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#2053807 Are hockey hits harder than football hits?

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 28 October 2010 - 12:55 PM

I agree here, again, as I point out a handful of posts above, the average football hit is going to be more solid and happen more frequently than open ice hockey hits. The numbers and tool above are useful for comparing best case scenario hits, however. It's mostly to counter the arguments that the hardest (reasonably clean) hockey hits aren't as hard as the hardest (reasonably clean) football hits based on 'but football players are much larger!'. That's simply a poor understanding of the physics involved.

One thing worth noting is if you watch a highlight reel of the hardest 'clean' hits in the NHL vs hardest 'clean' hits in the NFL, a lot more of the NFL guys get up and walk away from it. NHL guys subjected to a solid open ice hit usually have their day (week/month/season) wrecked.


Hockey players are still tougher than just about anyone else. Ryan Malone takes a slap shot off the nose, he's back the next period. A baseball player hurts his finger, he's out for a month.


#2053798 10/28 GD: Coyotes 4 at Red Wings 2

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 28 October 2010 - 12:41 PM

Go 3rd line!


#2053571 GDT 10/27

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 27 October 2010 - 10:25 PM

The Devils are playing like hell.

Haha, I made a funny


#2053557 10/28 GD: Coyotes 4 at Red Wings 2

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 27 October 2010 - 10:09 PM

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Coyotes 4, Red Wings 2 Final
Coyotes ride fast start to beat Wings 4-2

Joe Louis Arena - Detroit, MI

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TV/Radio

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Tonight's Stream
http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php?showuser=15741

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Game Preview:
Wings hope to stay hot at home versus Coyotes


Posted ImageAround the NHL
Board of governors, officials association ratify new deal
How does Stamkos do it? Practice, practice, practice
Ovy's comfort zone



Posted Image Western Conference Standings
1. Nashville Predators..............8 GP, 5-0-3, 13 pts
2. Calgary Flames.....................9 GP, 6-3-0, 12 pts
3. Los Angeles Kings..................9 GP, 6,3-0, 12 pts
4. Chicago Blackhawks...............11 GP, 6-4-1, 13 pts
5. Detroit Red Wings..................7 GP, 5-1-1, 11 pts
6. St. Louis Blues.....................7 GP, 4-1-2, 10 pts
7. Columbus Blue Jackets.............8 GP, 5-3-0, 10spts
8. Dallas Stars.......................8 GP, 5-3-0, 10 pts
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9. Vancouver Canucks..................9 GP, 4-3-2, 10 pts
10. San Jose Sharks....................8 GP, 4-3-1, 9 pts
11. Colorado Avalanche.................9 GP, 4-4-1, 9 pts
12. Anaheim Ducks.....................10 GP, 4-5-1, 9 pts
13. Minnesota Wild.....................8 GP, 3-3-2, 8 pts
14. Phoenix Coyotes....................7 GP, 2-3-2, 6 pts
15. Edmonton oilers....................7 GP, 2-4-1, 5 pts



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Posted Image COYOTES
8 GP, 2-3-3, 7 pts
Last Game: Lost to OTT 5-2

Posted Image RED WINGS
7 GP, 5-1-1, 11 pts
Last Game: Defeated ANA 5-4


Last DET-PHX Meeting: 10/16, DET 2 at PHX 1 (OT) Recap

Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFyPX5FNk3I

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Goals
PHX Kyle Turris, Scottie Upshall, Lee Stempniak: 3
DET Johan Franzen: 5

Assists
PHX Ed Jovanovski: 5
DET Todd Bertuzzi, Henrik Zetterberg, Nicklas Lidstrom: 7

Plus/Minus
PHX Adrian Aucoin: +6
DET Henrik Zetterberg: +6
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PHX Keith Yandle, Derek Morris: -5
DET Jiri Hudler, Mike Modano: -6

PIM
PHX Vernon Fiddler: 13
DET Tomas Holmstrom: 14


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Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom
Franzen-Filppula-Bertuzzi
Hudler-Modano-Cleary
Miller-Helm-Eaves (Abdelkader)

Lidstrom-Stuart
Kronwall-Janik
Kindl-Salei


Posted ImageProjected PHX Lines
Upshall-Turris-Wolski
Whitney-Belanger-Doan
Pyatt-Fiddler-Stempniak
Korpikoski-Ebbett-Prucha

Yandle-Morris
Ekman-Larsson-Aucoin
Jovanovski-Lepisto



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Posted Image Ilya Bryzgalov
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Record
2-1-3, 2.65, .921 SV%, 0 SO


versus.

Posted Image Chris Osgood
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Record
1-1-0, 3.03 GAA, .860 SV%, 0 SO





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Martin Hanzal (lower body) out, Shane Hnidy (shoulder) out,
Kurt Sauer (head) out
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Posted Image RED WINGS
Jimmy Howard (back spasms) will not play, Kris Draper (groin) out,
Justin Abdelkader (ribs) cleared to play, Jonathan Ericsson (back) won't play,
Brian Rafalski (knee) out




On Deck
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10/30, Predators at Red Wings; 7:30 PM




#2053334 Goaltender interference? Nah.

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 27 October 2010 - 12:34 PM

Here's a lesson, boys and girls.


GOALIE INTERFERENCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q74-3qIz1bA

NOT GOALIE INTERFERENCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzVm52SLOJQ


#2053315 New Jersey's situation about to explode

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 27 October 2010 - 11:43 AM

Well, he certainly got booed pretty loudly at the Rock a few weeks ago. :lol:


How much noise can 100 people make?


#2053182 Are hockey hits harder than football hits?

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 26 October 2010 - 11:12 PM

American Football is for the weak, real men play Rugby. Much more physical game, no lame pads all over you either.

Besides, american football is not real football, they just stole the name.


Go out there then and stand face to face with a 300 lb lineman and tell me you're not nervous.


#2053023 New Jersey's situation about to explode

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 26 October 2010 - 06:24 PM

Article by Detroit's own Nicholas J. Cotsonika.

The New Jersey Devils’ pursuit of Ilya Kovalchuk(notes) never really added up, and now that they have made their $100 million man a healthy scratch just eight games into his 15-year contract, it makes even less sense.

The specific reason why Kovalchuk didn’t play Saturday night might be a mystery. But whatever the reason, it’s clear there are serious issues within what has been a model NHL franchise – issues that probably can’t be solved easily.

After the Devils’ 6-1 loss to the Buffalo Sabres – a loss that dropped them to 0-4-1 at home, a loss that left them in the basement of the Eastern Conference – coach John MacLean told reporters that scratching Kovalchuk was his decision alone. He said it was between them.

Ilya Kovalchuk has a minus-3 rating but has five points in seven games.
(Andy Marlin/Getty Images)
“I take responsibility for all my decisions that I make,” MacLean told reporters. “That’s including that decision and including responsibility for games.”

Kovalchuk has a minus-3 rating. But he has five points in seven games (two goals, three assists), tied for the team lead in scoring.

Did this stem from a disagreement between MacLean and Kovalchuk? From something Kovalchuk did off the ice? MacLean declined to elaborate, leaving everyone to guess and speculate, and he wouldn’t say whether Kovalchuk would play Sunday night in New York against the Rangers. Kovalchuk and general manager Lou Lamoriello were unavailable for interviews, and players told reporters they didn’t know what was going on.

It’s hard to buy that scratching Kovalchuk was MacLean’s decision alone. He’s a rookie coach dealing with the newly minted face of the franchise, and it wasn’t as simple as sitting one guy and popping in another. The Devils had to call up rookie winger Alexander Vasyunov(notes) from the minors during the day.

Think about that. The Devils decided to go with a 22-year-old kid who had never played an NHL game over one of the top goal-scorers in the game – after signing Kovalchuk to a 17-year, $102 million contract; after watching the NHL reject the contract and an arbitrator rule that it circumvented the salary cap; after signing him to another mega deal; after seeing that one go through only after the league and NHL Players’ Association amended the collective bargaining agreement; after being fined $3 million and losing two high draft picks for their initial transgression; after dressing as few as 15 skaters for a game because Kovalchuk had put them so tight against the cap.

As if that weren’t weird enough, consider this: Kovalchuk plays his best at left wing, but the Devils already have two excellent left wings – Zach Parise(notes) and Patrick Elias. So instead of putting their big-money player at the position where he has made a big impact in his career, they shifted him to the right wing.

And after the Devils beat the Montreal Canadiens on Thursday night, 3-0, they didn’t give goaltender Martin Brodeur(notes) another start after the shutout. They threw in Johan Hedberg(notes) for the first time, only to watch him give up a goal on the first shot he faced and get yanked after allowing four goals on 15 shots.

The fans were not happy. And how could you blame them?

“We all feel horrible about that and horrible about the way [Hedberg] was treated [by the fans],” captain Jamie Langenbrunner(notes) told reporters. “He was out there battling as hard as he can, and he was put in a tough situation. He hadn’t played in nearly a month, and you want to go out there and give your best effort for him, and we didn’t do that.”

There is no question Lamoriello deserves blame. He has painted himself into a corner with too many high salaries and no-trade, no-movement clauses, leaving the team tight against the cap with no room to maneuver.

Some think the Kovalchuk deal wasn’t his idea but owner Jeff Vanderbeek’s, even though Lamoriello has denied that he was just following orders. Lamoriello has been considered one of the best general managers in the league for a long time. He didn’t go dumb overnight, did he?

Either way, the effect is the same. The Devils now have made a massive long-term commitment to a player whom their rookie coach says he decided not to play – after a big road victory, when the team badly needed more positive momentum after a poor start.

If the player is at fault – whatever the reason – that’s a horrible sign for the future. What do his teammates think of him? How can the coach get him going after this?

It isn’t as easy as simply firing the coach. That sends the message that the $100 million man is really the one in charge, perhaps setting up even more problems. And if the coach were at fault, well, then why would Lamoriello have let him scratch Kovalchuk in the first place?



I never would have imagined they'd have gotten off to such a horrid start.


#2052871 I keep having this reoccurring nightmare...

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 26 October 2010 - 11:35 AM

I realize that it is early but the Hawks are 5-4-1


"But itz early and we still have da CORE!!!!"


#2052826 Brown Gets ejected for clean hit

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 26 October 2010 - 10:17 AM

The end of the NHL as we knew it came in 2005.


#2052810 I keep having this reoccurring nightmare...

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 26 October 2010 - 09:26 AM

Having seen your profile picture before, I'm surprised that he chose to go to your house, considering that he prefers less than appealing women to hang out with.

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#2052802 I keep having this reoccurring nightmare...

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 26 October 2010 - 08:59 AM

I don't know whats worse - Chicago repeating or Kane being in your kitchen. Did he mug you for a cookie or something?


#2052789 I keep having this reoccurring nightmare...

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 26 October 2010 - 08:39 AM

How many Calders did they collectively win?


#2052768 Are hockey hits harder than football hits?

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 26 October 2010 - 07:33 AM

Blocking shots with goalie pads=/= diving into the lane with reduced padding and a real injury to get hurt. Nice try, tubby.



Yes, because there are no rules about hitting in the NFL. What a moronic statement.


:lol:

Sorry champ, I don't remember saying that. Good job putting words in my mouth though.

In today's NHL, the rules and regulations of a player's every move make other leagues look like nothing. Of course the NFL has hitting rules. Are they as strict and overused as the NHL? Nope.


#2052641 Red Wings new No.1 in TSN's NHL Power Rankings

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 25 October 2010 - 08:45 PM

Obviously Detroit has the top ranking because the officials love them :rolleyes: