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#2510561 Would You Trade For Matt Greene's Rights?

Posted by DickieDunn on Yesterday, 03:10 PM


I wouldn't be so sure about that for atleast two reasons:

-#1. Niskanen is arguably the most valuable Dman destined for UFA status. MacDonald was a close 2nd or possibly 1B. After MacDonald signed his extension with Philly, I'm sure Niskanens agent has made him well aware what could be thrown at him on the open market.

-#2. Already tight at the cap and with Letangs raise kicking in, the Pens have just shy of $16M in cap space to fill seven roster spots. That includes Niskanen and Orpik's spots on the blueline as well as atleast one top-6 forward. They may have to choose between one of them to fill their needs.


This is true.  I think Niskanen will get paid though, and if it's not by the Pens he's going to get BIG money on the market, far more than he's probably worth, and more than the Wings need to pay any D-man.

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#2510247 Would You Trade For Matt Greene's Rights?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 17 April 2014 - 04:39 PM


The problem with all of this is that we need defensive help now, not in 2 years time.


Who can we get that's better than Kindl and Lashoff ( and hopefully Quincey and Smith) that will sign here for no more than 2 years? Anyone of any major value is going to want a long term deal.


On top of that, And Mac just signed a 6 year/30M deal, so that's whast those caliber of D-men get paid now.


Dan Boyle

Marek Zidlicky


Kimmo Timonen


Derek Morris

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#2509891 Your predictions for the roster heading into the offseason.

Posted by WingsallTheway on 15 April 2014 - 07:10 PM

abby - dats - alfie

Franzen - Z - Bertuzzi

Cleary - J. Williams - K. Calder

Cleary - Helm - Cleary




Kronwall - Lebda

Lilja - Coliacavo

Quincey - Lashoff


bench: smith kindl




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#2392115 Kronwall and Rig on the wing?

Posted by puckbags on 30 April 2013 - 01:04 PM

I also have thought about dressing 8 defensemen in 4 pairings, 3 lines of forwards, and an enforcer.


And we have all thought about how nice it would be to trade you to the Florida Panthers forums, in the words of the Rolling Stones " You can't always get what you want " 

#2392048 Kronwall and Rig on the wing?

Posted by Din758 on 30 April 2013 - 10:22 AM

thanks for the laugh

#2389499 Rebuilding Thoughts..

Posted by Crymson on 25 April 2013 - 04:44 PM

Who the hell is Schwartz? Do you mean Schultz? 


Do not underestimate the power of the Schwartz!


I agree. Go post this crap on Bleacher Report, where even the "featured columnists" think they can do Hollands job better and have no idea what they are talking about.




A guy who happens to the most insufferable, know-it-all pessimist on the Wings HFBoards subforum---a community full of pessimistic know-it-alls---actually did start his own blog. It is hilariously bad, but the fellow still believes he's the universe's gift to hockey writing.

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#2389491 Rebuilding Thoughts..

Posted by Son of a Wing on 25 April 2013 - 04:21 PM

My God get a blog......


Don't quite understand why the Mods keep letting this guy continue to start threads like this. Starts a flamewar everytime.


Quite easy to express your opinion of Howard in the many Howard threads.....Defence in one of the many defence threads......


Must hold his own opinion pretty high to post an essay everytime summing up his brilliant rational thoughts.



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#2389434 Rebuilding Thoughts..

Posted by dirtydangles on 25 April 2013 - 01:12 PM

Who the hell is Schwartz? Do you mean Schultz? 

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#2385248 Tambelinni fired, MacTavish new Oiler GM...Scott Howson new Sr VP

Posted by Buppy on 15 April 2013 - 11:55 PM

Howson was responsible for bringing in Bobrovsky during the offseason, before he was fired.  Actually he was responsible for every major move the team has made since 2007 (except the Gaborik trade) including bringing in Dubinsky, Anisimov, Aucoin, Wisneiwski, Johnson, Prospal, Umberger, Tyutin, Foligno, Nikitin, Letestu, and Erixon. 


So pretty much their entire team was acquired by him in one form or fashion, and they're playing well right now, so credit where it's due. ..

Odd that he deserves "credit" for taking over a bad team, and in 5 years they managed to do as well as "mediocre" for one year (thanks mostly to a great rookie season from a goalie he didn't draft) before turning back into a pumpkin for a few more years, and now in the 6th year again reaching mediocre (thanks mostly to a goalie performing better than probably should have been expected).


Meanwhile, you wish you had a time machine so you could kill Kenny's mother before his birth because he doesn't know how to stop players from aging...

#2382963 What are the odds of Datsyuk staying after next season?

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 11 April 2013 - 12:30 PM

No way he leaves. He is posturing so he gets paid 7.5 mil a season instead of 5. Its p.r. work.

Getting married years ago, having a daughter, getting divorced and having the daughter stay in Russia, all in anticipation of this contract re-signing.

Datsyuk is a friggin public relations genius.
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#2382641 Damien Brunner - Value? Comparables?

Posted by MibJab on 09 April 2013 - 11:06 PM

I just wonder what the excuses will be if he tanks next year too (if we sign him). I can see it now, "It's his first full season, the workouts, the preseason, training camp, playing original six teams..he's tired and needs to adjust" blah blah blah. Good players show up. Bottom line. 

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#2382487 Damien Brunner - Value? Comparables?

Posted by MibJab on 09 April 2013 - 01:21 PM

 He's under 30 years old and is about a .65 ppg player in his 1st (partial) NHL season playing on a smaller ice surface, against bigger more physical guys and on a Wings team that unlike in the past CAN'T SCORE WORTH A DAMN!  If Brunner was on a team with better scoring top 6 guys, he'd be a point per game.  Side note, Martin St. Louis is 5'8, and Theo Fleury was 5'6.  Size is the worst argument in hockey for scorers.  Sure I'd love a power forward, but you can be small and successful.  Crosby is under 6'0, Z, Dats, Duchene and so on.  Those guys find ways to compete with the larger guys and given a couple seasons and lots of practice and a summer in an NHL weight room, Brunner will too.  Next year I say he gets 35 goals and 70 points.



I don't know about your comparisons. I understand you were making size comparisons, but you just compared Brunner to some of the best small guys to ever suit up. As for the .65 points per game...That's only applicable to the first half of this short season. The guy has been non existent for about a month or two. Once the league got in shape and up to speed, he's vanished. He doesn't even get many scoring chances. I mean, as for the Red Wings sake, they love small skilled forwards that can skate their hearts out on the perimeter, and take really hard shots from the boards..But that's not gonna cut it in this league. I'm also kind of tired of hearing "if he was on a line with a better scorer, or a team with better scoring" No, bad excuse. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Filpulla, those guys are the scorers, they shouldn't need a top 3 top 6 guy to make them produce more. It should be the other way around, they should be the ones making other guys produce. Aside from Datsyuk, If I was the coach, I wouldn't be please with any of these guys. A guy like Zetterberg, when his scoring falls off (which it does ever year, until the playoffs), he's got great defensive play to keep him on top of the ranks. As for Brunner, Franzen, if they arent scoring they are almost absolutely useless. We have guys like Cleary, Abdelkader, Bertuzzi, Sammuelsson to reap the benefits of our top guys hard work...A guy like Brunner should be replaced with someone that will alone create some space in the middle of the ice instead of rocketeering along the outside and getting benefited from his line mates harder work on the inside.  Thats just my opionion, I respect and understand that others wont see it this way. 

#2381545 Any trade targets available again?

Posted by puckbags on 07 April 2013 - 11:21 AM

If we pick up a defenseman, I will be upset. We need two goal scorers/big bodies.

Kronwall, Ericsson, Smith, Kind, Quincey, Lashoff, Dekeyser, Smith, Ouelette

Those are 9 guys. And we still have Colo, White, and Huskins at this point.

We need forwards.


Long gone buddy..try to keep up.

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#2380209 Going forward with what we have

Posted by stillwater on 04 April 2013 - 01:06 PM

I stopped reading at "well" ...

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#2380052 Holland retirement watch?

Posted by KrazyGangsta on 03 April 2013 - 11:38 PM

So pathetic, why would he retire because he didn't want to over pay all these over hyped players that aren't even going help us win the cup. Reality check people, everyone knows even if we had traded there's not a player that's going to get this team to the stanley cup. Holland is just realistic and you guys must face the it too that this team is in rebuilding. Keeping draft pick and our prospects is more beneficial to us as then having players like Jagr & Iginla on the roster.


I'm so happy that Holland didn't overpay anyone or that he didn't do any trade at all. Truth be told there's not one player that was on the trade block or could of been traded for which is worth it this year.


You guys think this is back in the days when there's no salary cap we can trade our picks and prospects and get some talent as fast and as easy as it was before. Think again, the game's changed and the salary cap makes decision tougher, the only way to stay competitive over year and year is to keep building up with the draft and keeping your core intact. If you go spend money on FA's and ship off your prospect, you will be dead last for the rest of your life.