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#2447688 What's Killing Our Offense?

Posted by Dabura on 24 October 2013 - 09:22 PM

Fair enough. But I don't think you can fully rate our drafting without looking at our current pool.

 

Like I said and conceded, we are in a bit of a dry spell in terms of guys who are ready to step in now (though Nyquist and Tatar are both very good pieces). But I do believe that will change in the coming years. At the very least, I don't think it's really fair to say we haven't been drafting well at forward. Given where we always draft (i.e. nowhere near the very top), I think we've done about as well as we conceivably could have done.

 

Ultimate point being: I don't feel our drafting is very much at fault re: our scoring woes. You're not going to get a Datsyuk or Zetterberg or even a Franzen every year if you're always making the playoffs. Now, a guy like Hossa - that could open up a discussion about our decisions re: free agents, trades. I do feel some of our signings (e.g. Cleary, Samuelsson) could definitely be linked to our scoring problems, if not directly (e.g. Sammy sucks), then indirectly (e.g. having Sammy means not having [insert better player]).




#2447679 What's Killing Our Offense?

Posted by Dabura on 24 October 2013 - 08:35 PM

We've drafted really well at forward, IMHO. Names:

 

Athanasiou

Ferraro

Frk

Glendening

Jarnkrok

Jurco

Mantha

Nastasiuk

Nyquist

Pulkkinen

Sheahan

Tatar

 

That's an extraordinarily good group, considering we haven't picked in the top twenty since, what, Marty Lapointe? And our D group is nothing to sneeze at.

 

All of which is to say: I believe drafting is one thing we've been getting very right.

 

True, there's been a bit of a dry spell lately, but in the coming years that will change. My only worry is, of course, the clock that's ticking on Z and D's careers. I want as many of our young guys to learn as much as they can from those two.




#2447649 What's Killing Our Offense?

Posted by Dabura on 24 October 2013 - 03:50 PM

We're currently averaging 2.3 goals per game. That's good for 23rd in the league. And that's not good.

 

But this is nothing new. So what's the deal? Is it all on our defense not being what it once was? (No Lidstrom and Rafalski means uglier movement and first passes, etc.) Is it our forecheck, or lack thereof? (We seem to be playing that one-and-done perimeter game again.) Do we just simply need a pure goal-scorer, e.g. Vanek? Or maybe a power-forward? A puck-moving defenseman with a great first pass? Is Babs just messing with the lines too much?

 

It's probably a number of things, not just one single issue. What do you think? And, since we're all Ken Holland, how do you fix the problem(s)?




#2447605 stephen weiss

Posted by Dabura on 24 October 2013 - 10:03 AM

Another thing: he's got a couple of goals. Which is as many as Franzen has. And that's while being considerably less comfortable and confident than Franzen. So there's that.




#2447597 Nyquist taking things in stride, with class

Posted by Dabura on 24 October 2013 - 09:21 AM

I'm actually starting to wonder if Babs really has any big issue with Tatar. Maybe we've been reading things wrong.




#2447594 10/23 GDT: Senators 6 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Dabura on 24 October 2013 - 09:02 AM

- WIN LOSE IT FOR ALFIE

 

- I've a new name for these godawful Wings that we see every five games or so: The Detroit Tire Fires. Genius, right?

 

- I am so incredibly bitter about this loss. Way to give all of Canada something to rub in the Wings' and their fans' collective face, you lazy bums

 

- Isn't our EXTRAORDINARY VETERAN LEADERSHIP supposed to prevent this kind of thing from happening? Along with, like, third period meltdowns against the Phoenix Coyotes?

 

- Melynk is so happy right now. Just think of that. And you owe it all to yourselves, Tire Fires

 

- Terrible. Just terrible

 

- Lundqvist isn't playing on Saturday, right? And he and the Rangers suck, right? Hey, there's another great should-win to drop. Remember: shoot straight into the chest from the perimeter and don't you dare make it to those juicy rebounds in time. Above all, make them look invincible




#2447420 10/23 GDT: Senators 6 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Dabura on 23 October 2013 - 08:07 PM

RAFALSKI!

 

Oh, did I say that out loud? I've decided to watch this game in my head.




#2447235 The DeKeyser Appreciation Thread

Posted by Dabura on 23 October 2013 - 04:15 PM

Sproul has been compared to Pietrangelo more whereas in the pre-season some of the Wings players said they thought they had a left handed Rafalski back there.  I'm going by comparables more than what player could/would/should be up.  If that is what you were referring to...

 

I think they're two of our more offensive defensemen, but that kind of thing, like anything, comes in different shades. With Almqvist, I see him becoming (and he already strikes me as being) a Rafalski-type. Which I guess makes mentioning Sproul sort of pointless, in light of the original question. But I feel like he, along with Almqvist, could possibly complement DeKeyser really well. From what I've seen of him (and, admittedly, I've not seen a ton), he's more of a "pure" offensive defenseman, if that makes any sense. I guy who can rush the puck; lay the body on if, say, he activates himself on the forecheck (big frame); really, really fire the puck, etc.

 

They're both gonna be big for us, IMHO. "Good for them, better for us."




#2447102 Brendan Smith

Posted by Dabura on 22 October 2013 - 04:45 PM

When it comes down to it, fast forward a couple years and so many people here will be pretty full from eating all that crow.

 

I've little doubt that he's going to become a dominant defenseman in this league. My concern is the time it will take for him to get there relative to the time we have left with Z and D as true forces to be reckoned with. He is (or was) one of our more attractive assets outside the core group, and if he could be packaged away for, say, a defenseman who's already dominant, I might be very tempted to pull that trigger. That's my big thing in this discussion.

 

Making it a bit easier to pull that trigger would be the depth of our blue line prospects pool. Sproul, Ouellet, Almqvist, The Rise of DeKeyser....




#2447055 Ericsson out 2-3 weeks

Posted by Dabura on 22 October 2013 - 11:55 AM

Really?  What was all that mumbo jumbo about him not missing last night's game because of an injury?

 

I BET HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A WIFE/GIRLFRIEND




#2446953 10/21 GDT: Sharks 1 @ Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by Dabura on 21 October 2013 - 09:43 PM

Also, our fourth line looked really good. I want Tootoo to stay.




#2446676 10/21 GDT: Sharks 1 @ Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by Dabura on 21 October 2013 - 01:46 PM

Y'know, scary though the Sharks are...if you take out Burns, their forward unit doesn't exactly jump off the paper and smack you in the face...

 

Hertl  Thornton  Hamilton

Kennedy  Couture  Marleau

Nieto  Pavelski  Wingels

Sheppard  Desjardins  McCarthy

 

And they're also missing Boyle on the back end.

 

So we should at least make a game of it tonight.




#2446644 10/21 GDT: Sharks 1 @ Red Wings 0 (SO)

Posted by Dabura on 21 October 2013 - 12:07 PM

With our top 2 D-men out, i dont have high hopes for this game. Id be surprised if we make it a game. That being said our upcoming oponnents are OTT, NYR, VAN, CAL, EDM, WINN. So even if we drop tns game and endup 6-4, those next 6 games should be wins. In a perfect world putting us at 12-4. More realistically 10-6 or 11-5.

 

Anything goes when it's the Wings. We could win this one 7-0 then lose the next six.
 




#2446522 Brendan Smith

Posted by Dabura on 20 October 2013 - 03:51 PM

What we really need is for Lids to sit him down and punch him in the face, repeatedly.




#2446513 Coaching Error

Posted by Dabura on 20 October 2013 - 03:08 PM

We are extraordinarily good at killing our own momentum.