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#2495452 3/14 GDT : Edmonton Oilers 1 at Red Wings 2 (F/SO)

Posted by roboturner on 15 March 2014 - 10:46 AM

We won the game. We would not even be in the playoff hunt given all these injuries if it wasn't for the coaching of mike Babcock. There is a reason he is the highest paid coach in the league and you are a fan like me who comes onto forums to talk about what we think... He clearly has far more hockey knowledge then you or I. IMO babs should be coach of the year no doubt if he gets us into the playoffs.

I hate how fans complain when we don't win, which is understandable but then they even complain when we win. I know your a passionate fan and I respect that, but have some faith in the guy who is keeping this team in the run.

I agree that he's helped us manage the injuries. But it doesn't mean we can't pick apart his (sometimes) dumb decisions. This is the same guy who wanted Cleary and Bert over Nyquist and Tatar. Where would we be right now if he hadn't changed his mind?? Where would we be if he had changed his mind sooner? I can say with almost certainty that we wouldn't be in the scramble that we're in now. (Unless you think Bert and Ernie would have put up the points to help us win games that Goose and Tats have. I can't imagine too many rational people would think that.)


If anybody around here complains after a loss, they are labeled reactionary and not worthy of giving their opinion.

If you complain after a win, you're told to shut up and ignore the problem cuz it didn't cost us the game.


Is there any time around here that people are allowed to discuss the problems of this team without being told they aren't a "true fan"?

#2495058 1-13-2

Posted by wings87 on 13 March 2014 - 11:21 PM

The Wings D don't have another gear, so when the opposing team is starting to push we have nothing to push back with. I also think that the biggest culprit, aside from poor goal-tending late in games, has been the propensity to over commit on defense as well as offense. The Wings play a relatively structured game for two periods and then, as witnessed the last several games, start getting anxious and run completely out of position. Bad defense has become an epidemic even guys that are usually pretty solid are making boneheaded mistakes. 

#2494910 If Kronwall isn't a #1

Posted by nawein on 12 March 2014 - 08:42 PM

brett, first kronwall isn't able to land weber-which is part of the point. Would the current RW's team be better with Weber instead of Kronwall? yes. much better. Our D would be better and our O would be better. That is what a true #1 provides. Yes this is a pipe dream and would never happen.

Rich, I think you're missing the distinction between legit #1 defenseman and elite, superstar level defensman. Weber is elite. Weber is a superstar. Weber is easily a top 5 dman in the game, probably top 3. If that's your cutoff for #1 guy then you're right, Kronner is not that. But if that's your cutoff, then there might be 5 in the world. Kronwall would not be a #1 on any team, but he would be a #1 on a lot of teams. As far as the Quincey comment, before you tell everyone else on a public hockey forum that they're not allowed to voice their opinion on players because they're not qualified, show us your qualifications.

#2491800 Red Wings have Recalled Pulkkinen from Grand Rapids

Posted by pucktividi on 06 March 2014 - 05:22 PM

Let's hope pulkkinen gets a hat trick and shows he can play so we don't trade him in the off season


But,but,but there are so many forwards ahead of him,you know

#2491839 Red Wings have Recalled Pulkkinen from Grand Rapids

Posted by VM1138 on 06 March 2014 - 06:45 PM

I hope he plays. Let's go balls out, so to speak. All the firepower we have should be up. Vets experience will be needed in tghe playoffs but right now if a player can score, they should play.

#2494971 Cap increase may be lower than projected

Posted by rick zombo on 13 March 2014 - 11:21 AM

I'd almost rather it be a little lower.


This will put the squeeze on teams like Minny who are looking to hoard (Vanek, etc).


The Wings will have plenty of space regardless. The lower the cap, the more chance they have to be competitive if they decide to target certain UFAs. A lower cap might actually induce ceiling teams into trading salary as well. This could perhaps help facilitate a trade for a defensemen if needed.

#2494897 Pulkkinen called up - Jurco out with rib injury

Posted by DickieDunn on 12 March 2014 - 07:43 PM




#2494864 3/11 GDT: Red Wings 1 at Blue Jackets 4

Posted by Son of a Wing on 12 March 2014 - 05:57 PM


Zetterberg and Howard willed us into the playoffs last season. We're missing our top two players (one of whom is Zetterberg), top 20 centers, one third of our most exciting line (Jurco), our backup goalie (who's been better than our #1), and Howard's mojo. Also, the shootout issues and our goal differential mean we won't win a tiebreaker.


Soooo you're saying there's a chance.....

#2494102 Is the Real Brendan Smith Finally Starting the Show Up?

Posted by NYC Wings Fanatic on 10 March 2014 - 04:28 PM

Smith is an offensive defensman; I think we can all see that in his game. I agree with Kip though, that Babs cares about defense before offense, so Smith needs to learn to take care of things on the defensive side of the puck, and adapt his offensive game without sacrificing scoring opportunities against us. He's getting better every week at this. Last year most of LGW wanted him off the team, earlier this year more folks started believing that he could be solid for us, and now we have a thread dedicated to "the real Brendan Smith" finally showing up. I still believe he has a ways to go, and ultimately see him being the Brian Rafalski that we've been missing in a couple years. Time will tell if he reaches that potential or not, but he's trending in the right direction.


I also think that "he is trending in the right direction", and I think that is a good way to phrase it. I think that with his skills, at all lower levels of hockey that he has played until the NHL, he thought of himself as somewhat of a badass - a hockey player being like a gunslinger that hasn't met his match to date. He was always mostly a big fish in a small pond, but now, he can't out maneuver the opposition based on his above average physical skills alone (skating, stick handling, etc).


The complete opposite was Nick Lidstrom, who despite a laser slapshot, relied mostly on smarts, and I think that we can all agree that he flourished this way. He wasn't Coffey fast, Weber physical, etc., but his positioning and anticipation were superhuman, and hopefully, Mr. Smith will take some of that to heart one day soon, and combine his God-given abilities with intelligent hockey. I think you can tell from interviews that he is not just plain dumb, so it must be that he still hasn't accepted the fact that the skills that allowed him to dominate at lower levels are not so unusual in the pro game. I think that (hopefully) if and when he ever catches on and buys into the program, watch out!

#2494072 Andersson breaks foot - down another center

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 10 March 2014 - 02:21 PM

At least we can call Jarnkrok up......wait

#2494071 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by kipwinger on 10 March 2014 - 02:17 PM

Yeah because the trade didn't finish and submit to the league within 1 minute of the dead line.


At base case scenario he becomes as good as Legwand is now? Yeah we really lost that one.

No I'm judging him because he didn't perform at the world cup and was a 4th line player. You know that thing were all great NHL players performed well at? That's where you get a look at your players for the first time and how they compete with and against other highly praised NHL prospects. That's where Jarnkrok lost value and its for good reason.


He didn't perform well in 19 games in the World Championships (which is made up of junior players) but did perform well in more than 19 games in the AHL (made up of professionals).  I'm not sure what your point is here?  That a couple years ago, in a small sub-sample, he didn't perform well?  Agreed.  But it's equally true that he's now playing much better hockey in a much more difficult league.


Any value he lost (not sure he did), he regained by being a stud over his last 36 games with the Griffins.

#2493751 3/9 GDT: Red Wings at Rangers

Posted by ShanahanMan on 09 March 2014 - 01:21 PM

We are generating ZERO offense.


Guess it's what happens when you play good teams. There's no way we have a chance in hell in the playoffs. 

#2493460 3/9 GDT: Red Wings at Rangers

Posted by RedWang on 09 March 2014 - 11:42 AM

Im sorry but jimmy howard is dogs*** useless.

#2493356 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by number9 on 09 March 2014 - 01:18 AM

I think we all agree the team needs a big time D-man. Especially a guy who can move the puck up the ice and put some points on the board.

Looking at SJ's contracts, I think they're going to have a real hard-time re-signing Boyle. He could be a good 1-year Alfredsson type stop gap player. Would take some pressure off Smith, Kindl, D, Lashoff, and the upcoming youngens for a year. Did I mention he's RH

#2493328 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by Nevermind on 08 March 2014 - 10:26 PM



I fully support a conservative trading philosophy. But lately, it's not like we're holding out for very good trades.


Giving up a first round pick was overpayment for Quincey even before he played a single awful game for us. And I still think Poile strongarmed Holland for Jarnkrok; we probably could have gotten away with less since Nashville didn't want to lose Legwand for nothing and he had a NTC.