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#2533182 Dekeyser/Tatar status update

Posted by PumpIron on 28 July 2014 - 02:40 PM

im gonna say Dekeyser at 3.75mil per for 3 years and Tatar 2.75mil per for 3

Looks like i was right for tatar




#2533473 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by wings_fanatic on 01 August 2014 - 04:49 PM

Last season Howard costed us around 10 games before Jan.1st and then after that he found his game. To add to that, We missed Pav and Hank for half the season, Weiss pretty much the whole season, Helm off and on all year, Franzen was hit or miss, Alfie missed time, Danny D, Smith and Ericsson all missed chunks of time. Going into this season, with a very good schedule that we have, a fresh healthy load, there is NO REASON to think that this team cannot do substantially better than we did last year. I mean for God sake, in March alone, we litererally did not have Pav, Hank, Weiss, Helm, Anderson (5 centerman) hence why we had to trade for Legwand. I would LOVE to see how any other team in the league would fare in that situation. Lets stop being so negative and wait to see what our healthy team can do, with the kids also playing important roles.




#2533472 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 01 August 2014 - 04:47 PM

 

I like you, frank, but I just can't get behind this. You're saying that at our best - which, as 2013 showed, is really quite good - we barely squeak into the playoffs in the weak East, and, to me, that's giving the conference way too much credit. I get that there's this narrative that we're barely clinging to life and THIS is the season that the playoff streak comes to an end, but I think it's largely just that - a narrative. Had we added Datsyuk in free agency, people would be saying, "Holy s***, Zetterberg and Datsyuk?! And they've got all these young studs like Nyquist?! This team's gonna be GREAT!" In fact, going into last season, a lot of the "experts" had us down for second or third in the Atlantic. Did we learn this past season that the conference is super-tough? No, we got destroyed by stupid-ass injuries - and, even then, we still made the playoffs.

 

The Bruins are an elite contender. They're a team built to win the Cup, and I'm not sure we stand a chance against them in the playoffs even with a healthy roster. But the Bruins are the only powerhouse in the Eastern Conference. Behind them are the Penguins, who feasted on a terrible division and didn't seem like world-beaters any of the times we played them; maybe the Rangers, who were lucky to make it to the Finals and are probably a weaker team this season (losing Pouliot and Boyle and Stralman is a big blow for them and they know it); maybe the Canadiens, who were terrible for stretches this past season and are, I think, entirely dependent on their goalie (look at their roster. Tell me, with a straight face, that they're much deeper and much more formidable than us); maybe the Lightning, who are setting themselves up for great success in the future but aren't there yet and very likely overachieved this past season because Bishop played out of his mind (remember: they lost him for the first round and the Habs streamrolled them); and I'm not even going to mention the Flyers or Capitals or Leafs or Senators or Devils or Hurricanes.

 

I believe the East is wide, wide open. I don't believe the Wings are truly a fringe team.


Think of all the points we pissed away. We get a few of those back, and we're not an 8th seed.

 

I can't imagine we don't substantially improve on this past season.

 

I agree. With the state of the East and also our horrendous injury record from last season, this team is definitely capable of grabbing the number 4 seed, if not 3. While I will remain reserved until we see how the early part of the year plays out, I'm cautiously optimistic. 

 

Think about it. We've got Gus and Tatar not only starting the season on the roster, but they're both playing solid minutes each and every night. Add Sheahan into the mix, and Jurco, although he's looking like the first recall right now, pending what happens with Cleary. Even just with those 4 kids, that's a massive improvement right there. Increased speed, scoring depth and a little size with Sheahan. A healthy D and Z will be key, and getting Weiss going will really help too. 

 

Obviously there will be injuries. But if they're less frequent, and to less important players, then there's every reason to think that the Wings will at least challenge for a much higher seed, made all the more believable in my eyes by the fact that really only the Lightning got better in the East this offseason (of those that made the playoffs). 

 

Like I said, cautious optimism I think is how I'm approaching the upcoming year. 




#2533390 Samuelsson signs new contract....... with Djurgarden.

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 30 July 2014 - 08:49 PM

 

I started to actually watch every game in 07 so I've never seen him play

 

Which is what makes it ( IMO )

 

I can't put into words what you missed.  




#2533341 Samuelsson signs new contract....... with Djurgarden.

Posted by anthonyn66 on 30 July 2014 - 07:44 AM

The dots in the title..... WERE SO UNNECESSARY!!

 

Had a half second heart attack




#2533283 Samuelsson signs new contract....... with Djurgarden.

Posted by ShanahanMan on 29 July 2014 - 11:28 AM

Where's the loyalty, Kenny?


#2532911 Wings sign Zengerle

Posted by number9 on 23 July 2014 - 09:06 PM

watching his highlights I he seems like a veryyyy good first pass guy. I know we have a lot of those, but if he keeps improving I can't imagine what he could do with guys like Jurco, Tatar, and Pulikkenen on his wings. Good signing. He and Miele could end up being very good acquisitions in the near future.




#2532870 Alfie wants to play

Posted by kipwinger on 23 July 2014 - 09:57 AM

I like this. I think I mentioned a while back in another thread that we don't have any players that are consistently fighting for the tough areas in front of the net. Cleary used to be good at it, Abdelkader kinda, but his role on the team is constantly shifting. Jurco and Sheahan maybe as they continue to develop. Franzen? Lol. There's a niche waiting to be occupied, and as you mentioned, Callahan has thrived in the AHL with all the necessary tools.

 

I agree.  And doesn't he just seem like a guy that Babcock would like?  He's gritty, hardworking, defensively responsible AND can score goals now and again?  I imagine Babs says those words to himself over and over in the mirror when trying to get aroused. 




#2532868 Alfie wants to play

Posted by Echolalia on 23 July 2014 - 09:52 AM

 
I don't understand why Callahan doesn't just become the new Holmstrom?  He's clearly tough as hell, has a scoring touch around the crease, and isn't afraid to stand in front of slap shots.  Plus, he's actually good defensively and on special teams.
 
In another dimension (one where the Wings don't have Andersson or Cleary or Glendening on the opening night roster) I'd pencil this kid in as my fourth line winger, penalty killer, and net front on my 2nd PP unit. 

I like this. I think I mentioned a while back in another thread that we don't have any players that are consistently fighting for the tough areas in front of the net. Cleary used to be good at it, Abdelkader kinda, but his role on the team is constantly shifting. Jurco and Sheahan maybe as they continue to develop. Franzen? Lol. There's a niche waiting to be occupied, and as you mentioned, Callahan has thrived in the AHL with all the necessary tools.


#2532864 Alfie wants to play

Posted by kipwinger on 23 July 2014 - 09:13 AM

The Detroit Red Wings have long had the philosophy that prospects need to be "ripe" before they make the jump to the National Hockey League. That means after getting drafted, our prospects spend around 3-5 years between junior or overseas and the AHL before finally getting their shot in the NHL. This has proven to be successful for many years now and I don't see them drastically changing that system any time soon.

 

I don't see there being much of a chance that Mantha makes the big club this season, despite how highly fans, media and management regard him, nor do I think Jurco will start the season in the NHL. I'm actually a fan of the Red Wing way, of over ripening players, and I like the idea of having a farm oozing with talent. Depth is probably the biggest key to a teams success in the league today, and because of our drafting, development and ripening methods, we are definitely stacked with depth in the minors.

 

There is a reason players like Nyquist and Tatar were able to jump into the NHL with little to no growing pains, while highly regarded players drafted by other teams get thrown in the fire too early and flame out due to not being ready, and having their confidence destroyed. I'm just as excited for all these kids as anyone but I think it would be a huge mistake to throw them in the best league in the world before they're fully ready, both physically and mentally. In my opinion, on the back end, Marchenko could be ready for full time duty in the NHL, other than that I think Backman, Ouellet, Sproul and Jensen can all use more seasoning in the AHL. Up front, Jurco is the closest to being ready, but could still use another season down in the minors, along with Pulkkinen, Mantha, Athanasiou, etc.

 

Anyway, point being, I don't think there is any harm in resigning a future hall-of-famer, veteran like Alfredsson, allowing all of our forward prospects another season in Grand Rapids to round out there game. Having these guys getting top line minutes and loads of PP time down in Grand Rapids, to me is a lot more beneficial than getting 3rd line minutes and no PP time up in Detroit.

 

 

As for our RFA's that are not waiver exempt, I don't think there is any chance whatsoever that any team picks up Nestrasil, with a slim chance a team takes a chance on Ferraro, although that may be even less likely now with uncle Tony now as the assistant coach. My only fear is that we lose Callahan. The kid is coming off a career year with the Griffins, is an absolute warrior and would be a great addition to any teams 4th line. I hope Holland doesn't give any team the chance to claim him. No he's not going to put up a lot of points but I think he would be a huge loss...

 

I don't understand why Callahan doesn't just become the new Holmstrom?  He's clearly tough as hell, has a scoring touch around the crease, and isn't afraid to stand in front of slap shots.  Plus, he's actually good defensively and on special teams.

 

In another dimension (one where the Wings don't have Andersson or Cleary or Glendening on the opening night roster) I'd pencil this kid in as my fourth line winger, penalty killer, and net front on my 2nd PP unit. 




#2532861 Alfie wants to play

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 July 2014 - 08:47 AM

The Detroit Red Wings have long had the philosophy that prospects need to be "ripe" before they make the jump to the National Hockey League. That means after getting drafted, our prospects spend around 3-5 years between junior or overseas and the AHL before finally getting their shot in the NHL. This has proven to be successful for many years now and I don't see them drastically changing that system any time soon.

 

I don't see there being much of a chance that Mantha makes the big club this season, despite how highly fans, media and management regard him, nor do I think Jurco will start the season in the NHL. I'm actually a fan of the Red Wing way, of over ripening players, and I like the idea of having a farm oozing with talent. Depth is probably the biggest key to a teams success in the league today, and because of our drafting, development and ripening methods, we are definitely stacked with depth in the minors.

 

There is a reason players like Nyquist and Tatar were able to jump into the NHL with little to no growing pains, while highly regarded players drafted by other teams get thrown in the fire too early and flame out due to not being ready, and having their confidence destroyed. I'm just as excited for all these kids as anyone but I think it would be a huge mistake to throw them in the best league in the world before they're fully ready, both physically and mentally. In my opinion, on the back end, Marchenko could be ready for full time duty in the NHL, other than that I think Backman, Ouellet, Sproul and Jensen can all use more seasoning in the AHL. Up front, Jurco is the closest to being ready, but could still use another season down in the minors, along with Pulkkinen, Mantha, Athanasiou, etc.

 

Anyway, point being, I don't think there is any harm in resigning a future hall-of-famer, veteran like Alfredsson, allowing all of our forward prospects another season in Grand Rapids to round out there game. Having these guys getting top line minutes and loads of PP time down in Grand Rapids, to me is a lot more beneficial than getting 3rd line minutes and no PP time up in Detroit.

 

 

As for our RFA's that are not waiver exempt, I don't think there is any chance whatsoever that any team picks up Nestrasil, with a slim chance a team takes a chance on Ferraro, although that may be even less likely now with uncle Tony now as the assistant coach. My only fear is that we lose Callahan. The kid is coming off a career year with the Griffins, is an absolute warrior and would be a great addition to any teams 4th line. I hope Holland doesn't give any team the chance to claim him. No he's not going to put up a lot of points but I think he would be a huge loss...




#2532834 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by kipwinger on 22 July 2014 - 06:01 PM

I mostly just took that position because I wanted to call someone "soft in the head". I wouldn't care if the took a flier on Mueller if it was a two way.


#2532617 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp (Sept. 12-23)

Posted by ben_usmc on 20 July 2014 - 10:17 AM

The Red Wings have announced the dates for the 2014 Prospects Tournament and Training Camp. Does anyone have advice for attending the events, and is anyone thinking of going to either of the events this year?

 

http://www.mlive.com...nounce_dat.html

 

 

Karate Chop Ken Holland in the face and ask him what the f*** his problem is




#2532818 Hockey News: Detroit has the easiest schedule

Posted by Son of a Wing on 22 July 2014 - 02:49 PM

With the exception of Detroit, Tampa Bay and possibly Columbus, every other Eastern team who made the playoffs has taken a serious step back or are in cap hell.

 

Washington looks good on paper but they have always looked pretty good on paper. (aside from their goaltending)

 

Carolina did nothing to improve.  Islander's defence is a joke and who knows with the Leafs.

 

Personally, I like our chances....




#2532503 Babcock Interview on 105.1 this morning

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 18 July 2014 - 04:55 PM

 

That's legit, but nobody is remembering how Quenneville nearly did the exact same thing to us with those Blues teams in the late 90's that were significantly less talented than our Cup teams.  And he was coaching against Bowman. 

 

One of the reasons that I think Quenneville is a great coach?  Of the 15 times he's made the playoffs he's won the Cup twice and lost to the eventual Cup winner 7 times including three times to the Bowman Wings (widely considered some of the greatest teams EVER to play hockey) of the late 90's and early 2000's.  The best teams Babs has lost to?  Quenneville's Hawks a year ago. 

 

Before he hooked up with the Hawks though, he made it out of the 2nd round of the playoffs once in 10 years as a head coach.  Losing to the eventual cup winner in a first round series doesn't really count for much to me. 

 

Babcock took out the 2003 Red Wings in 4 games with a Ducks roster that wasn't exactly stacked with stars and got them to game 7 of the Finals.

in 2007 he took the Wings to the Conference finals, losing to a great team and eventual Cup winner in the Ducks . 

In 2008 he won the Cup

In 2009 he went through the Ducks, still a very good team, and beat Quenneville's Blackhawks (the next year's Cup winner), then took the Pens (who people here don't like to admit but were a great team) to 7 games.

In 2013 he took the Blackhawks to game 7 OT with a lineup that had no business hanging with the Hawks.

 

I think Quenneville is a good coach, but I still put Babcock a notch above him.