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#2492082 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by kipwinger on 06 March 2014 - 09:13 PM

It's not that I have a problem with Legwand, he's a good player.  I just don't like what we gave up, or the fact that he's not a defenseman.




#2492364 3/6 GDT: Avs 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) Sorry Nick.

Posted by ShanahanMan on 07 March 2014 - 12:11 AM

The injuries you couldn't have predicted but that defense was awful when the season started and its still awful.

 

More than that. It's funny everyone, including management, seems to blame injuries, but even when we had a full lineup for the first 1/4 of season, we looked awful. This is a team who barely BARELY beat Buffalo and started barely .500 before the injuries started. 

 

Point is, even with a full deck our team blows. 




#2492344 3/6 GDT: Avs 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) Sorry Nick.

Posted by wings87 on 06 March 2014 - 11:37 PM

After the game Legwand demanded a trade back to Nashville.

Pay Scotty Bowman a s***-ton to be our GM. Promote Blashill.


I want Putin to be our GM, maybe he can invade the Blackhawks and take all their best players.


#2492289 3/6 GDT: Avs 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) Sorry Nick.

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 06 March 2014 - 10:59 PM

I hope either Babcock or Holland go after the season.  

 

I could care less what they've accomplished in the past.  The players don't respond to Babcock anymore and Holland hasn't made a good move in a long time.  




#2491528 Ken Holland's Moves From 2009-2014

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 March 2014 - 12:00 AM

 

Clarkson sucks. He has no hockey sense, he's been suspended twice since becoming a Leaf, and his contract is nightmarish. (And yes, I realize I'm the same guy who wouldn't mind having Chris Stewart on our team. But, see, Chris Stewart can actually produce.) Weiss is a better player, he's just been hit with injuries.

 

Well in hindsight neither of the two is a good signing so far, that's for sure. Chris Stewart didn't get along with Hitchcock him and Babs would absolutely hate each other after two weeks tops so I understand not going after him. Although for a franchise with so much resources it's a bit of a shame that we can't get any superstars to sign here or at least stars and sorry that's on Holland.




#2491273 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Playmaker on 05 March 2014 - 07:45 PM

As far as making the playoffs, it's not just a record thing, it's a business thing.  The players make no more money in the playoffs, yet the owners do.  Even if they got swept in the first round, two home games is 2+ million dollars for the organization. 




#2491251 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Nevermind on 05 March 2014 - 07:21 PM

Guess there's no such thing are free agency either, the Wings are doomed without a young center.


Elite players don't make it to free agency anymore. And if they do, it's a Parise/Suter bidding war.

Young, defensively sound, top 6 centers don't grow on trees.


#2491175 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by evilmrt on 05 March 2014 - 06:22 PM

Am I missing something or did we in fact pay more for David Legwand (a rental) than the Habs paid for Thomas Vanek?

 

Legwand probably called Holland and said he wanted to be traded there, and Holland, while playing Solitaire, asked his wet-behind-the-ears assistant to pull a trade out of his butt and here we are. 




#2491156 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by dirtydangles on 05 March 2014 - 06:14 PM

Holland is sure as hell ramping up the pressure on himself to draft a 1C in the next draft or two. This is the only way he can ever expect to survive the retirements of Datsyuk and Zetterberg and then Legwand and Weiss promptly along with them. We have NOTHING for the top 6 C outside of maybe Sheahan who may be over performing right now as we all projected him as a 3C at best. Helm will never be a top 6 C and we have SQUAT other than that. 

 

Holland better be looking to take our 1st, 2nd (if we have it) and move way up to get a player like Draisaitl or something because we are looking terrible at C depth now in the minors. 




#2490127 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by wings87 on 05 March 2014 - 12:51 PM

DON'T STOP
BELIEVING


Put a sock in it!


#2489220 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Shaman on 04 March 2014 - 03:13 PM

Well, it seems that other teams are now the front-runners for the players the Wings were rumored to be interested in, at least the high-profile ones. And the low-profile ones that the Wings were linked to have gone suspiciously quiet. If past day-before-deadline behavior is any indicator, it looks like Holland will really stand pat.

In my opinion standing pat is the worst thing Holland can do at this point. 

 

The team either has to make a commitment to making a cup run, or call it a rebuilding year and move assets for the future. If they stand pat they probably eek into the playoffs, get eliminated early and Holland praises the fact the streak is still alive and they go into next offseason in the same position they were last year.




#2489080 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by VM1138 on 04 March 2014 - 12:00 PM

If that's the asking price, I'd be strongly compelled to take it.  Only thing is, if we lose Helm for another Center, while we upgrade the position we don't solve our current dilemma of not having enough good centers healthy.

 

I agree with Holland about no rentals, but he should absolutely be aggressive about anyone else.  I'd part with picks easily, since the draft will be weak and the Wings will finish somewhere in the middle of the pack.  We have a lot of prospects, so if one of them gets us a legit top 6 or top 4 guy right now, you do it.

 

The injuries to Datsyuk and Z only make it more imperative that we make a move, not less.  Even with everyone healthy, the team still needs changes and additions.  So make them now, since there are some legitimately good choices available.  This year's deadline is better than previous ones because there are actually good players available, so don't wait for the off-season to upgrade somewhere.  

 

And as for Cammalleri, he may be small, but he gets to the dirty areas, doesn't he? And he snipes.  I think he's like Tatar. Small but he plays big.




#2488756 Trade Deadline Prediction Time

Posted by DickieDunn on 03 March 2014 - 10:16 AM

I say yes to a D-Man...and maybe a FWD if the right deal pops up.  Rumor has it that the Wings are one of 3-4 teams that are in serious talks with VAN for Kesler...but even if a Boyes or Jagr presents itself I think Holland will move on it...within reason of course.

 

Expendable: Andersson, Kindl, Quincey, Helm, Eaves, Cleary, Bertuzzi, Samuelsson.

 

DO NOT MOVE Sheahan, Tatar, Nyquist or Jurco. Thank you.

 

 

So you don't want them to get a good player?




#2488697 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by marcaractac on 02 March 2014 - 10:01 PM

I think a team would be stupid to give a 1st for Vanek without it being a conditional pick. In the end, Holland won't go for a rental. Wings landing Vanek would hinder on him singing long term. But it's already well known he wants to test the market. If he wants to play here, he'd come here this summer. No point giving up assets for him now.




#2488696 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Richdg on 02 March 2014 - 09:57 PM

If they agree to an extension when we pick them up, that is fine. But to give up anything for either and have them walk this summer, no. How much sense would it make to say.... trade tatar for vanek, and then have him leave in July? That would be dumb. I would rather trade for others-like kesler, then sign Vanek this summer as a UFA. Yes we have the cap space to do both.