DSM

 

 

I think the future top line is taking shape and will eventually consist of a real good nucleus.

 

Not saying they are locks as elite players but a future of:

 

Nyquist - Anderson - Tatar

Dekeyser - Smith

Howard

 

so far that is looking like a bright future!

 

 

I don't think any of those guys will be elite, but I think the Wings nucleus of young talent is much more extensive. The Red Wings will most likely have 11 players between the ages of 22-27 on their 23 man roster when next season starts: Nyquist, Tatar, Helm, Andersson, Emmerton, Abdelkader, Brunner, Kindl, DeKeyser, Lashoff and Smith. All of them have pretty much found a role and this team and some are young enough to still have lots of room to grow, while the ones entering their prime all seem to still be improving.

God these threads always blow. Makes me miss the dislike button or whatever it was even more...

I also like how Schultz, Parise and Suter had to be thrown in there too.

Complete waste of this forums bandwith, IMO.

I think some people here would love to have Glen Sather as GM. The teams mediocrity would be overshadowed by the Christmas morning like nature that trade deadline day and July 1st would hold!

Brunnstrom's hat trick actually came in his NHL debut.

I think Brunner's struggles are linked to the unusual structure of his first season. They always keep pointing out that he's never had to travel this much, or play as much in one year. Combine that with the fact that he didn't get a full training camp or any exhibition games to get used to NHL ice, and I think that's the answer to his recent struggles.

I think they should give him an affordable 2 year deal, and see how much better he gets next season.

How many of you are gonna cry if he doesn't sign with us?

I just can't wait for this whole "Dekeyidstrom" circus to be over. I laugh when posters talk like this kid (who has never seen anything close to NHL action) is going to be a huge boost to the Wings for the rest of this season. Makes me wonder if any of them have ever heard of a guy named Ray Staszak...

Yes, he is. We were more wondering if you can bury them in LTIR, and get cap relief. Due to 35+ contracts always getting the cap hit, yes, we still would have his cap hit next year. I think what more or less people were wondering, and myself, was with a 35+ contract on LTIR, can you still exceed the cap by that players cap hit? or no? If we buried him on LTIR, it would be useless if we can't use his cap space still. Might as well use a buy-out then. 

Sounds like you can still exceed the cap. It's explained here: http://flyersfaithfu...njured-reserve/

Also if you look at Capgeek, Philly is at the moment over the cap by $566k. This number is reflected in the "Projected LTIR" section on Philly's page.

I've got a trade idea...

Phoenix could use a few more fans, maybe Holland can trade Blueadams to the Coyotes. Maybe for Yandle?

We have enough slump-prone forwards on this team. No need to overpay for another one...

This is all just generated media hype. Just like Corey Perry trade rumors.

If you have brain cells, you should know that Corey Perry isn't going anywhere. With Anaheim's position in the standings, I doubt the thought of trading Perry has even crossed Murray's mind. It's all media generated speculation. They did the same thing last season with Parise and Suter, and neither player went anywhere.

In the media's eyes, it works like this:

[Star Player] + [Impending UFA Status] = [OMG POSSIBLE TRADE, QUICK WRITE IT ON PIERRE MCGUIRE'S CUE CARDS]

This whole Datsyuk to Russia thing is the same way...

[Tells Russian Media it Would Be Nice to Retire in Russia] + [Contract up in 2014] = [OMG KHL IN 2014]

Until I hear something more substantial, I just brush it off as media fodder.

I hate to burst some peoples bubbles, but Jimmy probably commands at least 5 million per. IMO he could get 6 per on the open market.

That being said though, Jimmy is a Wing and very much a team guy. I could easily see him signing for 4 million per just because, despite his own knowledge of his value, he loves this team.

That's been my thinking, and I'm sure Jimmy's agent is very aware. Howard, Backstrom and Mike Smith are the only real quality starting goalies that will potentially be hitting the market. Hiller and maybe Miller may also be available via an expensive trade. Teams like Toronto, Washington, Florida, Tampa Bay, The Islanders and maybe others will probably be looking for an upgrade in net after this season and will overpay if they have to. The Wings are going to have to compete with this.

I say he gets 4.5-5 per season for 3/4 years.

You also can't use Mrazek's potential as a factor for the contract length. I'm sure Mrazek is in the teams future plans, but I doubt the plan is to throw him in the fire when they think he is ready for the NHL and Howards contract is up. He'll start by working in tandem with a starting capable netminder, and you can bet that will be Howard. Much like Howard did with Osgood.

No one's going to take Sammy and his glass jaw for anything useful. We can't afford to just ship out players. We are not sellers. We don't just auction off pieces for nothing.

If the Wings were indeed sellers, I could see teams making a pitch for Samuelsson. Although, more so if he was scheduled to be a UFA. Even though he's missed significant time in recent seasons, he's still posted good numbers and has an impressive resume that includes 3 SCF appearances.

You know wrong.

I will never convince any of you, but your bloodlust blinds you to the danger he puts the team in. I hate him as a person and a player.  Though He isn't one of the three forwards that need to go for the young bodies to stay.  He is the next on my list to can though.   

#Tootoosucks

Tootoo hate is funny. You hate him as a person? So you know him personally?

Must've been awful for you when the Wings won the cup in '08 with 3 tough guys on the team...

GTFO

 Not true.  All 3 guys signed before the age of 35 so when they retire, their cap hit disappears from the books.  Not like Pronger in Philly  .  I just hope that the guys we have contracts expiring on this year, we let go and try to get good depth guys like Scuderi.  Not sure there's any spots open on forward or D, but hey, there's always GR for guys who don't measure up.  Sproul and Ouellet will likely be the top unit there next season and hopefully only there for 1 year.

Should be interesting to see what Holland does if he wants to open up spots.

Lets consider:

-If you leave out UFA's (Filppula, Cleary, White, Howard, Brunner, Huskins and Miller)

-It's a good bet that all RFA's minus Mursak have a pretty much 100% chance of being re-signed (Andersson, Kindl and Smith)

-Factor in that Tatar, Andersson and Lashoff can no longer go to GR without hitting waivers

You end up with 20 players on the roster (12 Forwards, 7 Dmen, and 1 Goalie). That leaves 3 spots open. Obviously, the Wings priority at this time is to re-sign Howard, Brunner and Filppula. Which takes up the 3 open spots.

The Red Wings will have to make some moves if they want to make upgrades. However, I doubt they will go the buyout route.

I completely DISagree with you, ZWD.

 

I think the days of STUPID GM'ing where you hand out multi-year/multi-million dollar contracts to OLD players is over.  Perry will get 8 million.  You can count on that.  Not every GM is going to look to spread their cap money out equally.  That's why the Wings are in a big mess right now.  They have too many average players making average NHL money.  Holland is looking to give guys golden parachutes instead of letting them spend their non-useful years in the minors or elsewhere.  We need to look at things like this:

 

End of this year:

 

Buy out Bertuzzi.

Buy out Samuelsson.

Let Cleary Go.

Let White Go.

Let Howard Go.

Let Miller Go.

Sign Huskins (1 year, 1 mil).

Sign Tatar (3 years, 1 mil per).

Sign Mrazek (3 years, 1.5 mil per).

Sign Kindl (3 years, 1.5 mil per).

Sign Smith (3 years, 1.5 mil per).

Sing Brunner (3 years, 2 mil per).

Sign Filppula (7 years, 4 mil per).

Sign Datsyuk extension/restructure (7 years, 6 mil per).

Sign Perry (7 years, 8 mil per).

 

2013 roster:

 

Franzen (4) - Zetterberg (6) - Brunner (2)

Perry (8) - Datsyuk (6) - Tatar (1)

Filppula (4) - Helm (2) - Andersson (1)

Abdlekader (2) - Emmerton (1) - Tootoo (2)

 

Eaves (1)

 

Kronwall (5) - Ericsson (3)

Quincey (4) - Smith (1.5)

Kindl (1.5) - Lashoff (1)

 

Colo (2.5) - Huskins (1)

 

Mrazek (1.5)

Gustavsson (1.5)

 

Payroll - 62.5 mil.

 

 

End of Next Year:

 

Let Eaves Go.

Let Colo Go.

Let Huskins Go.

Let Gustavson Go.

Sign Sproul (3 years, .75 mil per).

Sign Ouelette (3 years, .75 mil per).

Sign McCollum (3 years, .75 mil per).

Sign Nyquist (3 years, 1 mil per).

Sign Emmerton (3 years, 1 mil per).

 

2014 Roster:

 

Franzen (4) - Zetterberg (6) - Brunner (2)

Perry (8) - Datsyuk (6) - Tatar (1)

Filppula (4) - Helm (2) - Andersson (1)

Abdelkader (2) - Emmerton (1) - Tootoo (2)

 

Nyquist (1)

 

Kronwall (5) - Ericsson (3)

Quincey (4) - Smith (1.5)

Kindl (1.5) - Lashoff (1)

 

Sproul (.75) - Ouelette (.75)

 

Mrazek (1.5)

McCollum (.75)

 

Payroll = 59.75 mil.

 

 

I should be the GM.  Ken Holland is a bozo.

Funny joke..... right?

Your 2014 team is worse than the current team. I don't even think NHL13 would let you ice that team....

Do you even know anything about Thomas McCollum?

What happened to the dislike button?

mike "drive" emrick lmao. god that is annoying when he hollers that.

 

ya eddie is a rock, makes me never want to watch nbcsn. at least they have dave strater though.

I think next game Drive Emrick calls for the Wings, I'm going to count how many times he yells "drive".

NBC's NHL coverage is an absolute embarassment. Guys like Pierre McGuire and Mike Milbury have no business being on TV or anywhere near the NHL.