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#2017125 Loophole

Posted by wings87 on 19 July 2010 - 11:20 PM

I really hope the NHL closes the loophole which allows teams to give ridiculously long contracts, such as Kovalchuk's 17 year deal, to save cap space.

Instead of averaging the yearly salary, the cap hit should be whatever the player makes that year. These contracs are getting ridiculous, and that includes Franzens 11 year deal.

Anyway thoes are my thoughts, What do you guys think would you like the NHL to step in and put a stop to the madness.

#2017041 Kovalchuk Re-Signs with Devils

Posted by Buppy on 19 July 2010 - 08:35 PM

Ya think Zetterberg is gonna play til he is 41 or Hossa til he is 43? f*** NO.

Zetterberg will be 40 in his final year (as will Franzen and Lecavalier). Hossa and Pronger will each be 42. Luongo will turn 43. Kovy will turn 44 in his final year. These deals keep getting more and more ridiculous.

It's pretty rare for players to reach 40, with only around 60-70 players in history doing so. (It is getting a bit more common though, about 20 of those from the past decade.) I think it's under 20 have played at 42. Only like 7 players in history have made it to 44.

And 6 garbage years tacked on at basically league minimum. It's such a clear attempt at circumvention they should remove Lamoriello from the HHOF. If the league doesn't step in here and deny this deal, they should just get rid of the cap altogether. I'd expect a 20+ year deal for Parise next year.

#2016997 Kovalchuk Re-Signs with Devils

Posted by Guest on 19 July 2010 - 06:28 PM

Well its kind of a good and bad. What it was supposed to do was eliminate players structuring weird deals where they made a lot one year or another to manipulate the cap. For example having a great player, lets say Kovy, sign with Detroit making $3M this year and then kicking his salary up to $7M next year in anticipation of Lids retiring and the Wings having a lot more space. You lock the player up but may not have a big cap hit in certain years.

Normally it is not near as big a deal to have an average cap hit as it is with this contract and there are rules regarding how much the player's salary can drop from year to year, but the longer the deal the more you can pay high but stretch it out over long term to minimize the cap hit. If players play out the whole contract there is no real problem it is when, like here, no one believes Kovy will play until he is 44.

Ya think Zetterberg is gonna play til he is 41 or Hossa til he is 43? f*** NO.

#2016675 Osgood may retire following this season

Posted by WizardOfOz30 on 19 July 2010 - 07:32 AM

Shortly after Osgood got sick, he started in a game against Nashville, and won 3-2.

Who was in net THE NEXT THREE GAMES after that win? Do you honestly think Osgood was given much of a chance at that point?

That was my point, he wasn't given a chance to prove himself when he did not get consecutive starts. I understand they wanted to go with the hot goalie because of the position we were in, but Babcock is very lucky that Howard didn't have an injury late in the season because we didn't have a reliable back up goalie to go to and that was not Osgood's fault. He could only do what he could at practice, it's not the same as playing in games.

#2016632 Hawkeytown? ...barf.

Posted by EZBAKETHAGANGSTA on 18 July 2010 - 09:31 PM

Except you do. Carry on.

Go away and leave him alone. Every team has their share of dumbass fans. If you don't believe me, spend more time on this site.

Not saying they are trying to be like Detroit, though the Bowman's obviously brought their fondness for Swedes over to Chicago.

I disagree with you on the cup thing. The Hawks are stacked with prospects and the core is set. While this upcoming season very well could be rough. In 2-3 years when these guys all come up it will be fun. There's a lot of top 4 defense and top 6 forward prsospects in the pipeline, and all of them will only need to fill bottom pair or 3rd or 4th line roles. The Hawks will be ridiculous in a few years IMO.

Have to agree with this to an extent, though another mass exodus will cleary happen again due to Hossa and Campbell's overdone contracts.

#2016571 Osgood may retire following this season

Posted by thedisappearer on 18 July 2010 - 05:29 PM

Because Babcock refused to play him which prevented him from getting that playing time to improve his numbers. He didn't have a chance to prove himself because he'd only get a game here or there, even when he got a win, the next game went to Howard.

We weren't exactly in the position to give him plenty of time to round into form last season, though.

#2015638 Jimmy cracks top 10 goalies in NHL

Posted by SouthernWingsFan on 15 July 2010 - 09:19 PM


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#2014220 Osgood may retire following this season

Posted by SouthernWingsFan on 12 July 2010 - 08:06 PM

As for the whole Osgood/Babcock and getting treated unfairly or whatever, it wouldn't surprise me, but nobody knows what's going on behind closed doors so life could be peachy neat between the two of them for all we know.

As for this past season, sure I would've like to have seen Osgood play more, but given the situation - Howard doing very little to justify getting benched on a consistent basis after Osgood went down with the flu or injury or whatever in December and the Wings having the unusual part of fighting tooth and nail for a playoff spot, Howard was going to be the guy unless he absolutely s**t the bed. Sure he did it here and there and for a game or two in the playoffs, but you can pretty much put any goalie on a list who does that from time to time, even the great ones like Hasek or Roy etc.

It wouldn't been great to see Osgood play a bit more, but the handling of goalies and what not was not the end of all end things that cost the Red Wings this season or the playoffs, it didn't really play much of a factor as some might want to believe.

I'd love to see Osgood play for a few more seasons.

#2013425 Kovie

Posted by ShanahanMan on 10 July 2010 - 06:52 AM

100 million? Christ that's a lot. I would think that after his disappointing run with New Jersey, his value would have decreased a bit. Apparently not.

#2012905 Red Wings Making Play for Modano

Posted by Kira on 09 July 2010 - 12:05 AM

I can't wrap my head around the concept of him on this team. Hang 'em up, Mike. Sorry, but it's past your time to go.

#2010505 Getflaf for Zetter

Posted by The Secret on 05 July 2010 - 03:39 PM

Trade... Getzlaf's game is too big to turn down. Nothing against Z but I'd have to make this trade. Getzlaf is unstoppable!

#2012053 Nabokov leaves the NHL, signs with KHL

Posted by IceMunkee on 07 July 2010 - 01:48 PM

Wow! I did not this coming. So long Nabs. Have fun never winning the most covenent trophy in the world.

#2011803 Red Wings Making Play for Modano

Posted by uk_redwing on 07 July 2010 - 09:13 AM

UK do you know what I read from your posts right now!

Dont care.

#2011064 Red Wings Making Play for Modano

Posted by redwingfan19 on 06 July 2010 - 10:56 AM

so 3 other teams interested in modano eh? hopefully they offer more to him than the wings and he chooses to go elsewhere

#2010865 Red Wings Making Play for Modano

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 05 July 2010 - 10:44 PM

Grit and nastiness is overrated in hockey,right guys?