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When Stan said we had to give up the plane and take a team bus because of the cap, I had no idea THIS is what they meant!

I'm officially starting to get annoyed by how long this is dragging out. Modano himself has already said he knows the sooner he makes his decision the better. Especially for the Red Wings, cause if he decides to retire or go to another team, the Wings need time to make a few signings. But with each passing day that goes by, the
market gets smaller and smaller, leaving us with less options. Mike better make his decision sometime this week.
Cause if he doesn't, I think it's time for us to move on and get our team's roster set.

There was no other option, no plan b, read the articles Holland isn't waiting on Modano. Plan a is Modano, plan b is no Modano, it's that simple, and other late summer additions will happen either way. The difference will be the amount of cap space left over and if we have to move Ritola/Meech.

Honestly, I don't think many people in Detroit at the Joe for a concert wouldn't know our top prospects if they were to see them. The problem with drafting in hockey in general is that it will be 3+ years before you see 99% of these guys in the NHL, if at all. Football is different. NCAA football is BIG in the US and once a player is drafted they are usually roster players right away.

edit: They wouldn't know...

That is just that writers expectation, not fact. I haven't heard Osgood say anything about retiring. In fact he has given quite the opposite impression to me. There are certain goals he want's to accomplish and given the year he had last year, he wasn't able to make much headway. Now if this year is the same as last, well then he might look at retirement, I love Jimmy, but I for one see a bounce back year for Ozzie with closer to a 50/50 game distribution, if Osgood plays well.

Take off your Homer glasses and see the facts: Chicago Blackhawks 2010 Stanley Cup Champions. Detroit Red Wings 2010 also rans.

That is the Hockey's Holy Grail grabbed by the nuts.  Mission accomplished. Talon, Bowman & Bowman, whoever, hockey is back in Chicago after a long, long absence.  They could have farted around like Toronto and not gone anywhere and not gotten any picks in return for going no where.  But instead, Chicago took the bull by the horns and won the frickin Stanley Cup.   And now they have a 2010 Stanley Cup and better picks than the Wings do.

The Bowman's were handed a great roster that would self destruct at the stroke of midnight after the '09-'10 season, and they are getting a lot more out of the scrap pile than anyone thought they would.

A core group of awesome talent (a ton of Olympians), and some periphery players to fill in and step up.  Where's the sarcasm you're hoping for?

It's one thing to hate your rivals, but it's another thing to underestimate them.

Stan and Scotty Bowman have virtually nothing to do with the Stanley Cup winning roster... Dave Tallon built it, and the mess that came with it. As far as the off season, it's not a stroke of brilliance it's the obvious move to get draft picks for players. There isn't an option A B C or D... there is only an option A... shed salary, get picks in return... any GM would be doing the same thing, the best one and the worst one would have to make the same decision. No one is arguing that Scotty Bowman isn't one of the greatest minds in hockey and that his son Stan probably inherited some of that knowledge... We're just saying you can't credit, nor fault them for the Cup or the mess... let's see where Chicago is in five years before we go crowning Stan the savior of Chi-Town.

With all due respect why would Modano have any emotional tie to Probert, other than basic human emotion. Lidstrom, Draper Homer?? Ken Holland, Osgood? Would want to win one for Probie before Modano would, Modano would probably like to win one for Modano!

yea, minus that whole eating 1.375 of cap space for a player that isn't on the team - if he signs a 2 year, he better fulfill it...

Retired salaries do not count against the cap.

Getzlaf is one of the 10 or 15 best forwards in the league.

And he's always been great in the playoffs.  He owned us in the playoffs two years ago if you haven't forgotten already.  And he's won as many Cups as Zetterberg has.

It's O.K. to like Zetterberg, but your post made it sound like Getzlaf is slightly better than Dan Cleary.  That's the kind of homer bias that's getting annoying around here.

No you interpreted my statement that way. Getz is a great player and a top 15, 10 on his best day but...in my opinion he isn't even on the same level as Z or Dats for that matter. Z and Dats will never win Harts or Rockets, thats not the Wings system. It's not homerism, its called watching hockey and judging the player by more than just their stats column on NHL.com, maybe you do that and you have a different view thats fine, but based on those areas of the game that are subject to interpretation that form the basis of my opinion.

Hank has intangibles that Getz can never have. Zetterberg shuts down other teams forwards like no one else in the game, (besides Datsyuk)and still finds a way to score during the playoffs, I don't give a rats ass who has more goals in the regular season, it's the playoffs where I judge the Wings. Let the Ducks chase regular season stats.

On your second comment, Nick Lidstrom is still a top five defenseman in the league at 40, and top five of all time, to suggest that Getz is on his best day a top fifteen, maybe a top ten forward in this league to suggest that he is better than any one player on our entire roster is just plain stupid.

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Guys... if it's a two-way deal there is really no harm. If we are deep and don't need him, well then he will hang out in GR, if we have injuries or if some of our younger players lose their heads, well then we'll have a tried and true Red Wing available to call up.

Maybe we should call the Red Wings and ask to speak permission Ryan Martin for the LGW Capologist??

It's mostly about the media. All they showed for the most part was the one incident, and focused on the injury to Steve Moore.

Luckily the powers that be let Bertuzzi back in the game.

I sympathize for Bertuzzi, as I understand that what he did was an accident, but I realize in this day and age if you paralyze someone it doesn't matter why you did it, just that he is paralyzed and you did it.

Now I could go on a diatribe about the actually court case and how I pretty much lost all respect for Steve Moore, but that's not completely relevant so I'll let that be.

Steve Moore is not paralyzed... Bertuzzi broke his neck, but did not damage his spinal cord. Steve walks and talks just fine, he is just too fragile to take a chance playing hockey again. He can do everything you and I can do, albiet in more pain. This is not to defend anything, I have my opinion on the issue and I will keep it to myself, I simply want people to know the facts.

I said before the game, "IF we win, I am going to buy a Jimmy Howard jersey" so congrats Jim, i will be wearing your name on my back.

I beat you to it. I bought mine on the Monday before the playoffs began. I wasn't a Howard fan at all prior to this season, and early on he did little to change my mind. However his calming play from November on converted me. Although I believe that if given the opportunity that Ozzie could have played through his slump... it simply wasn't an option for the Wings to gamble with points this season, and by the time that we did have a playoff spot locked up it was simply not long enough to get Ozzie ready.

Jimmy had to be the guy, and so far he's done a great job of it. I hope to see him here for a long time to come.

Stopped reading at "class".

Me too. I'm so tired of that word just lately.

Oh and grats on 3k posts.

I stopped reading when it listed the author as being from the Phoenix Coyotes Examiner.

Read the first few sentences and had to stop. I think my brain was starting to melt or something.

I am a Detroit fan... therefore I cannot read!

No No... you did that on your own.