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#2619171 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by Vladinator16 on Yesterday, 11:19 PM

Lol at people saying 3 or 3.5 million, no way he gets anything under 4.5. Back  to back near 30 goal seasons and back to back to back seasons of being one of the teams top scorers he's well worth 4.5+. We're lucky he's an RFA and not a UFA because there are teams out there that would offer 5+ easy. 

 

Everyone in this thread has come to accustomed to Kenny and his lowball "market value" offers, fact is good players get paid and Goose is a good player. 

 

Saad, age 22, 23G 29A 52 PTS - 6M 

O'Rielly, age 24, 17G 38A 55 PTS - 7.5M

Kadri, age 24, 18G 21A 39 PTS - 4.1M

Nyquist, age 25 27G 27A 54 PTS- ???

 

 O'Rielly and Saad being comparable to Gooses productivity and Kadri being slightly below Gooses productivity (Kadri's never scored more than 20) it's easy to say goose is a 4.5M+ player. 

 

If you had to go to Free Agency to replace Gooses productivity it's going to cost 5 Million plus for a near 30 goal 50+ points scorer. 




#2618772 Tj oshie to washington

Posted by Richdg on 02 July 2015 - 05:11 PM

Oshie is a very overrated player. 7 full years in the NHL only scored 20+ goals once-21. Those are 3rd line numbers not top 6. Big and growing cap hit as well. He is great in shootouts however.

 

Now why did the Blues do this deal? they wanted to become a faster team. so they trade a guy with good speed for a guy with none.... odd......




#2618757 Tj oshie to washington

Posted by Euro_Twins on 02 July 2015 - 04:13 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't think oshie is that great? Brouwer is bigger puts up more goals and has a smaller cap hit.

I wouldn't trade Abby for oshie sorry.


#2617640 Weiss bought out (confirmed)

Posted by Buppy on 30 June 2015 - 05:46 PM

...Nyquist will get a contract similar to Tatar

 

I really hope so.  I am not saying he is bad or not an important part of our future, just needs to make it easier for us to keep our players together and be able to grow together.  Sign a 2-3 year at $2.75M each and then if he scores 25-30 in each of those season's, give him a big deal.

When Tatar signed he'd played one season and scored 19g, 39p. Nyquist has played 2 seasons, scoring 28g, 48p and 27g, 54p. He should and almost certainly will get more than Tatar. ~$4.5 range I would guess, around 5 years. I would much rather have that than a 2 yr cheap deal (when we don't need to be cheap) after which he'd be unrestricted.




#2555154 All-Star voting

Posted by WhiteLightning91 on 09 December 2014 - 09:43 PM

I would much rather none of the Wings go. Rather, they should enjoy a relaxing vacation or rest an injury. Taking part in the NHL sponsors weekend long circle jerk that is the All Star game seems counter productive.

Can we cast negative votes for the Wings somehow?


#2541406 10/15 GDT : Bruins 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by HelmFan on 15 October 2014 - 10:01 PM

I can not believe I didn't see Nyquist on the power play in OT.




#2541196 10/15 GDT : Bruins 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by MTU_Huskies963 on 15 October 2014 - 09:14 PM

Not a good turnover by Z there


#2541098 10/15 GDT : Bruins 3 at Red Wings 2 (SO)

Posted by frankgrimes on 15 October 2014 - 08:41 PM

Oh my god guys, its the 2nd period of game freaking 3... chill


For a team fighting to tread water every point is important so that means points in October are equally important as those in April.

The Bruins can afford to take it slowly because they are still good enough to go on huge point streaks.


#2540748 Monthly schedule wallpapers?

Posted by Euro_Twins on 15 October 2014 - 05:06 AM

http://www.mw32.com/ is the best (sorry Matt yours got to be too busy for me and you weren't really interested in suggestions.....which is fine)
plus the guy at monkeywrench does all Michigan area teams, like the Griffins.


Those are some awful looking calendars.


#2529166 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by Jesusberg on 01 July 2014 - 09:04 PM

You know, it really amazes me how quickly everyone seems to just want to fire KH and blow up the ship. And because of what exactly? We re-signed a guy who played well for us in the second half and has a proven track record of being a solid 3-4 D man. So we didn't sign any big name free agents, and? Did we really want Boyle here for 3 years? No. Orpik for 5 years and $5.5m? No. Niskanen for 7 years? I didn't. Stralman for 5 years? No. The list goes on and on. Guys who are cashing in on one or two good years (besides Boyle) and using the thin market to drive up their prices. It is frankly, a joke. The worst thing the wings could have done was to sign someone like that for a massive term which locks us in, blocking the path for 1 or 2 kids when they are ready either this season or next. 

 

Why is it that we are so quick to lambast something that we don't like, yet it takes 100 things to satisfy us? I mean, for crying out loud, we're not the Leafs. It's not like we haven't won a cup in the last 50 years. And also, it's not even like we're not competitive anymore. This team was a playoff team. Granted, the last 2 years have been touch and go, but 2 years ago we took the cup champs to 7 and had them on the ropes. In that 2012-13 roster, there were 26 players who were part of this seasons roster. 26!!!!!!!! And this season, most were injured, and yet somehow, due to some strong play of guys who will form the future of this team, we made it in. 

 

There is, quite clearly, a rebuild in progress at the moment. And it amazes me how people can't seem to get excited about the future prospects of Dekeyser, Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Jurco, Sproul, Marchenko, Ouellet, Mantha, Mrazek. Combined with a healthy D and Z and the other GOOD pieces we have on this team. So what's changed? Why has everyone become so despondent, when really, I think our time is coming right around the corner. Maybe not this year, but the year after for sure. If our kids continue trending upwards, we'll be right up there. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to ignore the obvious positives that are emanating from this teams future and insist on throwing everything out in the trash just because we struck out on 1 day of the year is, in my eyes, nuts. 

Honestly, I don't disagree with you on several of these points. However, in my opinion, there's very little to like about signing Kyle Quincey. Many people (including myself) were advocating a stop-gap, someone to let the kids slip into the line-up without them being overwhelmed. At the very least, those stop-gaps brought something extra to the table - Boyle and Gilbert could help the PP, Stralman and Morris the PK. What does Quincey bring? Dead serious, I don't have a real answer to that question, no matter how hard I try.

To call the guy a solid #3-4 defender just doesn't ring true to me. He doesn't put up points, he doesn't hit or block many shots. He takes several, poorly timed penalties. To his credit, the guy's swept a few pucks out from right in front of the goal line, but all in all, I'd say Kyle Quincey is just... there. He exists and has the physical endurance to play "top 4 minutes" on this team, and he was given a raise?

I think the real issue behind the signing is that it comes off as a panic move - it feels like it was made to just barely cling on, to "play it safe". I think playing it safe would have been grabbing Boyle, Gilbert, Morris, etc. I know those guys didn't want to be here, wanted term, etc. but grabbing Kyle Quincey strikes me as playing it scared. It reminds me of grabbing Legwand because Holland needed this team to squeeze into the post-season.

I see the positives going forward - I see the youth of this team and the defensive core that is shaping up. What I also see is that Kyle Quincey is a bane on this team's blueline - he's not going to pass anything onto the kids, and he won't be adding anything positive to this team's defense corps for the next two seasons. He doesn't ruin this team's future - he just wades in the water doing nothing around it.




#2529106 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 01 July 2014 - 08:13 PM

You know, it really amazes me how quickly everyone seems to just want to fire KH and blow up the ship. And because of what exactly? We re-signed a guy who played well for us in the second half and has a proven track record of being a solid 3-4 D man. So we didn't sign any big name free agents, and? Did we really want Boyle here for 3 years? No. Orpik for 5 years and $5.5m? No. Niskanen for 7 years? I didn't. Stralman for 5 years? No. The list goes on and on. Guys who are cashing in on one or two good years (besides Boyle) and using the thin market to drive up their prices. It is frankly, a joke. The worst thing the wings could have done was to sign someone like that for a massive term which locks us in, blocking the path for 1 or 2 kids when they are ready either this season or next. 
 
Why is it that we are so quick to lambast something that we don't like, yet it takes 100 things to satisfy us? I mean, for crying out loud, we're not the Leafs. It's not like we haven't won a cup in the last 50 years. And also, it's not even like we're not competitive anymore. This team was a playoff team. Granted, the last 2 years have been touch and go, but 2 years ago we took the cup champs to 7 and had them on the ropes. In that 2012-13 roster, there were 26 players who were part of this seasons roster. 26!!!!!!!! And this season, most were injured, and yet somehow, due to some strong play of guys who will form the future of this team, we made it in. 
 
There is, quite clearly, a rebuild in progress at the moment. And it amazes me how people can't seem to get excited about the future prospects of Dekeyser, Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Jurco, Sproul, Marchenko, Ouellet, Mantha, Mrazek. Combined with a healthy D and Z and the other GOOD pieces we have on this team. So what's changed? Why has everyone become so despondent, when really, I think our time is coming right around the corner. Maybe not this year, but the year after for sure. If our kids continue trending upwards, we'll be right up there. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to ignore the obvious positives that are emanating from this teams future and insist on throwing everything out in the trash just because we struck out on 1 day of the year is, in my eyes, nuts. 

It's because ever since the Salary Cap, Holland has consistently either been afraid to pull the trigger on the top free agents, or been unable to land the top free agents and create a franchise that players want to play for. Sure he has had to deal with losing some of the greats (aka Lidstrom) but he has been content with keeping this team a competitive first round team while our super star players continue to age. He is a GM that was spoiled early in his tenure when everyone wanted to come here and take a pay cut pre-salary cap and now does not know how to handle when the big fish no longer want the lure.


#2528586 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by MasterPavel on 01 July 2014 - 04:01 PM

Blah. I'm pissed. Literally, no one wants to sign here. I bet you Holland did offer him the same amount but he didn't want to come here. Can't keep blaming Holland. We're not a destination anymore. 


That is a perfect reason to blame him. Why aren't we a destination anymore? Probably falls on the GM not making the team a legit contender since 2010 right?


#2505925 4/4 GDT - Sabres 2 at Red Wings 3

Posted by dirtydangles on 04 April 2014 - 07:31 PM

Why won't CLB just F-off?




#2503484 Injury Updates

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 30 March 2014 - 11:26 AM

Abby is comin back tonight , who will sit to accommodate his return?


Hopefully Bert


#2503343 3/29 GDT - Red Wings 4 at Maple Leafs 2

Posted by Cloune on 29 March 2014 - 08:39 PM

Brendan Smith +10