his jaw is that tender, he probably shouldn't be sticking it in Clowe's face at the end of a game. It's not surprising that Clowe would do that.

#2178244 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 May 2011 - 05:01 PM

Doubt I'll watch anymore of this series after this ref fest. Lighting and Bruins is a much better/funner series to watch.

Agreed. It's like night and day. I don't know if it's the less diving or luck of the draw that they got better refs, but the games are generally much better managed by the officials.

#2178242 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 May 2011 - 04:58 PM

It sure does seem like that's the way the Sharks handle a loss isn't it. Goon it up. Now they'll probably call the Canucks classless in the post-game interviews.

Henrik leads the playoffs in points now. He will never show up in the playoffs.

Salo with a huge game.

Torres was a human wrecking ball. Put Thornton out of the game.

Replacements Ballard and Tanev played great. Ballard's cart-wheel hit was awesome. Tanev is 21 years old. He also played beyond his years earlier in the season when three quarters of our defensive core was out. Great future ahead of him.

I guess you've forgotten how the Nucks reacted in the Chicago series.

#2178236 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 May 2011 - 04:53 PM

Diving is bad enough... but then to stay on the ice for that long afterwards is just embarassing. He was obviously fine because he popped right up to congratulate Luongo, but spent 30 seconds on the ice making sure the refs watched him suffer.

I've always liked Kesler, but these antics are just pathetic. These teams suck.

Is there any way we can make the Eastern Conference finals the Cup finals?

#2178231 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 May 2011 - 04:48 PM

Kesler with one final dive. I'm revising my opinion on him. Looks like the old Kesler is returning.

#2178217 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 May 2011 - 04:34 PM

someone with too much time on their hands should put together a highlight reel of dives from this series.

#2178214 (1) Vancouver Canucks vs. (2) San Jose Sharks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 May 2011 - 04:28 PM

San Jose decides to start playing once it's well into the 3rd period. It's like they've been watching the Wings or something. :P

#2177752 Subliminal Sidney Crosby Messages in NHL commercials?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 May 2011 - 04:13 PM

By definition, modern era would include anyone playing since the 16th century. Sid isn't even on that list.
However, if you even want to look at his Playoff PPG during his career....

PPG playoff leaders:
10-11 Didn't play
09-10 2. Crosby (1. Franzen)
08-09 4. Crosby (1. Malkin, 2. Ovechkin, & 3. Getzlaf did better)
07-08 2. Crosby (1. Jagr)
06-07 15. Crosby

You would think to be the best PPG playoff performer of the "modern era", he'd have to be first in the category at least once in his career.

You must be new to sports?

Your attempts at diminishing Crosby are hilarious. He's a career 1.323 PPG in the postseason. Of active players, only AO is higher. Of course because of the Caps postseason flops his stat is based on 25 fewer games. None of the other guys you mention are even in the ballpark for career PPG.

So yes, Crosby missed being #1 last season to Franzen by .04 ppg, but if I had to choose I'd rather have the player who averages 1.32 PPG in the postseason for 62 games in his career than the one who manages to lead it for 12 games one playoffs.

And for the regular season, Crosby averages 1.388 ppg, which puts him top among active players and behind only Gretzky, Lemieux, Bossy, and Orr.

Some Red Wings playoff ppg, by comparison:

Zetterberg: .952 (he's the only active Red Wings in the Top 50 all time)
Franzen : .867
Datsyuk: .752

#2177739 Derek Boogaard found dead

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 20 May 2011 - 03:44 PM

It may not be the most politically correct time to delve into the issue of drug abuse, if they ever address it at all, so I don't think that'll be covered much by the league.. the media might touch upon it, but right now looks doubtful.

And the NHL can only be someone's nanny so much. Certainly oxy nor alcohol would help Boogaard on the ice at all. It would help quite a bit in managing injuries especially if suffered through fighting, or in his case he had been out for months due to post-concussion symptoms.

I don't see the league touching this at all. They likely just want it to go away, because it's not a huge leap from concussion to depression to substance abuse to death. It's just a grim reminder of how hard making a living getting punched in the head can be.
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#2177159 Brad McCrimmon will not return for 2011/2012

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 19 May 2011 - 10:41 AM

It's the off season, Harold. Hyperbole encouraged!!!!!!

True. Why not shoot higher then?

Scotty Bowman for assistant coach to Babcock!

#2176897 Subliminal Sidney Crosby Messages in NHL commercials?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 18 May 2011 - 08:45 PM

They were just the ones who came to mind then and there. But hell Masalskis played great for Latvia, but the team fell on their faces. I just think you are way too quick to crown him, especially while Ovie is playing better hockey than Crosby, and has been for a while.

But the point of the matter is, it is a team sport. One player can't carry a team like some want to believe. If you notice the Pens didn't do half bad after he went down for the year either.

Up until this season that may have been true.

I don't even really know what this is about anymore though, other than another stupid thread about how much Crosby sucks.

#2176804 Subliminal Sidney Crosby Messages in NHL commercials?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 18 May 2011 - 12:59 PM

Actually they are. Did you thread this entire thread? See quote from CupforWings below:

<<Crosby is more then just another talented player... The guy is a beast, is 23 years old, and was on pace for 120 or more points. I hate Crosby as much as the next guy, but he is one of the most talented players of all time. Hopefully he is able to recover and keep putting up monster points like he was this year.>>

Actually I think the success of the NHL relies on the fans putting up money to support the league by going to games, buying merchandise, and watching games on TV. Sid is only one player who can only effect these factors in a limited way. I completely disagree that the future of the NHL lies in the hands of Sidney Crosby. Example: this years first round playoff's have brought record nielsen "shares"/tv auidence in many, many markets. Sid's wasn't even in the playoff's this year. Compltely disagree. Is it better with him, of course. Will it fail or "fall back into the shadows" without him, no. If I'm a Tampa Bay fan am I NOT going to support my team and go to games, buy jersey's, follow them on TV because Sid is not playing for the Pens? Ridiculous.

Rocket Richard trophy
Stanley Cup (and another Finals appearance)
Art Ross
Olympic Gold Medal
World Junior Gold medal

has 82 points in 62 career playoff games and had 66 points in 41 games this season before his injury.

All before he's what, 24 years old? If a Red Wings player had done all that you wouldn't call them one of the most talented players of all time?

I think he's a snotty little ****** much of the time, but Crosby is already one of the all time greats, and it's bad for the NHL if he's not playing. Wouldn't it be bad for the NHL if Datsyuk wasn't playing?

It's still a canadian game and Sid is a Canadian superstar. Or course they're going to talk more about him. Yes, it'd be great if they focused more on some of the other great players in this league, but that's not his fault. And honestly, I've been an Ovechkin fan but Crosby is clearly the better of the two, and the gap was widening before his injury.

#2176778 Sharks Accuse Canucks of Diving

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 18 May 2011 - 12:00 PM

Don't the Sharks know that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?

#2176292 Holland or Yzerman?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 16 May 2011 - 07:03 PM

Starting now and for the future?

Yzerman of course. Same reason Emperor Palpatine wanted Luke Skywalker to replace Darth Vader as his new apprentice.

Holland has accomplished a lot here, but every GM moves on eventually, and I would have loved to see Yzerman move in as Wings GM because he'll always be a Wing to me.

Only problem I see is him being conflicted and loyal to players he used to play with, which is a large part of this team. I think he would have felt uncomfortable making moves on some of these players who were his former teammates and friends.

But alas, it's too late. Yzerman is not going to leave Tampa anytime soon. Doesn't strike me as that kind of person.

Holland just re-signed for 5 years anyway. But when that contract is up, seems like a perfect time for Stevie to come home. Let Stevie get more experience under his belt there, and by then most of the guys he played with for years in Detroit will be long gone.