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#2438222 9/21 Pre-Season GDT : Boston Bruins at Red Wings, 7:00 EST

Posted by RationalHatred on 21 September 2013 - 11:13 PM

Having attended the game, this was unfortunately a bit of a snoozer. Regardless, if anyone's interested in impressions...


The good:

-Weiss looked reasonably effective and saw ice time on both special teams. He is ridiculously good at retaining possession but came off as a puck hog and needs to make better decisions on when to pass.

-Jarnkrok looked great. Played a good north-south game and was visible.

-Ditto Nyquist. He has a knack for forcing the play and created some great chances. Drew a penalty after intercepting an aerial breakout pass and giving himself a mini-breakaway. Half the crowd was hollering for a penalty shot.

-Franzen was excellent. Made some very smart, cerebral plays and put in a good effort.

-Bert did fairly well in his scrap and wanted to go again with Caron later in the game. He maintained strong possession in the zone but made a very unfortunate gaffe that ended with the Wings taking a penalty. Bert hung on to the puck too long, and when he was stripped of it a 2-on-1 was created, which led to either Smith or Ouellet taking a penalty (I forget who).

-Sproul and Ouellet were very strong after their first couple of shifts and did not look out of place at all. Both certainly have the look of future players in the league. One of the two (couldn't tell) delivered a ridiculous hip check, which may have been the only good hit the Wings laid on the whole game.

-I did not notice Quincey and Lashoff much, which I consider a good thing.

-Dekeyser was strong and appeared to be the best defenseman the Wings dressed tonight.

-Both Wings goaltenders played well. Gus was effective but badly overplayed the first goal and injured his groin attempting to compensate. It's the sort of mistake I'd expect from someone who hasn't seen much game action in a while.

-Emmerton had a strong game. I'm starting to like him.


The bad:

-The entire team struggled badly with the Boston forecheck. Breakouts were bad. It brought back memories of the early going last season. This was particularly bad for the first 5-10 minutes of the game. Several breakout attempts landed directly on a Boston stick. 

-The team didn't do a good job of getting pucks to the net. Johnson was not really challenged for long stretches. A number of opportunities came from the point, but mid- and low-slot chances were few and far between. 

-The power play was dreadful.

-Smith was absolutely horrible. He was a stumbling, falling mess and turned the puck over a few times in the defensive end.

-Cleary was distinctly mediocre, but did put in a good effort.

-Something seems to have happened to Ferraro. He was having a good game until he took a BS penalty in the first, and I felt like he barely appeared the rest of the game.

-Andersson had zero luck. He had a couple of great opportunities that he couldn't put home.

-Jurco seemed a bit lost and outmatched. 

#2438206 9/21 Pre-Season GDT : Boston Bruins at Red Wings, 7:00 EST

Posted by RaisedOnHockeytown on 21 September 2013 - 08:28 PM

Hi all, newbie here (in the metro-D for several years now, raised in a rabid Wings family with four brothers plus my dad and no sisters!). I've been following along for a few days, decided I should finally jump in - you all are busy! Anyway I just wanted to post a quick thanks for the radio links the last couple games. It was very exciting to be able to bust out my goal light remote on Thursday and actually SEE the game.  :yahoo: Nice to be here in the midst of obviously devout fans!



#2438077 NHL enforcing uniform rule from 1964

Posted by 55fan on 21 September 2013 - 08:40 AM

Heaven forbid those sweaty, bleeding guys with fresh stitches smiling through missing teeth should look disheveled. 

#2438168 9/21 Pre-Season GDT : Boston Bruins at Red Wings, 7:00 EST

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 21 September 2013 - 06:18 PM

Ken Kal's calling the game on 1270 for those who don't know and want to listen.

#2438161 Jets release Ian White

Posted by number9 on 21 September 2013 - 05:09 PM

I think it's just really bad to end up as a regular healthy scratch once your an established NHL player. I think it kind of almost black lists you. Every other team is going what happened there? There must be something wrong with him, on or off the ice. IMO, He's a decent player, but not outstanding enough, or big enough, for most teams to burn the cap on him that he probably wants.


I think the worst thing for his career was signing the length term he did with us. He came, played with Lids and did well, then as soon as Lids left he fell off. Kind of says he's been floating around to so many different teams for a reason and he only did well because of Lids.

#2438139 Jets release Ian White

Posted by evilzyme on 21 September 2013 - 02:14 PM

I just don't get the lockerroom cancer stuff.  I've never heard anything legit about it regarding White.  Same goes for him having choice words for Babcock or being unprofessional about being benched. 


Did Babcock sit someone and got mad at them because they accepted being benched?  He's a seasoned vet and was honest about not liking and being benched and wanting to play.  But I never saw anything that reached the level of what you guys are talking about here. 


I mean the locker room cancer things didn't just magically appear over night. He's been written about in books stating how much of a doucher he was. He thought he was the king bee and would talk down to other teammates, didn't think he had to show up on time, etc etc. Now, as always, these things can change over time as a person matures or just generally as they see fit. It seems like White wasn't up to his old antics during his time with the Wings franchise, but I think it's wrong to dismiss his previous incidents. As for him talking about getting sat, IIRC, he went off pretty bad at first but then re-buttled to make it sound like he was just simply frustrated. Ofcourse I can understand that he is frustrated that he wasn't playing and obviously felt like he deserved to be, anyone can agree with that motion. My problem, ofcourse, was the fact that he wanted to go to the media and talk about it. All he simply needed to say was, "i'll prove myself next time i'm in the lineup that I should remain there." Simple as that. Don't give the fans and media something to talk about, especially as a professional athlete. As towards conflicts between Babcock and White, that's simply speculative.


In the end, I always thought he was a servicable defensemen and didn't deserve the slack he got from time to time. It's hard playing hockey as a smaller figure, and even more harder while trying to play defense. Wasn't the best defender, but he could contribute from time to time. Unfortuantely, he just never got back on his feet after #5 left, IMHO.

#2438084 9/21 Pre-Season GDT : Boston Bruins at Red Wings, 7:00 EST

Posted by germanwing on 21 September 2013 - 09:19 AM

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 

Wings' group that's playing tonight vs. BOS skating. Lines: Franzen-Weiss-Cleary, Nyquist-Andersson-Bertuzzi, Miller-Emmerton-Ferraro, Jarnkrok-Sheahan-Jurco;

on D: Quincey-Smith, DeKeyser-Lashoff, Ouellet-Sproul;

Gustavsson and Mrazek in goal.

#2438025 Gallant and Barch find a way around the new helmet rule

Posted by Euro_Twins on 20 September 2013 - 08:50 PM

If they took each others gloves off would there be no penalty?


Only if they punch themselves

#2438065 NHL enforcing uniform rule from 1964

Posted by Wing Across The Pond on 21 September 2013 - 07:47 AM

It's probably LESS to do with advertising than people think (i.e. not the first step in a process that leads to sponsors on the back of jerseys), but more to do with brand presentation. *Note - Tried to find a promo/press pic of Ovie but they were all of him in game* However in all these sorts of photoshoot pics, what's the one thing you notice about the player in questions jersey? If you, as an organisation, are trying to sell your brand then the last thing you want is your marquee player, the face of your franchise, obscuring part of their jersey (in this case, their number) when he is on TV or going to be snapped for the net or the papers. All arranged photos seem to have players with untucked jerseys it seems.


Not surprising this seemed to come at the request of GMs.

#2437976 Gallant and Barch find a way around the new helmet rule

Posted by 55fan on 20 September 2013 - 03:20 PM

Helmets (especially with visors) need to come off during fights.  This is why the league should be run (and the rules set) by people who have actually played the game and not by lawyers.


Yes, it is possible to hurt one's head during a fight (see: Lilja, Andreas) but not as likely as getting hurt by hitting a guy with a helmet.


Kudos to these two for doing this and showing the league how dumb and out-of-touch with player needs rules like this are.

#2437896 ESPN Future Power Rankings: Red Wings #2

Posted by Rhah on 20 September 2013 - 08:49 AM

Anyone else bugged by us being "like" Chicago, even though Chicago copied us?


Not only that, IF they are including Toews and Kane as any part of that future score, then their statement about Blackhawks doing all their young investment without the help of Lottery picks is a blatant lie.

#2437879 9/19 Pre-Season GDT : Red Wings 8 at Bruins 2

Posted by Mors on 20 September 2013 - 07:39 AM

I'm probably a broken record when it comes to supporting Tootoo, but I thought he looked real solid last night. He was hustling hard out there, got a few good hits in, drew a late penalty while negating an icing. I'm really hoping he makes the cut, as unlikely as it may be.

#2437536 Devils sign Brunner 2 yrs. $2.5 million AAV

Posted by VM1138 on 19 September 2013 - 07:54 AM

We don't know Tatar and Nyquist can deliver. We hope and expect they can. Look, I'll miss Brunner as much as anyone. He has skill and the desire to improve. But Tatar is more well rounded than Brunner and equally driven. While it'd be nice to have two young scoring wingers, it's just not in the cards.

Point is, Alfredsson is quality insurance in case Tatar doesn't develop. Consider Tatar to be Brunner 2.0 and Alfredsson to be icing on the cake.

Tatar is the key to the season, I think. If he explodes we will do fine. If not, our offense hasn't improved much over last year.

#2437613 Pulkkinen Scheduled for Hearing

Posted by DickieDunn on 19 September 2013 - 03:34 PM

Simple rule is if you see the guy's name you don't hit him. That's all on Pulk. Pulk will get hammered because he's a rookie who has no shot at making the NHL out of camp and they can say see we do want to stop those hits. Then when a star does it or nobody is hurt they can make an excuse to let it go later in the year. What should happen is it's a suspension regardless of injury or player status, but we might as well wish that the government actually did what was right instead of what's best for themselves.

#2437530 NHL enforcing uniform rule from 1964

Posted by 55fan on 19 September 2013 - 06:35 AM

I tried explaining to a casual fan of hockey how jersey tucking is infinitely more dangerous than, say, body checking, or, say, skating on ice, or, say, falling on ice, or, say, not wearing a visor, or, say, shooting a puck, or, say, being a goalie, or, say, being a referee, or, say, sitting on the bench (pucks get shot there all the time), or, say, sitting in the stands near ice-level (falling pucks). I also tried explaining how jersey tucking is equally as dangerous (2-minute minor) as slashing (2-minute minor), tripping (2-minute minor), cross-checking (2-minute minor), high-sticking (2-minute minor), etc.


It left me wondering one thing: if blood is drawn, by a tucked-in jersey, is it four minutes in the box?

Only if it goes over the glass or happens in the last five minutes of play (unless you're a star player) or if you're in the trapezoid or if the official had the intent to blow.