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Howard had a Sh** night.  But he is a good goalie & he has been there almost EVERY game he has played this year.  He absolutely contributed to this loss, but we are on the edge of the post season for soooooooo many reasons that have nothing to do with him.  We have way too many 4 liners, throughout this line up; And that... is the GM's responsibility to address. as it was last year & the year before.

BIg E nonchalant and our season might be over if we can't score. 

Hey, Look at the bright side.  At least we don't have 7 million tied up in E & Quincy!

It seems like Holland retired 4 years ago.  Kenny will leave when he has a shot at managing Toronto.  Let's hope that is sooner than later.  Nobody that is ever great at anything is great forever (except Scotty).  Thank you Kenny for the great years & memories.  Those days are over, congrats!  Now GTFO, 

I don't think that Mike Ilitch is fully aware of much that's going on around him, sadly. Age has taken its toll.

Mike is completely aware.  Critique the teams performance, vent about your dissipointment it's all well and good.  We all appreciate th Wings and or hockey in general but to be so personally insulting about someone that has contributed to Hockey and fans of Detroit hockey is irresponsible.  It's too bad.

 

If Holland stands pat at this deadline, then I'm joining the "Fire Holland" crowd. 

Welcome to the club

The business is doing just fine.

If becoming less significant, selling less merch (globally), drawing less in other arenas (compared to last 10 years), less attractive to free agents and being less competative is the definition of doing fine you have no concept of determining any business's health.  Cheers to you & to having enough time (clearly not being intimate with any business) to do another 10,000.00 posts.

Teams are businesses. That's one reason why Holland is unwilling to trade away future assets: it's better business for a team to remai ncompetitive but not good enough to win it all than it is for teams to go far sometimes and tank the rest. 

Exactly, if I allowed my teritory to to slip each year & I couldn't demonstrate that I was looking at my businesess in new ways & had a strategy to improve it & didn't execute any meaningful changes within three years.  I would be gone.  It is a business.

Please no.... If he was 3,000,000. then fine if he played on the third pairing where E should be playing.  Rather do nothing than handcuff ourselves into something that prohibits our ability to get a top guy for the coming season.

I think you are right.  I don't think Kenny would extend an offer to a RFA.   He hasn't had to in the past.  He has had lots of assets & assets wanted to come here.  We aren't stacked enough to be attractive in the same way.

It's a new day for Kenny Holland.  He better strike a new ballance between being respectful of other GM's & improving his team.  If Kenny Holland was viewed as a rock star today he should be seen as Pat Boone.  Who wants to go see Pat Boone? Nobody!  Hell, how many people even know who he is?

While Pav, Hank & Kronner are great, Detroit simply does not have the collection of skilled assets that other players drool over playing with.  The cap has made it difficult, but Kenny's philosophy has made it tougher.  He has waited three years too long to address his team's needs.  Now we are almost the new Calgary Flames.

I hope Jimmy D & Mr. I don't take three years to address the GM issies.

Why is this not done?!

Cool!  Glad to know that.  Pinckney boy does good.  Maybe he misses Cap'n Frosty???

Betcha Holland is putting together his best pitch for Shane Doan......  It would be an excellent recovery step.  4 years avg 5.75 cap hit.

what if we sign malkin next year?

Put down the muggles,  Malkin is going nowhere.  Crosby is a hit away from pissing his pants every time the microwave is on.

As has always been true with the Red Wings, the support for this team is a mile wide and an inch thick, now that the decline has begun, the bandwagon is is getting a whole lot lighter.

I see your point, but I don't see it that way.  I see a fan base concerned, maybe angry & maybe a little anxious.  I think it reveals connection to the organization & the sport.  You never hear from the customers that just stop paying attention.  Also, the offseason is yet anotyer season within the game.  I love this part of the season.

I have disagreed with KH over the last three years, for sure.  I still love & follow the wings & I will long after Kenny is managing Disney on ice.

Give Holland his due!

On one hand he did what he could & made a responsible pitch to the right guy.

On the other hand the Red Wings are not as attractive to players as they used to be IN LARGE PART because he FAILED to begin reshaping the team three YEARS ago;  & that IS his fault & is the beginning of the end for him and his reputation as a premier GM.

Now, lets see if he can compensate and begin to repair HIS mistakes in a meaningful way.