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#2302707 #8 Los Angeles Kings vs. #3 Phoenix Coyotes

Posted by Dirty Dangle on 22 May 2012 - 11:38 PM

The linesmen have decided to join in on the horrible officiating.

Not a knee-on-knee hit. Violent? Yes. Penalty? No.


#2300948 Franzen has a broken nose ?

Posted by scotty7 on 13 May 2012 - 06:43 AM

Typical Franzen. Notice the cross check he performs before the love tap (spear). I don't feel sorry for him as he brings it on himself. Players don't respect guys who start sh.. and won't back it up or feign injury. Then one wonders why he gets his nose crumbled like a cheap cookie? Good for Kalinin. Franzen is a joke.


#2300847 Franzen has a broken nose ?

Posted by GoalieManPat on 12 May 2012 - 12:16 PM

Maybe he'll get his work ethic knocked back into him.


#2297762 Johan Franzen wants to 'have more fun'

Posted by Doc Holliday on 27 April 2012 - 11:24 PM

So instead of pointing this out in the media after they were dropped in the 1st round why didn't he try to change this by his play on the ice?


Nobody other than three players on the Red Wings roster did. He was asked a question, and mentioned what he noticed of the team, himself included.

You guys make it seem like he went to the media and started to cite reasons why he specifically played poorly. He knows he didn't play up to par. Everyone knows that. The team played terrible. Everyone knows that.

People just want to read what they want to read and use it to knock down or prop up players they like or dislike. It's nothing new.

Closer to 40 than 25-30 is what I said. And no, closer to 40 than 25-30 for a guy getting paid $5.25 million/season, averaging $3.9 million over the length of 11 seasons. The point of a front loaded contract is to lessen the cap, but that doesn't mean he is expected to only perform his cap hit, otherwise what happens when he declines like he has already been trending to do? If he is worth $3.9 when he is making $5.25, what happens in 2-3 seasons? or 5? or 8?

Franzen isn't exactly a burden on our cap (in fact we may have an extra couple million or so that could sign a Parise or Suter this offseason based on the cap decrease), so I'm not sure why people are getting grumpy. Nothing stopped Detroit from signing a dynamic scorer other than the market last year.


The guy was essentially franchised. How long is the cap hit going to be excuse for not keeping up his part of the bargain and phoning it in? Honestly, if his scoring didn't improve a single point, but he checked, and skated, and WORKED consistently, folks would get off his back, but he doesn't. What kind of numbers do people think he would put up if Babcock finally demoted him for his laziness, and his ice time and linemates matched his effort? Hell, he finally got said demotion to the 4th line, in the 3rd period of the elimination game :angry:


Do you think any of his less skilled linemates could match his numbers with the increased defensive pressure and ice time? I understand the desire to put Nyquist up there but there is a difference between being slotted into the first line for a temporary period and doing it consistently over an 82 game season.


#2297696 Johan Franzen wants to 'have more fun'

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 27 April 2012 - 08:23 PM

40 goals for a $3.9 million cap hit?

Closer to 40 than 25-30 is what I said. And no, closer to 40 than 25-30 for a guy getting paid $5.25 million/season, averaging $3.9 million over the length of 11 seasons. The point of a front loaded contract is to lessen the cap, but that doesn't mean he is expected to only perform his cap hit, otherwise what happens when he declines like he has already been trending to do? If he is worth $3.9 when he is making $5.25, what happens in 2-3 seasons? or 5? or 8?

The guy was essentially franchised. How long is the cap hit going to be excuse for not keeping up his part of the bargain and phoning it in? Honestly, if his scoring didn't improve a single point, but he checked, and skated, and WORKED consistently, folks would get off his back, but he doesn't. What kind of numbers do people think he would put up if Babcock finally demoted him for his laziness, and his ice time and linemates matched his effort? Hell, he finally got said demotion to the 4th line, in the 3rd period of the elimination game :angry:


#2297689 Johan Franzen wants to 'have more fun'

Posted by Doc Holliday on 27 April 2012 - 07:51 PM

Seeing Franzen in the last few seasons, whether he is drawing the tougher defensive match-up or not thanks to being on a line with Datsyuk, its not like the guy is spending all his time checking and back-checking. In fact, I don't think I've seen him do so in a long time. He floats, offensive zone or defensive zone. He stops doing that and THEN his production, and really, his overall effectiveness will increase.

I agree, he would be great in a complimentary role. Unfortunately, the guy was signed to an 11-year contract expecting him to be closer to 40 goals than 25-30 while continuing to do the things that got him on the team in the first place. He has done neither.


40 goals for a $3.9 million cap hit?


#2295011 Babs calls out Kenny, sort of!

Posted by RusDRW on 21 April 2012 - 05:12 AM

People around are screaming "Rinne won this series"... I don't agree. It is our forward depth that did not exist. This is partially on Kenny (someone like Umberger or Vermette would have been excellent addition) and partially injuries to Helm and Eaves. Our D and G were actually fine. Almost all games were decided by 1 goal and Jimmy didn't let more than 3. For example, the following offense roster would have taken us further to the second round, we didn't simply had good 3rd and 4th lines...

Franzen - Datsuyk - Bertuzzi
Hudler - Zetter - Filppula
Cleary - Vermette - Abdelkader
Holmstrom - Helm - Eaves

(Nyquist)

similarly, you may take out Vermette and put Umberger on the second line instead while delegating Fil to center the third one.

just one trade for semi-good player and absense of injuries. This happens. I'm dissapointed though.

the worst thing is that our leaders are now one year older.


#2291923 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by korrowan on 18 April 2012 - 12:28 AM

This team is boned. Holland resigned Bert which was a huge mistake as he has done nothing but that so called fight against Weber. Franzen is useless and for being this big time playoff guy has done squat in the last 2 playoffs. If Lids leaves this team becomes seriously mediocre and I doubt Holland will be able to get anyone like Suter or Parise as any FA would obviously see the ship is sinking. Making the playoffs is meaningless if you just squander you opportunities not only at the end of the regular season but then in the playoffs. This team needs kids that have passion like many other teams have. All these old guys they keep resigning will get them no where.

When the Predators scored the first goal tonight I wanted to hang myself for recording this game and staying up late to watch the Wings fail to finish for 2 periods and then hand the Predators the game...again even though I know that is par for the course.


#2279924 What's Kenny Holland's Offseason Plan?

Posted by esteef on 07 April 2012 - 06:06 PM

He'll pick up no one and say "I like our team".

esteef


#2292042 WCQF Game Four GDT : Predators 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Nightfall on 18 April 2012 - 07:58 AM

After glancing over the comments here in this thread, I am glad about one thing....

That the Red Wings Management is in charge of this team.

Does the team need some change? You bet it does, and Holland will make the changes necessary to make them competitive. People soon forget the 4 cups in the last 15 years, which is more than any other team in the NHL has gotten in that time. Wings fans are spoiled, and they expect a championship every season. That kind of thing doesn't happen every year though. People still get all giddy when they think about the team we had in 2002 and how that was a guaranteed cup win, and yet that team was almost eliminated by Colorado in the WCF. Vancouver kept the same team as last season, thinking that they were going to be able to make it to the cup finals again, and that didn't work out. Hell, everyone was banking on Pittsburgh doing some good and look how that series is turning out.

Getting through the playoff grind takes more than skill. It takes some puck luck, which the Wings haven't had this series, and health, which the Wings have also not had this series by losing Darren Helm.

I am not going to blame Holland or Babs for these losses. The team is just what Holland built. A team that was at the top of the NHL before they hit the injury bug. No depth? You are right about that. The Wings should have signed players in the offseason to address the depth. The cost in draft picks to be active at the trade deadline were ludicrous. I wouldn't have spent that much to give away our futures.

In the end, the Wings may be done this series, and if they are Holland and company will go back to work. Next season, we will have new players and make a 23rd consecutive playoff appearance. We may even be #1 in the NHL again which the fans here will be raving about. Then, in the playoffs (1st or 2nd round), we will be out of it again and everyone will be screaming for the heads of the coaching staff and management team. Because here in Detroit, its either cup or failure. Those are pretty lofty standards.


#2288347 #5 Philadelphia Flyers vs. #4 Pittsburgh Penguins

Posted by MidMichSteve on 15 April 2012 - 05:15 PM

Damn, it's over. :angry:


#2288112 #5 Philadelphia Flyers vs. #4 Pittsburgh Penguins

Posted by Dirty Dangle on 15 April 2012 - 03:15 PM

I don't believe he meant that incident. Oh, btw, Schenn is back out there and that's good. So should Ashamn get a suspension because Schenn "didn't" get hurt????? I do realize it is a match penalty, btw.


The NHL suspends the result, not the action, so according to the NHL, Asham will just be fined.


#2288065 #5 Philadelphia Flyers vs. #4 Pittsburgh Penguins

Posted by sputman on 15 April 2012 - 03:02 PM

asham suspension, for sure.


#2280586 Dan Cleary openly admits to being at 50%

Posted by NBCnothingbutcrosby on 09 April 2012 - 03:12 PM

Says he's going to play... WTF. You're at 50% you fricken moron, you're doing more harm than good!!!! I'm livid.


#2279841 Wings meet Preds in First Round

Posted by Electrophile on 07 April 2012 - 03:14 PM

God, this is going to be ugly.