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In Topic: Eklund: (Haha, I know, but) Toronto/San Jose

Yesterday, 12:31 PM

I think that deal gets San Jose fleeced, personally.

 

They do. No way do they make this move. Unless Thornton is a real problem in the locker room and needs to get shipped out ASAP and this is the very best they can do.


In Topic: Dan Rosen Pens a Great Piece on Babcock's Coaching Tree

19 October 2014 - 02:15 PM

He's good, but he's not Scotty Bowman. Scotty Bowman is worth a blank check.

 

He's probably the closest thing there is to a Scotty Bowman, though. That's the thing. Sure, let him walk, but whoever you replace him with, it's very likely that guy - bless his heart - is going to be a step down overall. Even if you remove actual coaching ability from the equation, you're losing a ton of institutional knowledge and, clearly, a vast network of contacts, connections. The man's almost a legend in an era where head coaches...well, there aren't many legendary types behind NHL benches these days.


In Topic: 10/18 GDT - Maple Leafs 0 at Red Wings 1 (OT)

19 October 2014 - 02:06 PM

Weiss sucks; he looked lost - like a kid getting pushed around by adults.  Put someone out there that is hungry - not just because he has a contract.  He's the next Samuelsson - ugh!

 

He wasn't very good, but, to be fair, this was his first game in over ten months.

 

Maybe if Helm was the kind of piece that would land us a top pairing d-man I would consider it. But I think he is more valuable to us than he is in a trade. We always seem to be a much better team when he's playing than when he isn't. 

 

I guess if Buffalo for example would give us Myers ONLY if they get Helm I wouldn't say no, but we know everyone wants guys like Nyquist/Mantha/Jurco. 

 

Agreed. I think Helm for Petry and maybe a pick is close to being a good deal for us, because Petry can be a pretty good top-pairing defenseman. But even there, I feel Helm is too valuable. He makes us a better team, creates chances with his speed, backs off the opposing D, kills penalties, is arguably our best defensive forward in our bottom six, can set a physical tone with his forechecking. While we're overloaded at center, Helm shouldn't be one of the ones feeling the squeeze. Unless this is a really big deal for a really good player that we really can't pass up.


In Topic: Myers close to become a wing?

19 October 2014 - 01:35 PM

I can't see this happening. Certainly not anytime soon (i.e. before the trade deadline). Buffalo's going to want a lot, especially from a divisonal rival that's looking to build itself back into a perennial contender. (And that goes both ways. We don't want cast-offs coming back to haunt us.) While it'd be nice to have a Tyler Myers, I don't think Kenny can justify moving three or four good pieces for such a player at this point in time. Franzen is definitely flat-out off the table, as this team clearly needs all the high-end finishing ability it can get.

 

Do we need a right shot on the back end, especially on the power play? God yes. But with the options we have in Grand Rapids, and with our team performing pretty well overall so far, I don't think we're desperate enough to make this kind of move. And that's sort of what you'd have to be to make this move. Desperate. Either your blue line really needs help, or you're a legit contender looking for that final piece to put you over. Neither applies to us, IMO.


In Topic: Jeff Petry; trade between us and oilers

18 October 2014 - 05:50 PM

I like what our blue line has shown through these first four games. I like this emphasis on low-event hockey. I like the emphasis on structure and set plays. I like that every player seems to know what he's doing, what he'd like to do next, and what he'll do if things don't go according to plan. I like that when something does go wrong and the puck ends up in our net, it's because of a simple turnover, so all Babcock has to say is "That? Don't do that." I like that the D are jumping into the attack, that we're showing some physicality in our end, that The Forbidden Play - the breakout pass through the middle of the ice - seems to be throwing off the opposition. I like that we're no longer an adventure in our end, that we've calmed down, matured, grown, flat-out improved.

 

I also like Jeff Petry. But when I look at our blue line...to me, it doesn't scream "Could really use Jeff Petry." I think he'd settle in as a good #3 or #4, and, frankly, that's not what we need. Certainly not if it costs us Helm. His shortcomings are familiar to us - mental lapses in the d-zone, soft plays, inconsistency. He was a strong possession player last season, basically serving as Edmonton's #1 defenseman, but I don't know if adding him moves our needle closer to true Cup contention.