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#2475643 1/22 GDT : Blackhawks 4 at Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by esteef on 22 January 2014 - 08:56 PM

Quincey, if you're going for the tip, it's gotta be harder than that.


That's what SHE said.

esteef


#2475104 Lines Thread

Posted by DickieDunn on 21 January 2014 - 11:51 AM

Lol at how silly our defense point are. If you take away kronners 30 pts, thats 50 points divided by the other what, 6 guys? Weak sauce.

Chicagos defense is insane. But notice how Ottowa is at 117! Entirely because of Eric Karlsson and his 50 points. These stats are kindof flawed imo, because one player can make a huge difference, and completely change the defensive production of the team as a whole. But regardless, they do ring pretty true to the standings for the most part.

Anthony Mantha. Our next big thing!
I just want a power forward. Nash, vanek? Idk whos even available in the upcoming ufa class. We need to make a big trade for some power scoring.

 

If you think Vanek is a power forward, you need a new definition of power forward.


I can honestly say ive watched every single game this season, and i definitely agree that Tatar has a much higher point ceiling. He has that type of skill and finesse that only truly great players have. In 5 years or less he'll be a leader on the team and one its leading scorers for years to come. Book it.

 

I see them both hitting about 55-60 points regularly when they're establilshed.  Tatar will score more goals, Nyquist will have more assists and be better defensively.  Tatar is more dynamic and emotional, Nyquist steadier and more cerebral.




#2475100 Lines Thread

Posted by RedWang on 21 January 2014 - 11:44 AM

 
I think you're reaching.
 
But I'm with RedWang. Ideally, we keep them both, maybe play them on the same line. It's really too early to say one is much better than the other. If we need to part with a valuable piece, though, I'd be more comfortable parting with Nyquist. I think Nyquist has a lower point ceiling, tbh.


I can honestly say ive watched every single game this season, and i definitely agree that Tatar has a much higher point ceiling. He has that type of skill and finesse that only truly great players have. In 5 years or less he'll be a leader on the team and one its leading scorers for years to come. Book it.


#2475065 Lines Thread

Posted by kipwinger on 21 January 2014 - 08:09 AM

I don't like Nyquist in the top six.  He's not producing and I don't think he's ready physically to play against the league's top forwards.  When (if) guys get healthy I'd like to see him dropped down the depth chart, or preferably packaged with our first for a winger with some size for the top six.




#2475030 Lines Thread

Posted by RedWang on 20 January 2014 - 10:58 PM

Datsyuk may return against Chicago. Discuss.

Doubt it. Even if he did play his conditioning will be nonexistent. Remember how cold and just "off" Pav was last time coming back from injury? Gustavsson will start in net but our piss poor defense will s*** the bed as usual and we'll lose 4-1 again...throw that in with how absolutely on fore crawford has been lately and we, my friend, are s*** outta luck.

My 2 cents. Truly hoping im wrong, but wont be surprised if im not. CHI just beat Anaheim and Boston, something we prolly couldnt ever do given our current lineup.

Edit: Also, let me just say that our first line of Abby Z Nyq is terribad. (Our PPG tonight doesnt factor into the 5v5) Not producing anything at all. Nyquist can stay but Abby is not a first liner and he never will be. As a first line their play has been awful. Get him out of there. Jurco has been getting great looks and making stuff happen. If Pasha does end up playing I dont understand why we wont see:

Z Datsyuk Jurco
Nyquist Sheahan Tatar
Miller Helm Abby
Bert Glend Eaves

That is a much more offensively threatening lineup. With pure scoring in the top 6, and speed/grit/checking in the bottom end. None of this Babcock balanced lineup garbage thats perpetually losing us games (26/49 games held under 3 goals) Unbelievable.


#2475045 1/20 GDT: Blues 4 @ Red Wings 1

Posted by joesuffP on 21 January 2014 - 01:37 AM

I think if our Defense tried aiming when they took a point shot we would be a lot better off. I have never seen a team have so much trouble getting a point shot through to the net


#2475048 Leaders need to be leaders

Posted by MabusIncarnate on 21 January 2014 - 03:19 AM

Zett has 3 points in his last two games, and in an offensively slumping season he is still scoring slightly above a point per game. He is human, mistakes are going to happen, Z isn't the problem here. 

 

We can pick apart however many reasons we can to find an alternate reason as to why this team is in the shape it is in, but it continues to go back to the main reason. Injuries and commitment to aging roster players that no longer serve a valuable function.

 

Blaming individual players at this point isn't fair because we are playing at half strength. It's a constant game of shuffle and adapt as players continue to come and go. It's been the story of this season and last. Some guys need to retire, some kids need to play more, and most guys need to stay healthy for more regular periods of time before things begin to improve. It is going to be a lot of up and down until then. 




#2474996 1/20 GDT: Blues 4 @ Red Wings 1

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 20 January 2014 - 09:56 PM

I'm sof****** sick of this. I lived through the 80s please don't make me do it again


#2475015 1/20 GDT: Blues 4 @ Red Wings 1

Posted by datterberg1340 on 20 January 2014 - 10:13 PM

Maybe Kenny can steal some Russians from the KHL. The Wings have a history of stealing Russians from their native land, so this should be doable.


 

Ruthlessness. The hallmark trait of all good Hitchcock teams.

maybe he can lure Kovalchuk back over

 

git 'er done, Kenny!

 

the ruthless thing also counts for his attitude towards buffet tables




#2474998 1/20 GDT: Blues 4 @ Red Wings 1

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 20 January 2014 - 09:58 PM

I'm sof****** sick of this. I lived through the 80s please don't make me do it again

 

 

Except in the 80's, we'd be gooning it up right now with Probert and Kocur. 

 

This sorry team can't give its fans anything to root for or enjoy.  




#2474984 1/20 GDT: Blues 4 @ Red Wings 1

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 20 January 2014 - 09:42 PM

Ugh then you are super younger than me I hate my life even more now thanks a lot I was like 13 when that show started

Everything is gonna be ok.  I think you're cool.  That counts for a lot around here, my reputation is excellent.




#2474983 1/20 GDT: Blues 4 @ Red Wings 1

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 20 January 2014 - 09:41 PM

We like our team.

 

Man, I'm incredibly cynical tonight.

 

Let me give you tips.  Don't ever make that post without using this exact picture.

 

 

Ken_Holland_head_shot.jpg




#2474896 1/20 GDT: Blues 4 @ Red Wings 1

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 20 January 2014 - 09:13 PM

Hello operator I would really like to win this game please can you put scoring on the line I don't care if you have to interrupt the call he is currently on this is a medical emergency


#2474846 1/20 GDT: Blues 4 @ Red Wings 1

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 20 January 2014 - 08:58 PM

I just want to punch all the things


#2474825 1/20 GDT: Blues 4 @ Red Wings 1

Posted by aflac9262 on 20 January 2014 - 08:53 PM

Screw this passing on the power play. Aim for the protective netting!