Haha, I have a poor reputation. Oh well, I know the people I know on here and am already friends with some people on here that I want to be friends with, so that's more important to me.
Whoa, your reputation is already worse than Mindfly's
Looks like posters are just going through and voting down every single post of people they don't like. Ah well... definitely an imperfect system (it works best with how Slashdot does it - a revolving, random group of "karma police"), but it might come in handy at some point to hide posts below a certain threshold. It also encourages [good] posting and could dissuade posts like "Holmstrom sucks!!!"
I like it, and bet we'll start to see some genuine reputation whores real soon. Just adds another entertaining aspect to the forum, and can easily be ignored for those who don't care.
Also I'm not sure what to think about the new "Reputation" feature. It will point out anytime when a clear majority of people disagree with something but just because an opinion isn't popular doesn't mean it's wrong. I guess I look forward to seeing users abuse that stat in the near future. "My reputation points speak for themselves and bla bla bla..."
Though it does crack me up that Mindfly's reputation is already "poor".
I haven't seen anyone say you swayed or even reinforced there arguement. Just because they have opinions as to why they should have kept Hossa doesn't mean they are the same as yours, nor does it mean you have convinced them, or even that you have been winning any arguement. Please point out all these people who have said you have successfully stated and defended there points?? You also keep talking about inflation, as if you know for certain the cap is going to go up every year, and even if it does that it is going to go up drastically. You don't think for a second there could be a decline in the cap within the decade that Hossa signed for??? What part of the problem with the contract to me don't you get his amount for his AGE is a huge issue. At one time Rafalskis contract was considered great now look at it, but obviously with your omnipotent powers you can for certain say the same end result won't happen for Hossa. Also show me a 30 goal scorer with a lifetime contract at the age of 30 or more.
With my trusty financial calculator I once took the time to factor average inflation, and the average growth of the NHL (being conservative, as despite the NHL trailing some of the other major sports in growth (though it is still in double digits) I believe it is far less mature at this point and could outpace them if Bettman doesn't screw it up too bad (we are talking about a major sport with still no major TV contract)):
Being extremely conservative - these long-term contracts Holland is signing will have little-to-no adverse effect on the cap hit well into the future. They are literally great contracts to sign, with very low risk.
I have the actual numbers I pulled up somewhere, but am too lazy to find it right now (I do apologize).
No I am insinuating that just because you played in juniors (whoop de freaking doo) doesn't mean you are the master of hockey knowledge here and should bring it up as ammunition to belittle another poster.
Congrats on playing juniors. But you aren't automatically an authority on NHL knowledge just because you played in those leagues. It's not even close to the same thing as the NHL.
But what do I know, I'm just a stereotypical keyboard warrior who knows nothing about the sport in comparison to the experts who played so many years in junior freaking hockey.
In all fairness, he did not use it as a claim to being a hockey god (or use it as ammo to belittle others), but simply as reference add credibility to his detailed observations (I thought he described the difference defensively between Filppula and Hossa quite accurately -- Filppula is the better PKer (but not by a lot) and Hossa is definitely the better backchecker and forechecker).
I have no problem believing experience actually playing the sport adds further depths to an analysis or observation (though there are certainly numerous exceptions).
These are just too funny... thought I would share some:
Who the **** is Jeff Finger -- First reply on a Leaf's board.
does that mean its 4 years 3.5 mill in total.. or 3.5 per year ???
I bet it is a mistake. It must be 4 years for 3.5 total...
Cliff Fletcher, you are a senile idiot. **** you you geriatric *******.
Wait, did this guy win a contest or something?
I think Fletcher is forgetting to take his old man pills.
Maybe paying Finger 3.5 per season is his way of bumping up the trade value of McCabe and Kubina.
Actually his giveaway totals are really impressive for the amount of ice time he played last season. Especially when you put them up against our current defenceman.
Leafs are about to make Redden the highest paid player in the world.
Bring Back Hal Gill!
Some of you are really underestimating Jeff Finger. He's a quality defenseman; a little overpaid but not as bad as same think it is.
This is karma for laughing at Colorado.
I think this has huge potential.
Potential? The guy will turn 29 in december for god's sake.
Nobody can EVER EVER EVER complain McCabe or Kubina are overpaid. ***
When i first read the headline I thought this was an AHL depth move...
Does he have magical powers or something?
Somewhere Jeff Finger is still moonwalking.
Good plus minus?
He was a healthy scratch against Detroit in the playoffs if that makes anyone feel better.
... at least there's no NTC!
Isn't $3.5/year for Jeff Finger the same thign as a no trade clause?
Judging by the narcotics Fletcher must be on at the moment, I'd say it's his best day ever too.
Dear Lord, we are getting condolences from Florida fans now.
Is this based on his skills or on his experience?
Leafs Give Fans The Finger, Sign No Name to Massive Deal
WE ARE DOOMED!!!!
I'm literally loling, I've gone insane.
Thank god the Thrashers are my backup team....
Scouting Report: CAREER POTENTIAL: Top six defenseman. WOw..he's a top 6 d man...you just gave 3.5 million to a top 6 d man. way to go!
John Tavares here we come.
I could become an Oiler or Habs fan right now. Right ****ing now, I am so pissed about this signing. This is worse then every single ****ing signing that JFJ did.
I WANT JFJ BACK!!! FLETCH GO TO HELL!
A retarded baby would have known better than to make this deal.
Potentially the first time Leaf fans and fans of every other teams will agree?
It'd be very considerate of Fletcher if he went ahead and filled in the buy-out paperwork for his successor.
Come on this can't be true, is this some sort of sick joke.
There is no defending this, half the comentators are laughing their ***** off. Once again the Leafs are the laughing stalk of free agent frenzie.
Damn! Looks like Lowe missed out on the Jeff Finger sweepstakes.
the leafs will make up his salary in jersey sales alone
sign and trade !!!
2010 Headline: Leafs Cut Finger
His stats throughout the season look much better then those playoff totals.
I came home (left work early to watch free agent frenzy on tsn) had 5 beers chilling all day, popped a beer, swallowed, saw the signing and spit it out. Then I got some real liquor.
Who were the Leafs competing with?
I would hate having a guy named Finger dating my sister!
He's only overpaid by about $2 million.
Have we turned into the damn Oilers?
good to see someone else is determined to beat the ridiculouslness of the mats sundin 10mill offer sheet...
Half the players in the NHL are lining up for his agnet.
I wonder what number he'll wear.
The Leafs need to extend Devereaux's contract right now...before he tests the UFA market next year and gets $10 million per.
92 games. 92 GAMES. We gave him his contract for reaching a peak no one has even seen yet. 92 GAMES. 92 92 92 92 92. It's INSANE.
It's probably not the worst signing... in history, in all sports in the world... hopefully.
This would have to be a record setting signing in terms of most dollars paid to someone you never heard of.
He makes a great cappuchino!
His agent pulled the ol' Jedi Mind Trick
Relax, the hockey guys know what they're doing.
I've seen Finger play in the AHL. He's dirty. As in sick.
The big question is, what teams were offering him 2, 2.5, 3 million?
Why am I not surprised by this. Man it's painful to be a Leafs fan.
Enjoy it, Leafs fans.
He took the standard Toronto Discount.
The Avalanche were so fond of him, they traded for Ruslan Salei and Adam Foote at the deadline so the could get Finger off the ice and into the press box.
Dang, Rangers grab him.
Red Wings signed a similar player and many fans were not too happy about it either: Lilja @ $1.2 million.
Would it be fair to say that Toronto fans are going to see a lot of the trap this season?
I am hoping Finger is a better player in his full 2nd year in the NHL.
Are we a contender?
He was benched in the playoffs. That doesn't sound like "one of the five best defensemen in the west" to me.
I'm almost laughing as hard as this as when Toskala let in that goal from 20845208 feet.
Until I see I a link I don't believe there is even a guy named Jeff Finger in the league.
My best memory of Jeff Finger is when one of the sportsnet guys said "And Jeff Finger bangs it past the blue line!"
I doubt anyone has any clue what the Leafs needs are or what they aiming to get done with free agency. Just so we are clear, are you limiting this comment to the people who post on HF Boards or does it extend to Leafs management as well?
Joel Quenville just pulled off the greatest prank in hockey history!
Well at least he has a nice personality.
Fletcher: "Uh yeah, so we're interested in signing your client, hmmm... let's see... Finger? Oh yes, Jeff Finger... to a 2 year deal totaling $2.2 million. Finger's Agent (In his mom's basement): "I'm sorry Mr. Fletcher... [yells incoherently to the side of the phone]... it's crazy here... I'm having trouble hearing you... offers are pouring ins... [clangs a bell, yells some more]... they're saying he's the next Bobby Orr... [rararararara]... " Fletcher: "$3.5!!! $3.5 million!!! For 4 years!!!" Finger's Agent: "Today's your lucky day."
Classless bunch you are. Giving a fanbase the finger while it's down.
Anyone else afraid to google "Jeff Finger video highlights"
Don't feel bad. He's the next Aki Berg we've been praying for ever since he left for Finland.
I find it funny how many comments we've seen about him being a solid move because he's excellent defensively, but then hear he was benched in the playoffs because of a defensive mistake that cost his team the game.