I've kept in touch with Matt on and off for years (for a short time he wrote about the Red Wings' prospects on this site before the turn of the century and branching out to Rivals.com and eventually RWC). We worked a bit on CapGeek together and this is truly sad news.
Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. I know the decision made tonight was an extremely difficult one for him....
Admittedly I can't see a scenario where the Wings could get Hall anytime soon, but I also can't imagine why the Wings wouldn't want him given the right deal.
Yes he plays a little recklessly and isn't great defensively, but I can't hold too much against him for any of that given the disaster that is the Edmonton Oilers. He still has maturing to do, and it's not gonna happen in Edmonton under the conditions there for the last few years.
If that's Earl Grey, or Chamomile - please set up another place setting for me!
Are you kidding me?! *Chamomile*? IT'S NOT EVEN A REAL TEA!! It's a fricking *herb*. Are you so full of yourself that you can't appreciate a decent green tea? You're probably the type that prefers English Breakfast over Irish Breakfast. I just don't know what to say to you anymore. You're clearly an uncivilized ass.
Nothing wrong with that, it's still a shame that nobody stood up for Smith and adding someone other teams fear is never the worst idea in the world.
Also Johnny Hockey, Monahan and the other Flames youngstars can go outthere and do what they want, because they know a bunch of no nonsense guys are having their back. I disagree with a lot of things that Burke says, but when it comes to truculence, beligerence and pugnacity the guy is right. I'm also not going to say sorry for liking something thats been part of hockey since forever and enjoying a good scrap, hard hit and some rough stuff after all this is hockey and not soccer where so called athletes are acting like ******* if someone touches them ...
Posted by Mckinley25
on 15 December 2014 - 11:52 PM
What's your solution? Shanahan's suspensions didn't seem to work as much as desired. And cheap hits in the playoffs have resulted in fighting. The Ottawa vs. Montreal series a few years ago turned into a fight fest due to a cheapshot. The 2012 playoffs had a ton of brawls and skirmishes in the first round.
Historically, though, there's never been as much fighting in the playoffs as the regular season. Even in the 80's or early 90's.
Honestly, I don't know that I have a solution, but I also haven't been tasked with it in any official capacity. I believe before fighting can be eliminated the NHL has to assume a stronger position against it, but there are at this time too many fans and consequently too much money, in support of fighting.
1. The Wings DO get after people for dirty hits. Not every single time but E went after Nolan and in previous seasons Bertuzzi stuck up for Pav. It's not always about fighting, there are guys who make their presence known after questionable hits.
2. I know moderation has been a touchy subject lately but I've noticed the number of personal attacks has gone way up in the past few weeks and honestly, it doesn't bring much to the discussion at all.
You're right. I'll order another Miller Light and yuck it up with all the other low brow dips***s. Because it's obvious how interested I am in agreeing with the crowd.
Afterward I'll head home and jack off to all the pass interference calls I missed on Monday night football, because penalties are totally awesome bro!
So we're all low brow dips***s because we happen to like that part of the game and the players who have historically been linked with hockey pugilistics? I like that part of hockey history as much as I like the skilled players who made up the game's history.
McGrattan and Engelland will make a man out of him yet.
I like how in your mind "the action" of hockey and penalties are the same thing. You want the league to leave game misconducts alone, so that you can enjoy the "action". Lol. Nevermind what happens between the whistles, that s***'s boring. The real stuff comes after the play is dead. And one day, if we're really lucky, all the fun stuff about hockey will happen after the game is completely over. Then we can just watch Dan Carcillo and Zac Rinaldo beat the s*** out of each other in the parking lot. What a sport that will be.
So if there's a brawl during a Wings game this year and the fans are into it, are you going to come here and post about how boring, stupid and pointless it all was? Or are you going to chant and be entertained like everyone else?
You guys expected someone on this team to stick up for Smith?
Regarding the jersey over the head, Smith was still throwing with it over his head. I'm fine with the refs letting it continue so long as the guy with the jersey over his head is still throwing. The refs have been intervening too early in fights this year, and I think that will be the new norm. It should be enjoyed when a fight is allowed to run its course.
Posted by Euro_Twins
on 15 December 2014 - 12:09 PM
Here's why I think this "the refs should have stopped it sooner" argument is bunk. If Smith had been winning the fight, and the refs stopped it sooner, everybody would be irritated that the refs "should have let them go". When you say "usually the refs jump in TOO early" you're suggesting that they're doing something wrong by getting involved before they SHOULD. And now, you're advocating them getting involved before they DID. It's a judgment call for the refs, and when the fight is going well for our boys, people are almost never in favor of stopping the fight.
If Brendan Smith had the sweater pulled over Panik's head and was serving him his lunch, everybody would have been fine with the refs' inaction. They'd have LOVED seeing a Red Wing win a fight for once. But because Riley's Brother was getting handled it's somehow wrong for the refs to stand back and "let em' go".
I don't buy it.
You're making assumptions here. Not too many people would be happy about that. I wouldn't want to see someone on the wings win a fight by cheating. If he loses fairly then it's all well and good. If he wins fairly then I'm happy. If cheating is involved to create a clear advantage on either side the fight should be stopped immediately.