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#2000477 Is Filppula going to be our 3rd line center...or 1st line winger?

Posted by CenterIce on 16 June 2010 - 10:31 PM

We have had this discussion before, but first, it is a good problem to have. That means you have multiple lines that can contribute. It puts more pressure on their line mates, because more is expected of them, which is good. First and second line guys will get top defensive pairings, so I have always like scorers on the third or fourth line, because it creates mismatches. We have seen this with Samuelsson and Hudler, producing in a lower number of minutes on the lower lines. The players just have to get over the individual issues and realize it is all about the end result which is the win.


#1996047 Would a real gritty fighter help or hurt this team?

Posted by CenterIce on 07 June 2010 - 09:21 PM

Like it or not, the last 4 Wings' teams to win the Cup all had a fighter on the roster during the regular season. As Babcock says, "they keep the flies off" the stars.


I did not say that the Wings' should not have a fighter on the team. I said if they do, they need one who can contribute in other areas, not just the fists. You do remember that there used to be 24 roster spots; now only 23. There used to be no salary cap; now there is one. You can't have a guy sitting on your roster, waiting for certain games, where there may be a fight. And, the guys you were talking about? I assume you mean Joey Kocur, who had key goals in the 97 finals versus Philadelphia. McCarty had the hat trick against Colorado in the Conference Finals in 02. Dallas Drake also contributed points in 08 playoffs.

I think you are just proving my point. I like fighting. Never said any differently. I just said they have to contribute, especially in this era. The guys you are inferring did just that.

Give me a roster that has toughness up and down the lineup over a single 4th line "enforcer" who glares at players he never matches up against and who fights other enforcers.

Aka, when talent starts to falter, make up for it in grit, which would be a good mindset for Kenny in the coming years.


Well said.


#1995802 Would a real gritty fighter help or hurt this team?

Posted by CenterIce on 07 June 2010 - 11:27 AM

I would love to see a fighter brought to the team. The last several years there are several "hybrid" type players who have the grit, and everyday player ability to stay with the team. What do you think about a solid fighter on the team?


You can't have a player who just sits on the bench for all but 5 minutes of a game anymore. Everyone has to contribute. If a guy can fight, but chip in some goals and assists, every now and than, bring him on, but if all he does is fight, there is no room on the roster. You wouldn't want him to be in every game, because he wouldn't always be needed. And, you can't always predict exactly which games he would be needed.


#1995006 Great or Bust?

Posted by CenterIce on 05 June 2010 - 08:23 PM

Leino came out and said in an NHL article that he basically did not like it in Detroit. He didn't want to be over coached, with everyone telling him what to do. He also said the Wings were trying to make him a goal scorer, when he feels he is a play maker. He didn't want to play system hockey. So, his attitude was not in a place to play for the Wings. With the Wings, you have to buy into the system. You have to be responsible in both ends of the ice. Plus, you have to be willing to be flexible and play different roles. Some guys play well on some teams and not on others.


#1993934 Ron MacLean saves a man's life

Posted by CenterIce on 03 June 2010 - 05:16 PM

Why save a person who decided to commit suicide, never understood.. it's their choice.


Maybe the guy thought no one in the world cared if he was around any more. This story showed that two guys did care. It can change someone's outlook.


#1990862 Second outdoor game in Calgary

Posted by CenterIce on 28 May 2010 - 03:33 PM

Well thats 2 for Montreal and 2 for the Pens so 2012 the Wings should be due to host one. The leafs should be good enough by then they can play at the big house and FILL IT.


You won't see a US team playing a Canadian team. NBC doesn't think a Canadian team can carry in the US, and CBC wants Canadian teams for their side. You may see each Canadian team get a bunch of these for the next few years, because they are playing theirs on Hockey Day in Canada.


#1972886 Did Bettman Say His Officials Actually Make Mistakes!

Posted by CenterIce on 03 May 2010 - 09:53 PM

[Quote]3. The officials: Bettman was also asked about the officiating in the playoffs -- a sensitive topic judging from ESPN.com message boards -- and whether the games are being called differently in the postseason.

"It's not the case," Bettman said. "They haven't been given a different set of instructions. The game is played a little differently, and the officials have to react to that. And there are adjustments that go on in the course of a series that you don't see over the course of the regular season, two teams will play and play different teams the next night.

"The games now are probably a little more intense. ... But no, they're told to call it just the way they did [in the regular season]. I also think the scrutiny tends to be even a little greater and the passion involved in every call is probably greater because every call is important. Our goal is to have the officials get it right and overwhelmingly they do. Are they perfect? This is a game of mistakes. Coaches make mistakes, players make mistakes and, occasionally, even an official might."

http://espn.go.com/n...led-differently


#1968068 Wings Lack Third Period Comebacks

Posted by CenterIce on 30 April 2010 - 11:40 AM

As I said yesterday, it seems like 3 years since we last had a comeback in the 3rd period of a playoff game. If I'm not mistaken, I think the last time was that game against San Jose where Lang scored with the goalie pulled.

Now we've had some good playoff runs the last few years and have had tremendous talent, yet for some reason we're just not a come from behind team. Why?

I will give us credit for protecting leads very well in 3rd periods over that stretch, but unfortunately it hasn't worked the other way around.

With other teams pulling off two or three goal comebacks all the time, it'd be nice to see us do it too. Seems like when we go into the 3rd trailing, the game is over.

I hope this changes soon.


I think you can summarize the Wings attitude in the playoffs over the years as been there done that. So, they sometimes get complacent and feel that if they just bide their time, it will work out. They don't like to open it up, which can cause the situation to get even worse. I think the biggest thing is that the Wings need to have better starts to not get into that situation in the first place. They need to play a complete 60 minutes.


#1939598 Anybody that is going to games 1 & 2

Posted by CenterIce on 13 April 2010 - 10:55 AM

This.

I never understood why teams do the whiteout when their home unis are the colored ones.


When this started in Winnipeg, the home uniforms were the white ones.


#1933171 Howard too old to be Rookie of the Year?

Posted by CenterIce on 06 April 2010 - 08:17 AM

I think Ken Daniels said that Nabokov was about the same age when he won rookie of the year. Yeah, maybe with younger guys coming in now, the age limit should be looked at, but Howard currently qualifies as a rookie, goalies mature later, and he is having a heck of a season.


#1930712 Eaves trip on SO attempt #2 on ESPN not top plays

Posted by CenterIce on 02 April 2010 - 03:45 PM

I love how the majority of these are hockey related <_< So much for good publicity.


Any publicity is good publicity?


#1915933 Wings Fatigued from the Last Few Playoff Runs?

Posted by CenterIce on 14 March 2010 - 08:56 PM

its not an excuse if it's true...


just sayin


I can't think of a three year span where they made the Conference Finals or Stanley Cup Finals in a row. They have usually been all the way or get out in the first or second round. I don't think all the guys who were injured for long periods this year should be tired, but certain guys like Datsyuk, Lidstrom, and Stuart have logged a lot of tough minutes this year, because they have had to make up for players out. Those guys have the right to be tired.