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#2335572 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by Learn2LuvIt on 07 December 2012 - 12:10 PM

After reading/watching/following (twitter/facebook/etc...) everything that I possibly can get access to, I'm siding with the owners. I guess more specifically, I'm siding against the Fehr brothers. I think they are doing a disservice to the NHLPA by giving them a false sense of bargaining power in this negotiation. Although both sides can say what they want, I believe the owners compromised on a few of the NHLPA "top priority" issues that they previously had refused to, in an effort to display some good will toward the players and get a deal done. However, the owners did express that just as the players had "top priority issues", so did the owners. The owners compromised and I truly believe the Fehr brothers took this not as good will, but weakness on the part of the owners....which led to them cheer lead to the players that there is an even better deal to be had...."we've got em on the ropes boys!!"

These owners have put millions and billions of THEIR OWN MONEY into purchasing/maintaining their respective clubs. Huge money that was made in another industries. Do you think they are going to let the Fehr brothers "pull punches" in the waning hours when a deal was very likely headed to be signed?? I don't think Fehr have installed a true sense of reality into the players. It may and should be construed as fear. Fear of what?....Fear that they really are replaceable. Fear that, in reality, a lot of these players don't have a lot of attractive options beyond the NHL. You worked your whole life to play in the NHL and now....you play in AHL....you play in Europe? Second rate league, half way around the world from your home...with sub par accommodations (some say dangerous accommodations...look at just the travel accommodations alone and the tragedy of the plane crash that took our former coach BC and so many other players lives). A league that puts on average 1/2 of the people in the seats night after night. Fear that for a lot of these guys without hockey they'd be back working the family farm in Manitoba. How much does that pay??

So let's get real players. You are paid a huge salary under the last CBA and any future agreement. You are going to make a TON of money for playing a GAME. Mr. Player, what did you contribute to make the whole Detroit Red Wings enterprise work?? Your 3rd line play and constant injuries after being left for dead by the entire NHL and given one last chance with the Wings?? (sorry Dan Cleary, but your tweets and rhetoric have gotten under my skin). A big goal in a playoff game?? An NOW YOUR ENTITLED to the revenues and business compromising advantages of the entire business?? Get real. Players; we wear your jerseys and have unwavering support for you....and you can't even have our backs as fans? "Well look at how much money the owners are making....we want some of it for ourselves"....I say...GET REAL, WHAT OTHER BUSINESS LETS YOU LOOK AT THE BALANCE SHEET AND START MAKING DEMANDS OF YOUR OWNER ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT!! They paid hundreds of millions of their dollars to own the business and with that, the risk of owning and NHL team. They earned that right to run their business. You earn your right to wear the jersey (Winged Wheel) and you earn your right to more playing time and potentially a salary raise. You don't do anything but play hockey and know nothing to very little about running a business. So Dan Cleary....go back to Newfoundland and earn your living back there...go play in Europe year after year if you don't like it...maybe try real estate. I realize that might screw up your 3 golf rounds a week at Oakland HIlls (true), but hey, we should be falling all over you right....YOUR DAN CLEARY!!!

A bit aggravated this morning. As a fan who loves this game and have supported this game and players for 35 years...players need to fire Fehr and start making rational/reality for themselves. Decisions for the fairness of yourselves as millionaires playing a game, and for the fans who you all claim you "can't thank enough" (excerpt from any player interview regarding the fans).

#2334764 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by rrasco on 26 November 2012 - 11:13 PM

In other news, it's been 195 days 7 hours 46 minutes 1 seconds since the last Kronwalling.

#2334157 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by drwscc on 16 November 2012 - 09:58 AM

Lets put it this way....

If the shoe was on the other foot, and the players were making 43% while the owners were making 57%, how many people would be crying foul if the players went on strike in an attempt to get an even split of revenues? The ownership in that case would not be gaining anything either.

You take your logic elsewhere, good sir. There is no place for that here. This is a "Buttman is eeeeevil hurr hurr" board.

#2331411 Jordin Tootoo & Polar Bears

Posted by rrasco on 12 October 2012 - 12:22 PM

So...you're offended by someone else's heritage, which was publicly displayed on a feed you chose to follow, so in turn you throw every insult you can his way and then go and post the same exact picture which you were offended by on another public forum?

#2330936 [Retired] Official Lockout Thread

Posted by Guest on 08 October 2012 - 08:45 AM

We should all support dissolving the players union. When that is done, we will never have to worry about another lockout. If players don't like the terms the NHL owners offer, they can play elsewhere. If the best players are choosing to play outside of the NHL, the owners can choose to offer better contracts to entice them to play in the NHL. Free market economics... it works amazingly well.

In the long run, it is market competition that ensures fair wages and treatment... not unions.

Edit: Well shucks, I meant to post this in the lockout thread. Could someone please move it for me? Cheers.

#2330128 White as home jerseys or road jerseys?

Posted by F.Michael on 26 September 2012 - 06:17 PM

I grew up watching white as the home jersey...I gotta say that as the "Red Wings" - they need to continue wearing red at home games.

#2297274 Bettman threatens Edmonton.

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 26 April 2012 - 12:44 PM

The CBC.

Cool images, but I agree with the Mayor. Its easy to throw out these beautifully rendered, detail-less forms with pretty lights and get everyone excited for USS Enterprise Arena, its another thing to add realistic construction detail, building codes, functional constraints, and budget.

It's worth keeping an eye on, but right now its just a VERY pretty example of sculpture at the building scale; not functional architecture. If it does get done it will look NOTHING like that, in form or texture. Its the building version of a concept car.


#2329897 Datsyuk scores a goal off his head

Posted by kipwinger on 24 September 2012 - 02:20 PM

God it's weird to see Radulov wearing the "C" on a team with Datsyuk on it. It's like bizarro world.

#2324384 Bouwmeester opinions? Potential trades? *merged*

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 09 August 2012 - 06:37 AM

What about a bigger trade though Franzen+Kindl+1st for JBo+Iginla

NHL '13 wouldn't even accept that... Worse forward + 7th defensemen + late 1st for Much better forward + 3rd defensemen

#2317588 Semin

Posted by Guest on 10 July 2012 - 01:42 AM

Franzine has been a bust the last 2 playoffs, but hes normally ok. Its the old dead weight thats been killing us. Holland thinks Bertuzzi is 1999 Bertuzzi.

Bertuzzi is 40 pts for less than $2m.

#2316001 Semin

Posted by frankgrimes on 05 July 2012 - 06:14 PM

Rather save money than going after Semin Doan they wont help us.

This offseason was Suter or bust so lets bust and come back with even more money to handout next year.

#2315985 Quincey files for arbitration

Posted by Carman on 05 July 2012 - 05:57 PM

Quincey was bad with us, but he's got the potential to be a very good defenseman. Something just wasn't clicking.

Quincey can do everything, hit, shoot, pass, and skate, just a matter of putting it together. I have a good feeling about him this season.

#2313379 List of why Zach Parise and Ryan Suter should choose the Red Wings...

Posted by Red Wings Addict on 03 July 2012 - 12:37 AM

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#2313371 List of why Zach Parise and Ryan Suter should choose the Red Wings...

Posted by esteef on 03 July 2012 - 12:26 AM

Because I said so!!


#2312793 Parise Watch [update x2]: Red Wings OUT of Running

Posted by esteef on 02 July 2012 - 11:53 AM