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#2435473 X Factor Part Deux

Posted by Motown4013 on 08 September 2013 - 04:05 PM

I could have went with the youth movement- Danny D would have been my rookie X factor but honestly, the key to a young defensive Corp is leadership. Keeping with that theme, I chose the guy that needs to be leader on that back end so Kronner got my vote.
I think Kronwall has all the skills to be a great defenseman. I don't think I am off the mark by saying the majority on the boards, including myself saw 55 fall a bit short on taking over the number 1 last year. If he can be the player everyone is waiting him to become, Kronwall has to be the X factor. He needs to lead my example and to do that, he has to find his natural game again. That means generating a solid breakout pass, quick puck movement, contributing offense and the" super kronwalls" that put a little fear in the opposition who like to skate with their head down.
Last year he had a tendency to hesitate. He also let the puck get behind him a bit too much which lead to unfortunate penalties. He has to be better....and I think he will.
Imagine if you take the best Kronwall And allow him to teach a guy like Smith use his body and his hockey sense? If he can teach Q to find that tiny opening in the slot. Teach Kindl how to take a hit and not give away the puck. If that happens, I don't think we have an issues with the back end. That's why I think Kroonner is the x factor this year.

#2435421 Lines Thread

Posted by wings_fanatic on 07 September 2013 - 06:54 PM

Zetterberg- Datsyuk- Bertuzzi

Franzen- Weiss- Alfie

Nyquist- Anderson- Tatar

Abby- Helm-Miller/Eaves/Sammy


Kronners- Ericsson

Dekeyser- Smith

Kindl- Quincy



- I think this will make the team as balanced as possible. 

- Bert, as long as he is healthy, is better than Abby on the top line with Pavs and Hank. Bert is a bigger body, and is able to create more space for the Eurotwins. Also, Bert is a very good passer, and can contribute with goals. I think that this can be a very good 1st line if Babs keeps them together given we still have a really good 2nd line.


- I really am looking forward to seeing this 2nd line play. It has all the potential to be one of the top 2nd lines in the league, and Alfie is going to be super hungry. I see big things from this line.


- In the playoffs, our 3rd line was fantastic and at times was our best line. We are going to essentially replace Brunner with Tatar, which is not a bad thing considering what we know and have seen from Tatar. Anderson developed himself into a solid 3rd line center last year, and Nyquist and Tatar will add a nice element of speed and skill. This will be a fun line to watch and could become one of the better 3rd lines in the league.


- Our 4th line will see a HUGE upgrade this season assuming Helm is back and fully healthy. Add Abby who has some grit and knowledge of the game, and Miller/ Eaves, and you have a solid 4th line capable of doing their job well.


- Kronners and Ericsson were great last year, no reason to change that. I would like to see Kronners shoot the puck more this season tho.


- Danny D was fantastic when he played for us, and Smith could really benefit from having that solid defense presence playing with him... I would like to give this a try. 


- Kindl had a a developing year last season with his offense, but still needs to work on his defense. Quincy really settled down after the 10 game mark last year and played a solid season. I think this is a capable 3rd pairing.


Overall, I think this is our best group of forwards since 2009 when we were STACKED and I am super excited to watch this season. Come on Oct. 2nd!!

#2435360 Canadian Olympic Jerseys Leaked?

Posted by darkmanx on 07 September 2013 - 08:47 AM

These jerseys are complete ass, who did they leave in charge of the jerseys. The only thing I can relate the gold border that is around the leaf is the color of Maple Syrup.

#2435357 Lines Thread

Posted by Opie on 07 September 2013 - 07:57 AM



I know Abby finally started to play well on the top line. But let's be real, he's def not a top line guy. He should be on an energy/grit line. And even though Big Bert has had some injury issues, his chemistry with Pavel far exceeds Abby's. Hope Babcock goes with these lines.


I think this is a case of the sum being greater than it's parts.

Homer on his own wasn't a top 6 forward, but what he did as far as net front presence and puck retrieval made that line very good for a number of years.


While I think it will take Abby a few seasons ,if ever, to develop a net front presence (some guys never do). His puck retrieval skills are very good, I also think this is why Cleary saw so much time with Dats.

#2435327 Prospects Tournament

Posted by Son of a Wing on 06 September 2013 - 08:17 PM

If anyone would like to watch the Detroit vs Minnesota prospect game you can watch it here in HD.


Might not be up for long though...


#2435276 Prospects Tournament

Posted by rick zombo on 06 September 2013 - 12:27 PM

Minnesota is widely regarded as having the best prospect pool in the league. I know its just 1 game and all pre-AHL prospects, but having just won the Calder trophy I'm very excited about our future. Easily the deepest prospect pool, every player we have drafted has potential


centcougar? Is that you? :lol:

#2435242 X Factor Part Deux

Posted by dobbles on 06 September 2013 - 08:41 AM

i think there are several different ways to look at this.


but to me it has to be smith or dekeyser. we need one of them to permanently earn a top 4 spot to solidify the 2nd pairing. the first pairing was good last year. and since both ericsson an kronwall are veterans, there is no reason to think their play will slip significantly. so both just need to play this season like they did last year and our top pairing is solid. additionally, for whoever ends up in the 3rd pairing, they just need to play to that role. much less is expceted. but whoever ends up on the 2nd pairing will need to grow a lot.


because right now we hav 4 guys that all have question marks. quincey has played a lot of top 4 minutes in the nhl, but has just struggled so much since coming back. i am a quincey backer, and he did play well down the stretch last year, but i still worry if he is relied on as the 3rd defenseman. kindl had a great year last year and really showed his offensive side off. but i still worry that defensively he might be best suited for a 3rd pairing role long term. i hope i'm wrong as i really like kindl, but he would have to have another breakout year to legitimately become a 2nd pairing guy. and then smith and dekeyser i lump together. both have tons of upside. smith has yet to really look solid in the nhl, while dekeyser looked great but only for a very small sample size. so while either of them could grow into a legitimate 2nd pairing player (even as fast as this year) it is also possible they both struggle and are on the 3rd pairing or in the case of dekeyser, down in the ahl.


so thats why one of them would have to take it. as they have the biggest ability to make this years D corps a success or failure. personally i voted for smith. because we have seen such a variety in his play. so that makes him the x factor because he out of anyone has the most wide open season for expectations.

#2435243 Datsyuk Robbed

Posted by Opie on 06 September 2013 - 08:48 AM

"She could steal, but she could not rob"


Yeah and she came in through the bathroom window!!!

#2435204 USA Olympic '14 Jerseys

Posted by Jedi on 05 September 2013 - 11:59 PM

I feel like there is this evil force in the world that is trying to destroy humanity by creating terrible pro hockey jerseys but they don't know what they're doing, big picture-wise. Sort of like the underpants gnomes.


That's about par for the course for Nike.

#2435174 Lines Thread

Posted by Euro_Twins on 05 September 2013 - 07:09 PM

Lidstrom-Cleary Zetterberg








#2435168 Lines Thread

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 05 September 2013 - 06:44 PM

Franzen - Weiss - Zetterberg

Nyquist - Datsyuk - Alfredsson

Tatar - Helm - Bertuzzi

Grimson - Abdelkader - Tootoo



Kronwall - Ericsson

Dekeyser - Quincey

Smith - Kindl

#2434990 Bettman getting a raise (again) 8 - 8,3 million in 2012 - 2013

Posted by Nev on 04 September 2013 - 03:38 PM

Much as I begrudge him every penny, Bettman is a rank amateur when it comes to lining his pockets with his sports money.  Sepp Blatter and Bernie Ecclestone wouldn't bother getting out of bed for $8.3M

#2434982 Wings sign Stephen Weiss, 5-years, $24.5m

Posted by ogreslayer on 04 September 2013 - 03:00 PM

As a matter of fact, he did just that. Haha



Now if Nyquist switches back to 89, I guess I'll have to buy some lottery tickets soon.

#2435007 What forward is the Red Wings X Factor?

Posted by Motown4013 on 04 September 2013 - 06:05 PM

I really like this post....so many factors to consider! I actually think it's Gus and here is my rationale. We know the stellar career Alfie has had and we know what he brings. Weiss was a guy I have wanted since day one and he adds a depth that I love. Hank is a rockstar and Pavel the same. Franzen....well....he is like an unstable relationship that you constantly think about ending because when it's good, it's awesome and when it's bad...it's Sh#t. Gus....all the tools are there. He has good vision, soft hands and he works his Nyqvist off! The guy in my opinion could be the difference on this team, the X factor for the Wings. Put all of talent together with a healthy dose of self confidence and he can EASILY score 20+ goals. The flip side is that if he isn't prepared or gets skittish or overwhlemee by the pace of the game, it really changes the dynamics of the 3rd line!
I hope he is awesome like the player I think he can be and I hope he is the X factor for this team!

#2434997 Buffalo Sabres unveil new third jerseys

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 04 September 2013 - 04:17 PM

The buffalo in the logo looks like it got drunk and fell over, or like it's falling out of the sky and is going to land on the sabres.

I don't mind the back of the jersey at all, but it seems like whoever was creating it took a s*** and died before making his way to the front thus leaving the rest of the jersey to be finished by his 11 year old niece. No offense to 11 year old girls, most of whom could probably design a better jersey.