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#2559989 WJC 2015 Starting today

Posted by Dabura on 31 December 2014 - 07:13 PM

I think it's time to say Larkin is better then Eichel right now and I wonder if Eichel is realizing that? I don't know why you would take Larkin off the ice, doesn't make sense.


I wouldn't say Larkin's the better player, but certainly he's been the team's MVP.


I've said it before - I think there's a bit of Jonathan Toews in him. He won't be as good as Toews, but he's that kind of player.

#2559985 WJC 2015 Starting today

Posted by Dabura on 31 December 2014 - 07:03 PM

About the game - I was only able to catch the third period. Canada looked like classic Wings puck-possession hockey, US looked like...modern-day Wings hockey. Canada was incredibly dominant. They flat-out owned the puck. It belonged to them.


Larkin tho. Holy s***. This is his team; Eichel has not wowed me.

#2559980 WJC 2015 Starting today

Posted by Dabura on 31 December 2014 - 06:52 PM



Canada is up 3-1 late in regulation.


Larkin scores to bring his team within one.


Canada scores an empty net goal off a couple DeAngelo screw-ups. Dagger in the heart. Horrribly deflating. Game is over.


Larkin scores again to bring his team within one again.


Canada scores another empty net goal off another terrible turnover made by another US defenseman. Horribly deflating. Game is over.


Larkin, if I’m not mistaken, didn’t see the ice after his second goal. Granted, there were only 45 seconds left, but, I mean, c’mon. He’s singlehandedly given your team a fighting chance, twice, in the span of a few minutes. He was pumped as hell. Give him the chance to net a legendary hat trick.


Am I alone in feeling this way?

#2559840 John Scott Butt Ends Tim Jackman's Face

Posted by Dabura on 30 December 2014 - 06:04 AM

I keep reading it as John Scott's Butt Ends Tim Jackman's Face.

#2559833 12/29 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Bruins 5

Posted by Dabura on 30 December 2014 - 12:35 AM

Glendening took 17 faceoffs tonight, second only to Datsyuk who had 24. Datsyuk was a respectable 50%, Glendening won 70% of his faceoffs.  He won 12 and lost 5. 


Glendening only gets offensive zone starts 34% of the time.  That's the last amount of any regular player on the team.  So it seems like he's Babcock's guy after Dats to win key faceoffs and maintain possession of the puck, particularly in his own end. 


Glendening is the prototypical fourth-line center of today's NHL. Very limited offensive ability, but - like you said - great in the faceoff circle, great on the defensive side of the puck, and capable of keeping the opposition's best players off the score sheet. It makes sense that he'd see more even strength ice time than usual in a game where we're getting our asses handed to us. Firstly, we're probably going to be taking a lot of d-zone draws. Secondly, you want your big guns out there as much as possible, but you also probably want to keep them away from the line that the opposing coach is trying to match against them, so you try to get your Luke Glendening out against that line and your big guns out against a lesser line. That's probably going to give you your best shot at erasing a deficit.


More than anything, though, I think Babcock just trusts Glendening. He knows what he's getting from him every night, he knows he can count on him to play some very tough minutes. He's consistent, reliable, hard-working, doesn't take a shift off. He's a stalwart. When most of your guys are running around like morons (see: tonight), having a Glendening and a Miller can be a really big deal. They can set a better tone. They can help keep the bottom from falling out. Didn't really happen tonight, I guess, but I don't think he was riding his two most offensively challenged forwards because he hates offense or what have you. Mike Babcock knows what he's doing.

#2559825 12/29 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Bruins 5

Posted by Dabura on 29 December 2014 - 11:30 PM

Wings just can't compete with these big physical teams.


Your supporting evidence being what? Are we being routinely blown out by "Big Physical Teams"? Do the Kings give us all sorts of problems every time we face them? Did the Jets blow us out earlier this year? Was the original kid line of Nyquist-Andersson-Brunner completely ineffective against the Big Physical Ducks a couple years ago? Pretty much every team is bigger than the Wings, pretty much every team is more physical than the Wings - and it means pretty much nothing in terms of competitive (dis)advantages. The Big Physical Bruins have been ravaged by injuries to their Big Physical Players and have struggled. The Big Physical Blue Jackets have been ravaged by injuries to their Big Physical Players and have struggled. The Big Physical Jets have been ravaged by injuries to their Big Physical Players. The Big Physical Kings have been ravaged by injuries to their Big Physical Players. The Big Physical Ducks have have been ravaged by injuries to their Big Physical Players. The Big Physical Flyers are terrible. The Wings are a top-ten team by most measures and are within striking range of first overall, all while having a winning (if limited) record against those Big Physical Western Powers. (Remember when the Kings obliterated us a couple months ago? Neither do I!)


If we were halfway decent in the shootout, we'd be right at the top of the standings. And it wouldn't be a fluke, because, by nearly all measures, this is in fact one of the better teams in the league.

#2559799 12/29 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Bruins 5

Posted by Dabura on 29 December 2014 - 09:53 PM

Clown shoes on a drunk baby giraffe. That's all I've got.

It was boys amongst men out there. I don't even want to know if Lucic and Bergeron were in the line up. That was terrible. Boy this  team just doesn't look good right now.


Had Lucic and Bergeron been in the lineup, the Wings probably would've won. This is how it tends to work with the Wings.

#2559503 12/29 GDT - Red Wings 2 at Bruins 5

Posted by Dabura on 29 December 2014 - 01:32 PM

No Lucic, no Bergeron. If you read between the lines, Lucic is a healthy scratch. Because Prout.


Light 'em up, boys. 9-0.

#2559419 12/27 GDT: Red Wings 3 @ Senators 2 (OT)

Posted by Dabura on 28 December 2014 - 04:00 AM



OTTAWA -- Detroit Red Wings forward Gustav Nyquist skated circles around the Ottawa Senators on Saturday.


Nailed it.

#2559409 12/27 GDT: Red Wings 3 @ Senators 2 (OT)

Posted by Dabura on 27 December 2014 - 11:59 PM


#2559196 Lines Thread

Posted by Dabura on 27 December 2014 - 06:09 PM

Sometimes I think this team has too much depth, and it creates situations where guys are playing out of their roles. I hate to use the phrase "trim the fat", but I think that's exactly what this team should do going into next season. Depending on performances, I think it would be smart to put together a package for a top 4 defender at the deadline.


I'd like to preface this by saying I'm not anti-Mule by any means, but I do think that Pulkkinen, Mantha and perhaps AA will be knocking on the door soon. My ideal (and totally unrealistic, because people probably wouldn't take on Mule's contract) package would be Franzen, Helm and Smith for someone like Green or Yandle. Some might think it's a little steep for a rental like Green, and I highly doubt it's even enough for Yandle in Arizona's eyes, but I think Detroit could retain Green next season and Yandle's got term. I'd put Kindl in there instead of Smith, but that doesn't solve freeing up a spot for Ouellet, and no one wants Kindl. The best we can hope to get for Kindl is a burnt, grilled cheese sandwich. Anyway, the whole point is to free up some space - better define roles on the team. I'd like to go into next season with something like this:


Andersson, Ferraro/Burnt Grilled Cheese Sandwich



I'm sure this is all for naught, but I'm tired of seeing Helm pushed into scoring winger roles because we have proper center depth, and I think Mule becomes expendable very soon. This whole scenario might be a little kooky, but I've had like three candy cane hot chocolates, so whatever.


I dunno. I'm jonesing for a big trade, but if Helm and Franzen are our most expendable forwards, then we're in pretty good shape. And, realistically, Holland couldn't get much for those two even if he wanted to. I mean, that's not me trying to knock them, I'm just saying - I can't imagine there's much trade value between the two of them. And are we really that eager to move Helm so we can bring in...Mitch Callahan? A fourth-line winger who can't play center, can't skate like Helm, probably can't work like Helm can in a top-six role, isn't significantly bigger than Helm or Glendening, and has all of nine minutes of NHL experience? I get that Helm being pushed into a winger role is maybe less than ideal, and I get that Franzen is streaky and way past his prime, but replacing those two with Callahan and Pulkkinen doesn't really make us a better team. I know the idea is we'd be getting Yandle or Green, but, again, little trade value. If we're being honest, Yandle is going to cost at least one of Nyquist/Tatar/Mantha, and giving Franzen and/or Helm to a conference rival for a rental who's almost inevitably going to make a killing in free agency (and/or circle back to the Caps, meaning we will have given the Caps Franzen and/or Helm for nothing, unless we manage to win the Cup) doesn't strike me as smart asset management.


I think if we're going to get anything of real worth for a guy like Franzen, our trade partner probably needs to be very short on high-end goal-scorers but good enough that they're maybe one goal-scorer away from being one of the few truly elite teams in the league. So...Nashville? Ryan Ellis?

#2559184 12/27 GDT: Red Wings 3 @ Senators 2 (OT)

Posted by Dabura on 27 December 2014 - 03:58 PM

From a Sens blog:


[T]he Red Wings are probably underachieving in the standings. They sit second overall in 5 on 5 Corsi and sixth in Fenwick. The power play has had success with 24.1%, good enough for fourth overall. The penalty kill is stronger, running at second overall and 87.9%. This should be a team in the hunt for the league lead, not sitting third in the division.


From NHL.com:


The Red Wings recently did not win for six consecutive games. During that span, they allowed nine goals and and still procured four points. If that's the worst "slump" of the season, Detroit is going to earn an invitation to the tournament at the end of the season with ease.


The slump sucked, but this is still a very good team. And guess what: aside from Gustavsson, everyone's healthy.


I'm pumped.

#2558123 Lines Thread

Posted by Dabura on 20 December 2014 - 08:27 PM

I like the returrn of ZDA and the kid line. I think it's the right call. I might try swapping Abdelkader and Jurco, though. Tatar-Sheahan-Abdelkader was a damn good line for a couple games back in November, and Jurco's a possession monster no matter who he's playing with and against.

#2558113 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by Dabura on 20 December 2014 - 06:36 PM

Sending a message, lol.



#2558001 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Dabura on 19 December 2014 - 10:22 PM

Really bad game. Need to manage the puck way better, shoot it way more. Just awful, awful decisions with the puck.


This is no longer just a slump. This is the players not bringing their A game and really bearing down.