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#2532911 Wings sign Zengerle

Posted by number9 on 23 July 2014 - 09:06 PM

watching his highlights I he seems like a veryyyy good first pass guy. I know we have a lot of those, but if he keeps improving I can't imagine what he could do with guys like Jurco, Tatar, and Pulikkenen on his wings. Good signing. He and Miele could end up being very good acquisitions in the near future.




#2532870 Alfie wants to play

Posted by kipwinger on 23 July 2014 - 09:57 AM

I like this. I think I mentioned a while back in another thread that we don't have any players that are consistently fighting for the tough areas in front of the net. Cleary used to be good at it, Abdelkader kinda, but his role on the team is constantly shifting. Jurco and Sheahan maybe as they continue to develop. Franzen? Lol. There's a niche waiting to be occupied, and as you mentioned, Callahan has thrived in the AHL with all the necessary tools.

 

I agree.  And doesn't he just seem like a guy that Babcock would like?  He's gritty, hardworking, defensively responsible AND can score goals now and again?  I imagine Babs says those words to himself over and over in the mirror when trying to get aroused. 




#2532868 Alfie wants to play

Posted by Echolalia on 23 July 2014 - 09:52 AM

 
I don't understand why Callahan doesn't just become the new Holmstrom?  He's clearly tough as hell, has a scoring touch around the crease, and isn't afraid to stand in front of slap shots.  Plus, he's actually good defensively and on special teams.
 
In another dimension (one where the Wings don't have Andersson or Cleary or Glendening on the opening night roster) I'd pencil this kid in as my fourth line winger, penalty killer, and net front on my 2nd PP unit. 

I like this. I think I mentioned a while back in another thread that we don't have any players that are consistently fighting for the tough areas in front of the net. Cleary used to be good at it, Abdelkader kinda, but his role on the team is constantly shifting. Jurco and Sheahan maybe as they continue to develop. Franzen? Lol. There's a niche waiting to be occupied, and as you mentioned, Callahan has thrived in the AHL with all the necessary tools.


#2532864 Alfie wants to play

Posted by kipwinger on 23 July 2014 - 09:13 AM

The Detroit Red Wings have long had the philosophy that prospects need to be "ripe" before they make the jump to the National Hockey League. That means after getting drafted, our prospects spend around 3-5 years between junior or overseas and the AHL before finally getting their shot in the NHL. This has proven to be successful for many years now and I don't see them drastically changing that system any time soon.

 

I don't see there being much of a chance that Mantha makes the big club this season, despite how highly fans, media and management regard him, nor do I think Jurco will start the season in the NHL. I'm actually a fan of the Red Wing way, of over ripening players, and I like the idea of having a farm oozing with talent. Depth is probably the biggest key to a teams success in the league today, and because of our drafting, development and ripening methods, we are definitely stacked with depth in the minors.

 

There is a reason players like Nyquist and Tatar were able to jump into the NHL with little to no growing pains, while highly regarded players drafted by other teams get thrown in the fire too early and flame out due to not being ready, and having their confidence destroyed. I'm just as excited for all these kids as anyone but I think it would be a huge mistake to throw them in the best league in the world before they're fully ready, both physically and mentally. In my opinion, on the back end, Marchenko could be ready for full time duty in the NHL, other than that I think Backman, Ouellet, Sproul and Jensen can all use more seasoning in the AHL. Up front, Jurco is the closest to being ready, but could still use another season down in the minors, along with Pulkkinen, Mantha, Athanasiou, etc.

 

Anyway, point being, I don't think there is any harm in resigning a future hall-of-famer, veteran like Alfredsson, allowing all of our forward prospects another season in Grand Rapids to round out there game. Having these guys getting top line minutes and loads of PP time down in Grand Rapids, to me is a lot more beneficial than getting 3rd line minutes and no PP time up in Detroit.

 

 

As for our RFA's that are not waiver exempt, I don't think there is any chance whatsoever that any team picks up Nestrasil, with a slim chance a team takes a chance on Ferraro, although that may be even less likely now with uncle Tony now as the assistant coach. My only fear is that we lose Callahan. The kid is coming off a career year with the Griffins, is an absolute warrior and would be a great addition to any teams 4th line. I hope Holland doesn't give any team the chance to claim him. No he's not going to put up a lot of points but I think he would be a huge loss...

 

I don't understand why Callahan doesn't just become the new Holmstrom?  He's clearly tough as hell, has a scoring touch around the crease, and isn't afraid to stand in front of slap shots.  Plus, he's actually good defensively and on special teams.

 

In another dimension (one where the Wings don't have Andersson or Cleary or Glendening on the opening night roster) I'd pencil this kid in as my fourth line winger, penalty killer, and net front on my 2nd PP unit. 




#2532861 Alfie wants to play

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 July 2014 - 08:47 AM

The Detroit Red Wings have long had the philosophy that prospects need to be "ripe" before they make the jump to the National Hockey League. That means after getting drafted, our prospects spend around 3-5 years between junior or overseas and the AHL before finally getting their shot in the NHL. This has proven to be successful for many years now and I don't see them drastically changing that system any time soon.

 

I don't see there being much of a chance that Mantha makes the big club this season, despite how highly fans, media and management regard him, nor do I think Jurco will start the season in the NHL. I'm actually a fan of the Red Wing way, of over ripening players, and I like the idea of having a farm oozing with talent. Depth is probably the biggest key to a teams success in the league today, and because of our drafting, development and ripening methods, we are definitely stacked with depth in the minors.

 

There is a reason players like Nyquist and Tatar were able to jump into the NHL with little to no growing pains, while highly regarded players drafted by other teams get thrown in the fire too early and flame out due to not being ready, and having their confidence destroyed. I'm just as excited for all these kids as anyone but I think it would be a huge mistake to throw them in the best league in the world before they're fully ready, both physically and mentally. In my opinion, on the back end, Marchenko could be ready for full time duty in the NHL, other than that I think Backman, Ouellet, Sproul and Jensen can all use more seasoning in the AHL. Up front, Jurco is the closest to being ready, but could still use another season down in the minors, along with Pulkkinen, Mantha, Athanasiou, etc.

 

Anyway, point being, I don't think there is any harm in resigning a future hall-of-famer, veteran like Alfredsson, allowing all of our forward prospects another season in Grand Rapids to round out there game. Having these guys getting top line minutes and loads of PP time down in Grand Rapids, to me is a lot more beneficial than getting 3rd line minutes and no PP time up in Detroit.

 

 

As for our RFA's that are not waiver exempt, I don't think there is any chance whatsoever that any team picks up Nestrasil, with a slim chance a team takes a chance on Ferraro, although that may be even less likely now with uncle Tony now as the assistant coach. My only fear is that we lose Callahan. The kid is coming off a career year with the Griffins, is an absolute warrior and would be a great addition to any teams 4th line. I hope Holland doesn't give any team the chance to claim him. No he's not going to put up a lot of points but I think he would be a huge loss...




#2532834 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 22 July 2014 - 06:01 PM

I mostly just took that position because I wanted to call someone "soft in the head". I wouldn't care if the took a flier on Mueller if it was a two way.


#2532617 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by ben_usmc on 20 July 2014 - 10:17 AM

The Red Wings have announced the dates for the 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp. Does anyone have advice for attending the events, and is anyone thinking of going to either of the events this year?

 

http://www.mlive.com...nounce_dat.html

 

 

Karate Chop Ken Holland in the face and ask him what the f*** his problem is




#2532818 Hockey News: Detroit has the easiest schedule

Posted by Son of a Wing on 22 July 2014 - 02:49 PM

With the exception of Detroit, Tampa Bay and possibly Columbus, every other Eastern team who made the playoffs has taken a serious step back or are in cap hell.

 

Washington looks good on paper but they have always looked pretty good on paper. (aside from their goaltending)

 

Carolina did nothing to improve.  Islander's defence is a joke and who knows with the Leafs.

 

Personally, I like our chances....




#2532503 Babcock Interview on 105.1 this morning

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 18 July 2014 - 04:55 PM

 

That's legit, but nobody is remembering how Quenneville nearly did the exact same thing to us with those Blues teams in the late 90's that were significantly less talented than our Cup teams.  And he was coaching against Bowman. 

 

One of the reasons that I think Quenneville is a great coach?  Of the 15 times he's made the playoffs he's won the Cup twice and lost to the eventual Cup winner 7 times including three times to the Bowman Wings (widely considered some of the greatest teams EVER to play hockey) of the late 90's and early 2000's.  The best teams Babs has lost to?  Quenneville's Hawks a year ago. 

 

Before he hooked up with the Hawks though, he made it out of the 2nd round of the playoffs once in 10 years as a head coach.  Losing to the eventual cup winner in a first round series doesn't really count for much to me. 

 

Babcock took out the 2003 Red Wings in 4 games with a Ducks roster that wasn't exactly stacked with stars and got them to game 7 of the Finals.

in 2007 he took the Wings to the Conference finals, losing to a great team and eventual Cup winner in the Ducks . 

In 2008 he won the Cup

In 2009 he went through the Ducks, still a very good team, and beat Quenneville's Blackhawks (the next year's Cup winner), then took the Pens (who people here don't like to admit but were a great team) to 7 games.

In 2013 he took the Blackhawks to game 7 OT with a lineup that had no business hanging with the Hawks.

 

I think Quenneville is a good coach, but I still put Babcock a notch above him.  




#2532633 'District Detroit': Red Wings' New Arena Details Released

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 20 July 2014 - 12:14 PM

I think it looks amazing. Hopefully it all comes to fruition. I am so thankful that there are people out there who love the city of Detroit as much as I do and who refuse to give up on trying to make it a better place. I will miss the Joe in all its s***ty glory, and hope they don't tear it down. I'd like to see it repurposed, maybe as the aquarium they had talked about at one time, but I know that's probably a pipe dream.


#2532529 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Spongewingredpants on 19 July 2014 - 01:10 AM

i would like a 1 million $ bonus for showing up to work for 10 days too




#2532362 Callahan and Nestrasil re-signed

Posted by Nev on 17 July 2014 - 03:33 PM

Well, Kenny sure has had a great off season for the Griffins.




#2532351 Callahan and Nestrasil re-signed

Posted by uk_redwing on 17 July 2014 - 02:25 PM

Callahan>Cleary.

 

We'll lose him to waivers.




#2531832 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by 55fan on 12 July 2014 - 12:31 PM

 

Holland made it quite clear to both of them, and to the fans through the media, that he only had the cap space to sign one of them, and whichever signed first would get the contract.  Franzen signed first, Hossa landed on his feet.

Franzen jumped first, for which I don't blame him.  He was coming off a season that few had predicted.  Hossa was coming off yet another good season.  His playoffs were bad due to injury.  I don't remember when it was that Franzen re-signed, but I thought it was a great deal at the time.

 

Hossa knew he could make more elsewhere, even though he'd probably have stayed if the money was right.  Franzen wasn't sure if anyone else would offer that plus he wanted to stay in Detroit. (The part about Hossa is a guess.  The part about Franzen was what I remember him saying, but after this amount of time, I have no link for it.)

 

As to the direction of this team, I'd say it's getting younger, but still with some veteran presence.  If this means a lag whilst the young guns get a couple years of experience under their belts, than it is what it is.  I just hope they don't wait until Kronner, Dats, and Z are old to get another Cup.




#2531926 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by Ekmanc on 13 July 2014 - 09:59 AM

I don't know what there is to be confused about, we have absolutely no direction...