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#2682571 This year vs last year: a poll

Posted by krsmith17 on 07 July 2016 - 06:16 PM

It starts with roster management by Holland, alleviating some of this log jam. Then it's Blashill's job to ice the right players and find line combos that work. I'm not sure I have full confidence in either right now... The coaching staff looks to be much improved, hopefully they can get the special teams figured out...

#2682230 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 05 July 2016 - 06:46 AM

I agree with Dabura that Jurco / Pulkkinen are far superior than Miller / Ott, even in a 4th line role. I would much rather have players on the ice that I'm hoping will score, rather than players that I'm hoping won't get scored on... These "defensive players" are good at one thing, and that's providing defense, aka chasing the other team around the defensive zone and blocking a scattered shot... Sure, they're decent penalty killers, but there are so many other options on the team that are just as good or better in that role.


I'm not a huge Pulkkinen fan by any stretch, but he isn't the defensive liability that some make him out to be. His giveaway / takeaway ratio is even, and ranks around the middle on the team. His advanced stats on the other hand, are close to the tops on the team in just about every category. His corsi numbers are incredible. I get that it was a small sample size and he may have been up against weaker competition, but even so, I think it's hard to say that he's any sort of turnover machine by those stats...


Mantha will be fine. I don't think my expectations have tapered near as much as some and I still expect him to be a very good top 6 winger that will pot 25+ goals a season.

#2681706 Steve Ott signs 1 year, $800k deal with Detroit

Posted by DangleDangleBeach on 01 July 2016 - 04:50 PM

Well buffalo still needs a goalie...


I thought they were going with Lehner. If we were to trade Howard to them they would be giving up an asset just to potentially lose him in the expansion draft so for that reason I think its unlikely. Unless Lehner is exempt? Don't recall the specifics on the rules. 


Recent reports mention Kane has pissed off people in Buffalo too and could be on the outs. If these reports are true which wouldn't be surprising a deal around Howard and Kane could potentially make sense for both teams for different reasons, but that is only if they aren't losing one in the expansion draft shortly after. 


I can dream =/


As for the Ott signing... I don't hate it, but lets be honest he was injured a lot of last year and is a shell from the agitator we remember him being. He is still excellent on draws, can kill some penalties, provide some grit, but I just fear he will struggle to stay healthy again. 


Also don't understand why we need both him and miller. I get one or the other, but we have like way more 3rd and 4th liners than we really need. 

#2681728 Steve Ott signs 1 year, $800k deal with Detroit

Posted by GoalieManPat on 01 July 2016 - 05:12 PM

This would have been a great pickup 5 years ago. 

#2681551 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 01 July 2016 - 02:45 PM

Vanek signed 1 year, 2.6 million.  Holland made a second good move today!

#2681357 Frans Nielson signs 6 year $5.25m AAV contract with Detroit

Posted by GoalieManPat on 01 July 2016 - 12:32 PM

Its amazing people are banging on Holland for signing him instead of other FA's. Its like you people believe that Holland gets his choice from of all the guys available. It takes two to get a contract done. Kenny can be willing to sign a guy but if he has no interest in coming to Detroit its not going to happen. Detroit is not a prime spot for FA's anymore. We need to realize this. In order to get guys here you are seeing Kenny have to give and extra year or pay more salary. This signing isnt bad at all.

#2680911 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Euro_Twins on 01 July 2016 - 09:31 AM

I thought they traded subban because he didn't have enough leadership and something racist

#2680648 Shea Weber for Pernal Karl Subban

Posted by marcaractac on 30 June 2016 - 03:21 PM

Nashville wins. Weber's best days are already behind him, more or less. Subban is younger and, frankly, better.


Poile has basically undone the Seth Jones trade -- only, he gets to keep Ryan Johansen.


And that, my friends, is how you GM.


He got the best years out of Weber's Philly offer sheet contract, and have now replaced him with someone younger and better suited to how the game is played today. Preds fans got a lot to look forward to. 


Weber is gonna be counted on to play even more minutes in Montreal, meaning possession against the Habs will increase. Stay out of the box vs the Habs to avoid him running the pp and you're set. 

#2680071 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 29 June 2016 - 12:15 PM

There's no way you choose Okposo and Backes over Stamkos. We have more than enough depth throughout the entire lineup. You know what we lack? Elite level talent. There is only one elite level player that will hit free agency, quite possibly the best player (taking into account age) that has ever hit free agency, including pre-salary cap... You don't pass that up for two depth players...

If Stamkos signs elsewhere, then we look at other options, but you don't pass on a player of his calibre... for depth...

#2679504 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by marcaractac on 25 June 2016 - 05:18 PM

I've been reading about how Toronto is ready to throw an offer at Stamkos and even one possibly bigger than 10 mill. What I don't understand is how they can afford it. Capfriendly says they only have around 3 mill in space. Am I missing something?



I'd imagine they start by trading Lupul and Bernier. But even then they'd have to shed more salary to re-sign their own RFAs. Weird seeing a rebuilding team so close to the cap.


On the flip side, it has been 100% media and fan speculation that Toronto will go for Stamkos. Babs himself has said the time is not right to go shopping in free agency.   

#2678658 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 22 June 2016 - 07:10 PM

A slow piece of s***. But who cares, speed doesn't matter in hockey anyway.

#2678545 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 21 June 2016 - 05:56 PM

All it means is that when he's on the ice the team directs more shots at the opposing net than they do if someone else is on the ice. In this respect the stats are quantifiably true. Maybe your perception is skewed. Either way I tend to put more faith in math than I do your eyeball test. But that's just me.
What's more, when you break down his WOWY stats you see that every individual he plays with directs more shots on net than if he weren't playing with them. Its pretty iron clad.

#2678464 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by amato on 21 June 2016 - 10:15 AM

Bishop would make the flames so much better ha.. Wonder what they'd have to give up.

Holland has probably talked to any team in need of a goalie and they all have a plan A that isn't Howard. Him making the argument for keeping Howard is probably a combination of that type of knowledge mixed with trying to get mrazek signed as low as possible.

#2678136 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Euro_Twins on 18 June 2016 - 03:08 PM

Do people honestly think Stamkos will sign with Detroit? If so, what the hell for? He's basically from Toronto which, if folks take off their homer glasses, is on the rise. The Leafs have a great coach and lots of high picks in their future. Another option would be Buffalo. It's not terribly far from Toronto and is also on the rise. All Detroit can offer is similar proximity to Toronto and, aside from Larkin, a bunch of middling prospects and picks.

Larkin, athanasiou, mrazek, mantha, svechnikov, nyquist, Tatar

#2675325 Kentucky Derby: Nyquist

Posted by HadThomasVokounOnFortSt on 07 May 2016 - 02:10 PM

Pulling big for Nyquist at the Kentucky derby today. Also been seeing on social media a lot of Wings fans there.