Somewhere in Russia, 30 hours away from his daughter, Datsyuk is right now saying, see, THIS is why I wanted out! Mike Babcock concurs... too long and too lucrative of contracts for mediocre to trending downwards replaceable players.
I do like DD and Petr signings. Hopefully we'll like DD'S in 3 years still...
If Helm wasn't paid $4M there would be more money available to offer Mrazek. Period, simple. That signing directly affected this negotiation. But hey, we sure got a fast 4th liner who will get top minutes because he gets top 6 money for 13th forward stats. Screw the future, we have Darren f****** Helm! That's the Juckf****** pott right there!
Screw AA, screw Mantha, screw Jurco and Pulkkinen, f*** our future for Helm! Oh and Howard can always be our #1. Darren and Jimmy, plan the parade!
No question he would be our best player, but he's not worth anywhere close to Larkin plus top prospects / picks...
Yup, if we didn't sign Helm to that s***ty contract, all 4 of Jurco, Pulkkinen, Athanasiou and Mantha would be in the lineup. Damn Helm for taking up 4 roster spots...
The Helm signing is not going to affect Mrazek or DeKeyser's contract in any way. But hey, keep trying to spin everything with your absurd Helm hate...
Nyquist was a wasted signing and Helm is too! That's $9M and two roster spots that can help our future...but hey, let's settle for bad to mediocre.
The chance of Vanek ever scoring 30+ goals again is slim to none. But to put him in the best position to do that again, would be to play him on the 2nd or 3rd line and give him plenty of power-play time (which I'm sure he will get). Vanek should play on a line with fast skaters that can make up for his lack of speed. Helm and Athanasiou are two of our fastest skaters (along with Larkin) and in a support role, against lesser competition, he should be able to put up solid numbers...
problem is, as of right now, with LTIR Holland has a complete roster with 3 fwds that can start in GR with no danger of being claimed AND 2 of 3 D Kids that MUST make the team or be wiaved. So Holland can not do a thing the rest of the summer and start with only a couple of decisions to make.
He can either save 2 of the D kids and wiave Frk, or only save 1 and save Frk.
(not line combos)
Zetterberg - Larkin - Abby
Nyquist - Nielsen - Vanek
Tatar - Helm - Sheahan
Miller - Glenny - Ott
DD - Green
Kronwall - Smith
E - Marchy
1 of XO/Sproul/Jensen
or remove Frk and add another D kid.
Notice no AA, Mantha or Nosek. (they all have waiver eligibilty)
Not sure what will happen when Pulk comes back, one of the extra D kids or Frk will have to be waived.
Of course barring ANY trade this is the current roster with LTIR. IMO, if Holland gets Fowler, et al. He will need to trade 2-3 fwds, 1 of our NHL D and a prospect D total. (not all for Fowler, but in order to become compliant with a healthy roster.) But noone wants E, Smith is pretty good, so I could also see him trading a fwd and a D kid only. Lets say Nyquist(or Tatar) and XO for Fowler. Now who becomes #7, Smith or E? I just think Holland will either overload his D or just stay pat and do nothing. Either way, we risk Frk and/or 2 of the D kids to waivers...
Ya I don't get the ott/Miller signings , signing helm to 3.85 cap hit assures us he's gonna be on the 2nd or 3rd line (don't get this signing either)
Signing vanek as well guarantees no matter what holland says to the media or how good mantha does in exhibition games that he will go back to Grand Rapids
I totally see a nyquist/Tatar being dealt for a fowler (much rather of had trouba,but don't have the pieces)
Sadly with all these signings I can see us losing pulkkinen jurco frk for nothing ... I just hope it's not literally nothing(rather give Andersson 2-3 7th rounders and more cracks at a gem pick than losing guys on waivers again)
I just hope jurco/frk dominates exhibition play and forces us to trade ott/Miller ... Mantha sadly with no worries about the waiver will start down in Grand Rapids
Glendening isn't keeping kids in GR. The kids ready to come up are top 9. Helm is keeping kids in GR. They are going to be up here to play 4th line minutes so they may as well be in GR. That's why Helm was a waste of a roster spot.
WingedWheel, it seems we don't agree on much, but I agree with you here 100%. Great post!
I also agree that Fowler is massively overrated. I would take him on this team, but not at the price it would likely cost. Like I've said before, if we're over paying for a defenseman, it needs to be a true number one or at least one that has the potential to be a true number one...