While Pav, Hank & Kronner are great, Detroit simply does not have the collection of skilled assets that other players drool over playing with. The cap has made it difficult, but Kenny's philosophy has made it tougher. He has waited three years too long to address his team's needs. Now we are almost the new Calgary Flames.
Y'know, I think you pretty much nailed it here.
Briere, Hartnell, Simmonds, Giroux, Couturier...if I'm Doan or Ryan, I'm dying to be a Flyer.
Fil, Nyquist, 1st is way to much. Fil alone is almost worth Ryan other than his contract length currently.
Strongly disagree on both counts.
Bobby Ryan is exactly what we need (and have needed, for eons). Look at our top-6; we can afford to lose a couple soft skilled Euro playmakers, especially if it's for a guy like Ryan. As for the pick - we just gave one up for Quincey. You can't do it for Kyle Quincey and then not do it for Bobby Ryan. Besides, it's not like there's a strong possibility that that pick might be a Ryan-caliber player.
I like the way you discuss things. You don't personally attack anyone and you keep it on topic. But when you say that any posters here are saying "Holland can do no wrong", that's just not true. Nobody here has said that. I think most of those who may not agree with you are just throwing in other factors that also affect the future of the Red Wings and their status. Peace out.
Sorry, wasn't necessarily saying anyone in this thread is saying "Holland can do no wrong." Also, I realize I'm really sounding like a broken record, pretty much saying the same thing in every post now, and it actually kind of annoys me, so I can't imagine it's a whole lot of fun for anyone else. I'm not angry or seething or calling for Holland's head or anything like that. (Well, maybe a little angry and seething.) Point being, it's all good.
Ok, so what would you have done? Keep in mind, Suter and Parise wanted to play together, and Parise is from Minnesota, and Columbus and Nashville don't want to trade with us. Would you really overpay for Doan or Semin when we have some young forwards ready to step in and play? Why not just see what we have this season, then add to it.
I agree we need to add someone on the blueline, but if Suter would rather join Parise in Minnesota and Nashille didn't want to trade us Weber, you would you add? And how would you add?
I think it's clear that drafting and developing players is the way to go now. The way the FA market is under the current CBA, it's really not worth getting locked into 13 year deals, and making players that may not even be the best guys on your team your highest paid.
Instead of what I would've done, how about what I'd like to see? And that is: a more balanced, well-rounded, "dynamic" team - one that can, of course, play the puck-possession game, but can also change things up if that system falters.
We have skill. With the puck. When we have the puck. Beyond that, we're vanilla. We're not big. We're not physical. We're not nasty. We're not fast. We're not young. We can't punish on the forecheck. We can't play lockdown D. Our goalie is good, but we can't expect him to win games for us. Our special teams aren't spectacular.
All of which is to say: disrupt our system, and we fall apart. We have no fallback plan, no other looks we can throw the opposition. No other hats to wear.
"You say it like it's so simple, disrupting our system."
It is. Take away our time and space. Rush us. Take the body to us, hitting a man at every opportunity. Crash, bang, punish, wear down. Block shots. Box us out to the tops of the circles when we're on the forecheck. Shut down Datsyuk (he'll be battling an injury that has him at 75%, at best), shut down Zetterberg (ditto. Moreover, he's got a bad back; he can only take so much punishment.)
We've seen it done before. We saw it done again just a few months ago.
"We lost because of some unlucky bounces. Sometimes the puck luck just isn't there."
Look at the final scores of each game. It was a low-scoring, grinding, D-centric series. That's not us, that's not the game we like to play. We were forced to play the Predators' game. Defeat was, in retrospect, pretty much guaranteed - because, again: throw a wrench in our system and everything goes to s***.
We need new dimensions, new ingredients, new possibilities. Take our top-6, for example - it's basically six different versions of the same player. How about a power-forward, a guy who will crash and bang and drive to the net, a guy who won't be boxed out to the perimeter? (Nash, Ryan, Doan, Hartnell, Lucic, et al.)
We need a shot in the arm, new bood. Something to be excited about.
We need to sign big UFAs and/or trade.
Drafting? Unless we plan on tanking (or trading), we're not drafting high. And while, yes, we've found some gems in later rounds, that was when we were ahead of the curve. Now every team looks at Europe, digs for diamonds.
I like our team. We kicked the tires. Darren Helm is our big acquisition; remember, he wasn't available to us when we faced the Predators. We have to think long-term, big picture. We can't just go out and add a couple big names, that's the reality of the cap era and parity. We only have so much spending money. Danny Cleary. Certainly we have gotten bigger, tougher, younger, faster - and there's still a whole lot of time left and a wealth of options. The CBA means we're not going to see any more big deals. (Shae Weber does not exist; he is a hoax.) We like to think of our power play as our enforcer. Youth. You can't win the Cup ever year.