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#2685801 2016 World Cup of Hockey thread

Posted by marcaractac on 11 September 2016 - 05:59 PM

Rooting for NA all the way in this one. I'll save my national pride for Olympic hockey

#2685721 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 09 September 2016 - 02:27 PM

lol, or the one that let it rip in the first place
But I bet that's the last face you'd like to see from your anesthesiologist before going under.


*holds up syringe*

"I brought you a *pffffftt* present..."

#2685287 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 31 August 2016 - 09:59 PM

Fowler is younger anyway, D take longer to mature, so yes, Fowler has room to improve a lit more than Tatar and Nyquist

While it's true that D take longer to mature and 24 is fairly young, Fowler's actually been in the league for six years. I think it's pretty rare someone that's been in the league that long making that significant a step up in their game. Dubnyk maybe, but changing goaltending techniques is a different matter. I guess you could count Kronwall as an example since he expanded his game when he became a 1st pair after 6 years of being a second pair guy, though I think that was more of a change than getting better.


I think it's a little ironic that you're the one making this argument since you often write how others shouldn't count the potential of certain players. 

#2685113 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 26 August 2016 - 07:59 PM

Not to mention the fact that Fowler is another 2nd pairing defenseman. We have a ton of those, we need a top pair guy...

#2684545 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Echolalia on 08 August 2016 - 12:32 PM

Sometimes I wonder if a fourth line as a designated shut down line is an antiquated aspect of hockey that's only practiced because the coaches from the last generation did it, so it must be the way to go. I would like to see four possession-based lines and see where that takes us.

#2684530 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Son of a Wing on 07 August 2016 - 09:40 PM

It can't get any worse in my opinion. It will either be the same or better. The team we have is a decent team. Just wasn't at full potential with a rookie coach. 



Omg guys Steve Ott has a better faceoff percent than everyone on our team over his career. Does this mean we should use him in every key defensive situation to take the faceoff? Should we use him when we have a 1 goal lead and there's 2 minutes left to play? Is he the new Luke Glendening? I know a few around here have praised Luke because of his sole stat of being good on faceoffs. Steve Ott is even better! (56% on faceoffs). Can kill penalties too and is "gritty". Also has better possession numbers and likes to shoot the puck rather than sit and take the shots. See below. 




But we're not getting Steve Ott as he's been throughout his career.  


We're getting him at the end of his career. 


Two very different things.

#2684511 AA

Posted by krsmith17 on 07 August 2016 - 07:16 AM

I agree that Athanasiou will likely start in Grand Rapids, and I also agree that it's not the worst thing that could happen. However, he wouldn't be sent down just so the Griffins would have a number one center. When we lost Miele, Ben Street was brought in, and he is more than capable of filling the same role Miele did for the past couple years.

I would have loved to see Athanasiou start on the big club, had we not signed Miller, Ott and Vanek, but unfortunately, I don't see Athanasiou up with the mess of this current roster. One of two things need to happen, the very unlikely trade, or the inevitable injury. I don't see a trade happening, but an injury could occur as early as October (or as late as February). He will certainly be the first call up, and I see him playing somewhere around 60 games for the Wings this year.

Unfortunately, again unless there's a trade or we're struck hard with injuries, I don't see much of a chance for Mantha either. He's likely number 2 on our call up list, and I don't see him playing any more than 20 or so games.

Both these guys are waiver exempt though, so I'd much rather send either or even both down to Grand Rapids than risk losing either Ouellet or Sproul for nothing. Holland created this mess, so I just hope he can somehow fix it, and relieve this team of this massive log jam. We have way too many good players, not close to enough great players...

#2684501 AA

Posted by kickazz on 06 August 2016 - 08:56 PM



Zetterberg  Larkin  Abdelkader

Helm  Nielsen  Nyquist

Tatar  Sheahan  Vanek

Miller  Glendening  Jurco



I bet he'll still have Larkin on Wing lol. And switch Vanek with Nyquist. Blashill might still believe Tatar and Nyquist have epic chemistry. 

#2683987 Fixing this mess....

Posted by F.Michael on 26 July 2016 - 08:03 PM

Soooo...Evander Kane anyone lol?

Only if we could have Hudler be his mentor.....Wait - what ?

#2684138 Red Wings All-Bust Roster

Posted by Echolalia on 28 July 2016 - 03:42 PM

I was at the Anaheim game where Brunner put in the game winner. It was the same game "You got Kronwalled" was born as well as "Todd Bertuzzi"
Easily the best game of hockey I've been to.

#2684199 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by DickieDunn on 29 July 2016 - 11:02 AM

I think Karlsson's +/- is as much a factor of playing on crappie teams than anything against him

#2684006 Red Wings All-Bust Roster

Posted by kickazz on 27 July 2016 - 12:42 AM


Brunner could Datsyuk. He ain't no bust. 

#2684003 Red Wings All-Bust Roster

Posted by kliq on 27 July 2016 - 12:20 AM

I don't consider Brunner a bust. Not a whole lot was expected of him and he was decently effective in his short stint with us. For a very short time, the line of Nyquist-Andersson-Brunner was kinda sorta awesome.


Probably the highlight of the 2013 playoffs.


#2682571 This year vs last year: a poll

Posted by krsmith17 on 07 July 2016 - 06:16 PM

It starts with roster management by Holland, alleviating some of this log jam. Then it's Blashill's job to ice the right players and find line combos that work. I'm not sure I have full confidence in either right now... The coaching staff looks to be much improved, hopefully they can get the special teams figured out...

#2682230 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by krsmith17 on 05 July 2016 - 06:46 AM

I agree with Dabura that Jurco / Pulkkinen are far superior than Miller / Ott, even in a 4th line role. I would much rather have players on the ice that I'm hoping will score, rather than players that I'm hoping won't get scored on... These "defensive players" are good at one thing, and that's providing defense, aka chasing the other team around the defensive zone and blocking a scattered shot... Sure, they're decent penalty killers, but there are so many other options on the team that are just as good or better in that role.


I'm not a huge Pulkkinen fan by any stretch, but he isn't the defensive liability that some make him out to be. His giveaway / takeaway ratio is even, and ranks around the middle on the team. His advanced stats on the other hand, are close to the tops on the team in just about every category. His corsi numbers are incredible. I get that it was a small sample size and he may have been up against weaker competition, but even so, I think it's hard to say that he's any sort of turnover machine by those stats...


Mantha will be fine. I don't think my expectations have tapered near as much as some and I still expect him to be a very good top 6 winger that will pot 25+ goals a season.