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#2613618 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 09 June 2015 - 10:53 AM


Well perhaps it should die, because what they do as an organization has little bearing on the Wings. Caring a hate-torch for the Hawks is petty. It's what Chicago did when they were jealous of Detroit for 20 years. I don't want that going the other way while they're on top as Detroit retools.


So, unless they're beating the Wings in the Cup final, or keeping them from making the playoffs, I'll reserve my loathing for teams like Tampa, Montreal, Boston, and eventually Florida and Buffalo.


But this is just how I feel. Personal preference.


How is hating the Blackhawks more petty than hating any other team in the league? Hatred isn't rational. It's part of being a fan and having rivalries.  


For me it's not only deeply ingrained from the longstanding Wings rivalry, but it's also that their current roster has several players who are pretty easy to hate compared to the Lightning.  Then throw their fanbase on top of it and it comes pretty easily. 


If I'm picking a team I'd want to win the Cup that's not the Wings, between the Blackhawks and Tampa, it's a pretty easy choice.  If only to make Eddie Olczyk shed tears that subtly interfere with his happiness.

#2613197 Which Sweater Do RWs Retire First - Feds or Ozzy?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 04 June 2015 - 07:37 PM

Unlikely it'll be either.  But if it's going to be one of those two it should be Fedorov. 


Osgood was a big part of the team but is not the caliber of player that the Wings retire jerseys for.

#2613032 Report: Jeff Petry and Munn-tree-all ruin 2015 free agency

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 03 June 2015 - 06:47 PM

Can we please try to keep at least some of these threads not about Mike Babcock?  Thanks.

#2612522 2015 SCF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. Tampa Bay Lightning

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 31 May 2015 - 12:58 PM

you mean just like the red wings did in their glory years?


man, so nice to see everyone hating the Hawks in Detroit just because Chicago has a great team. What goes around comes around.


You might want to check the Wings roster from their glory years (I'm assuming you're talking 1996ish to 2000).  


Yzerman is the highest draft pick.  Then next I think is Marty Lapointe taken 10th overall.  Fedorov was taken in the 4th round.  Lidstrom in the 3rd. Shanahan the Wings traded for.  Draper was acquired for a dollar. 


Not quite the same as getting Toews and Kane in back to back drafts. 

#2612516 WCF : (3) Chicago Blackhawks vs. (1) Anaheim Ducks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 31 May 2015 - 12:24 PM

Oh wel.  


I'm pulling for the Lightning but unfortunately they feel like the young Cinderella team that loses to the veteran Cup team in the Finals.  



And I agree. That goal was about as kicked as you can get.  There is zero standard for this in the NHL.

#2611359 The return of The Mule?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 29 May 2015 - 09:33 AM

Well you weren't the one regularly insinuating that Franzen was a homosexual malingerer either.  But that didn't stop plenty of people from doing so. 
Franzen, more than any other player on our team, has been singled out for personal criticisms which have nothing whatsoever to do with his play on the ice.  It's odd to see those very same folks showing concern for his personal well being now. 
Anybody can be criticized (justifiably) for their play.  But much of the Franzen hate has gone WAY beyond level headed scrutiny.

True. But I think that starts to happen to a degree with anyone who's become a scapegoat here. Ericsson, Cleary, even Howard the second half of the season. People were acting like Clearly's objective was to singlehandedly ruin the Red Wings and that he was a greedy, terrible person.

Franzen has just been a scapegoat for a lot longer than most so the bashing has gone further afield, though honestly I don't remember a ton of criticism's that involved his personal life. Though there have been plenty of childish insults.

Sometimes as a rabid hockey fan we forget these guys are real people.

#2611355 The return of The Mule?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 29 May 2015 - 09:18 AM

It's amazing how much disdain this guy generated for some, and now that he's hurt and possibly retiring it's magically disappeared.

Don't worry guys, he'll come back so we can discuss buying him out again

There's a major distinction between criticizing someone as a player and not wanting them to end up braindead.

There's guys on other teams that I hate with a passion but if they take a puck to the face, I'm not cheering. I'm hoping they're ok. (And I don't even hate Franzen but he's a frustrating player at times).

I hope Franzen stays on LTIR. And it has nothing to do with his play on the ice.

#2610990 WCF : (3) Chicago Blackhawks vs. (1) Anaheim Ducks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 28 May 2015 - 09:14 AM

A couple more reasons not to want the Blackhawks to win:

1) Because of the joy it would bring Eddie "subtle interference" Olczyk. I always picture him sitting in the booth wearing his Hawks jersey.

2) Not wanting to see Duncan "I'll carve you up" Keith lift the Cup again. One of the dirtier star players in the league.

And don't get me wrong, I'd want the Ducks to lose in the finals.

#2610988 WCF : (3) Chicago Blackhawks vs. (1) Anaheim Ducks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 28 May 2015 - 09:07 AM

I realize that there's all sorts of residual hate from the rivalry (or what was left of it), but I really don't understand hating the Blackhawks and wanting teams in our conference (and particularly our division) to win.  Firstly, because f*** anybody else in our division.  But secondly, because the Hawks play (and win) EXACTLY like we used to.  They're the Red Wings.  If anybody should be able to appreciate just how good they are at what they do, it's us.  If you'd just thrown Red Wings sweaters on the Hawks last night, it could have easily been confused for the 2009 conference semis. 
Maybe that's the reason why, now that I think about it.

For me it's basically a decades old hate for the Blackhawks. It's in my DNA at this point.

And for a slightly more rational reason, the more Cups the Blackhawks win the more they move towards dynasty status and overshadow what the Wings had accomplished.

#2610159 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 25 May 2015 - 10:08 PM

If he scores a ppg during these playoffs and has a big role in them winning the championship, what do you think his chances are of making the wings roster out of camp?
Or do you think they'll keep him in grand rapids regardless?



 Given he's only 18 I have to think they're keeping him in Grand Rapids for the season regardless, barring a lot of injuries for the Wings and Larkin playing lights out.  

#2610149 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 25 May 2015 - 09:19 PM

Off to a good start.  Larkin score two tonight.  





#2610032 Ovechkin Top 5 Goal Scorer all time?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 25 May 2015 - 11:22 AM

I've been thinking about this too, was listening to MvsW the other week and they said Ovi was 9th in scoring since 1992 (NHL debut in 2005), fair to say he doesn't reach Gretzky but he might reach Bossy and Hull. Even if he doesn't, in an era where scoring is down, goalie pads are bigger etc he will surely go down as one of the greatest scorers the game has ever seen.


He also lost a season and a half to lockouts. 


Where he ends up scoring wise depends on if the trend of allowing interference continues of if the league heads back to where it was after the lockout.   He's certainly one of the greatest goal scorers the game has ever seen though. 

#2609706 WCF : (3) Chicago Blackhawks vs. (1) Anaheim Ducks

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 May 2015 - 12:57 PM

Go Ducks!


(then please lose in the next round)

#2609685 Nicklas Lidstrom co-authors scientific paper in Sweden

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 May 2015 - 11:46 AM

Blech.  I feel like the focus on statistics and fancy stats is ruining sports for me.  It's turning away from a competition of will, luck, opportunity and whatnot and turning into a predictable pseudo-science.


I'm not a huge fan of "advanced" stats because they're so often abused, but it doesn't sound like what this is about.


And I've always thought a big part of Lidstrom's success was his ability to make the right play so consistently.  He put up a lot of points but played pretty conservatively.  Then if the Wings were down in key games is when you'd suddenly see Lids jumping into the play on offense.  He was a coach's dream because he played the percentages, and usually correctly. 

#2609684 Babcock says good-bye in full page ad. SIAP

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 22 May 2015 - 11:43 AM


Ashley Dunkak @AshleyDunkak

One comment Babcock made with a smile: "My decision to leave is my decision. My wife wanted me to make that clear; it's not on her."



I was glad he said that.  I know he said it originally as a joke but the whole thing about "his wife being the boss" irked me.  


Take responsibility for your decision.  Even if it is your wife saying no way in hell I'm going to Buffalo, you still say it was your decision and not put it on her.