Whelp, thems the breaks. Nothing to be angry about guys. It's fate. There was literally nothing else that could have been done to improve this team over the last 5 years, other than what's already been done. Nothing. He went to the wall and it just wasn't in the cards.
Ken Holland is only one man. He can't produce miracles.
I disagree (unless you're being sarcastic?)
Replace Ken Holland's name with Dan Cleary and tell me if that line of reasoning still works.
Cleary works harder than almost anyone on the ice, but that doesn't matter. He simply doesn't produce the results necessary to remain competitive at the NHL level.
Holland has an incredibly difficult job. So do the other 29 GM's in the league. It's not always going to work out, but the results are still what matter. Not how hard he tried.
There were absolutely things that could've been done in the last 5 years. Just because Holland didn't make them doesn't mean they didn't exist.
From what I understand Gilbert did really well on the first pairing in FLA last season. Of course, being on a terrible team and not being a *superstar* caliber defenseman. You're pretty much fly under the radar and get panned as a nobody with little worth. Gilbert would be fine if everyone else slips through our fingers. He's not the home-run that everyone will be looking for tomorrow afternoon, but I think I would prefer him to Boyle as he wouldn't be as expensive and would probably allow flexibility for trades later in the season -- if necessary.
I would slot him in as our #5 D-man to pair with a kid. He's definitely not a 1st or 2nd pairing guy on our team.
So worst case scenario:
Kron - Smith
Deke - Ericsson
Gilbert - *Kid*
That's what I was thinking. If it's between Boyle and Gilbert, I'm probably more interested in Gilbert.
Niskanen scares me a little because he's going to require such a huge commitment in term and salary.
I would think Stevie could get more than a 6th round pick for Gagner. He's only 24 and has a $3.2 million dollar cap hit over the next two seasons.
Good job freeing up cap space, but bad asset management IMO.
It's sounding like the most important goal was cap space before the free agent market opened. So Yzerman trades Purcell (who was a buyout target for Tampa) rather than buying him out because he's older and would be a 2/3 buyout. Now he has Gagner, who I guess they weren't terribly interested in. Then instead of buying out Gagner (which would only be 1/3 buyout because of his young age), Yzerman trades him while retaining salary equivalent to a buyout, but gets a 6th rounder for his troubles.
I'm not super familiar with Tampa but aren't they neck deep in good young forwards? So they don't have much of a need for Gagner and Yzerman is trying to clear space immediately.
This is a busy time of year in terms of trades/signings/buyouts and there's a lot of rumor and speculation that goes with that. A proper source and link separates fact from fiction. Threads without that information will be locked. It takes two seconds to copy and paste a link.
No source to show, I know someone close to Holland. I only get to talk to him maybe once a year though. That's why when I do, I get all kinds of info at once, just like last year. But their intentions are to trade pulkinnen in a package, they know he probably won't have a shot at making the team with nyquist Tatar jurco sheahan and mantha.
He will be traded before the end of the season in a package. Like it or not.
Has no balls? Would trade our most valuable assets for players, literally almost every team wants a kings ransom. The one team that didn't was San Jose, and guess what, Thornton wouldn't waive his no trade clause to go to Detroit. No one wants to bring their families to a gang infested neighborhood to play hockey. San Jose was going to trade him pretty cheap too.
Then please clearly state in your posts that the information is a rumor instead of as if it's fact.
Actually Holland has not been sitting on his hands the past two years. Everyone wants any two of nyquist, Tatar and mantha and that's it. And jarnkrok did in fact tell Holland he won't play another season in the ahl, he wanted guaranteed nhl time, which is why he was traded.
Pulkinnen will also be traded or let to walk, he won't be making the team.