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In Topic: Matt Wuest Prospect Tournament Thread

13 September 2015 - 10:26 PM

Huh. Thanks for your perspective. Mantha looks pretty good in those highlights. He scores 2 goals and started the play for the first one. It's hard for me to imagine that the guy that gets the game winner+1 out of 3. can be a "total let down." But I wasn't there so you had much more to judge on. He does have lax body language (maybe there's a better word for it). Even when he scores the first goal he looks like little effort is being exerted.

I missed his first goal...was trying to find a seat but I just saw it in the YT clip. I'll have to find the minute mark but there is a play that, at the time, I thought was his best play of the game. He had the puck and circled around with possession for awhile in front of CHI net. But the telling thing, upon re watching it it on the YT clip is what he does as soon as he looses the puck. He just gets lost...skates off and watches the play. Where he's at, he should have went right to the front of the net to get a rebound. If he doesn't get the puck in the offensive zone, it's like he doesn't even care that he has it. I watched guys battle him, take the puck, and it's like he just isn't phased...no big deal. Hicketts lost the puck to a guy and got so pissed that he ran him, the guy crushed him, but he still got up and went after him. When Larkin loses the puck to a guy, good luck dealing with him afterwards. Mantha doesn't have that bone in his body. 

In Topic: Matt Wuest Prospect Tournament Thread

13 September 2015 - 08:43 PM

Ok guys...


I was there the first two days and had an absolute blast. Talked to Brodeur, Peverly, Wallin, Adam Graves, Barry Smith, Dave Taylor, Draper, Maltby, Ken Hitchcock, etc and thats just the guys i talked to. I watched both games super closely though and here's my take...


1. Dylan Larkin - Played what seemed like double shifts. Took every important draw. Hustles like a mad man...was clearly the highest upside kid out there, but just short of dominated.

2. Jake Paterson (goalie) - Way better than his scouting reports. Just short of dominated. Super solid, never rattled.
3. Andreas Athanasiou - Easily the most advanced kid on the ice. Crazy hustle, super fast, good hands. Would be a lock to make the team if we hadn't of signed Cleary, while already having too many forwards.
4. Tyler Bertuzzi - Wasn't a dominant as last year. Wasn't nearly as noticeable. One of the only kids to consistently get physical though.
5. Joe Hicketts - Hockey's Dustin Pedroia. Leader, solid, driven but tiny. When he coughed up the puck, he got pissed and went after the guy only to get leveled. Never quits though.
6. Ville Saarijarvi - Looks like Pulkkinen. Quite poised for being 18.
7. Evgeni Svechnikov - Super stoked that we drafted him. Is built as well as any of our kids, if not better. Classic Wings type player...two way guy, 200 ft game, with real nice upside.

Last but certainly least...

Anthony Mantha - I watched him closer than any kid there. Total letdown. Looks worse than last year. Had a goal but doesn't look like he even cares about playing. Coasts the entire game. Almost never wins battles. Kids that are Joe Hicketts size beat him to pucks and in battles. Im not convinced the kid will ever play more than a handful of games in the league let alone ever dominate. I don't see him having more than 45-50 points in GR, tops. All the terrible scouting reports from his draft year, that i really couldn't believe, are spot on. Has the size, reach, skill, etc to be Corey Perry 2.0 but he has less spunk than Franzen, if thats possible. When he got that chance to score you could tell that he kicked it into "now I'm going to try mode"...and he scored. Its so frustrating watching him...its everything that drives us nuts about Franzen but he doesn't have the confidence that Franzen has.



fyi...its hard to see, but my Wife and two kids are in the first row in view during the big fight. Also, in person, that fight was awesome. I haven't saw a good tilt like that in awhile.


As for other teams, i watched Dallas, Carolina, and St. Louis. 


Carolina - Tolchinsky. Tiny but he has great hands and is quite confident with the puck.

Dallas - Deep team. Stephen Johns is a beast; poised. Julius Honka was the best young D I watched at the tourney. Jan mark didn't do anything special.

St. Louis - Robbi Fabbri.

In Topic: Red Wings acquire Marek Zidlicky from NJ for Cond. 2016 3rd Round Pick

02 March 2015 - 01:30 PM

God all these conditions are crazy.


I like them though...GM's have figured out how to minimize risk.


I love this deal. Point producing, puck moving RH shot at very minimal cost.

In Topic: Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

02 March 2015 - 12:23 AM


Not to mention, I'm not sure that giving former players important jobs within the organization is such a good thing.  Especially if they haven't proven themselves.  I don't care if Maltby is a scout, or Draper is an assistant.  But I would be very reluctant to make a former player the GM or Coach or President of the team just because it would be popular with the fans. 


Wanna know why?


These guys...




You're right. You're so right...so many teams have blew it by doing that. But like i was saying, I would bet that Yzerman would have been still more of an Assistant than given the full reigns, even if he were named GM. If Holland would have accepted it, insure he still would have had a lot of say in decisions and not let Yzerman make a ton of rookie mistakes.

In Topic: Red Wings acquire Erik Cole, conditional 3rd from Stars

02 March 2015 - 12:12 AM



Then you obviously know nothing about me you 29 year old fool. You've only been following the wings for 21 years? Pathetic.


Thanks again...im sure you got some more venom for me. I stopped several posts ago. My response to you was only for perspectives sake...because they are very different scenarios, even if the structure is the same.

If Illitch really wanted Yzerman to replace Holland, you don't think he could have done this? Pretty sure a franchise that has helped Russians defect, could force a current GM to step aside. To me, Ilitch was trying to do some damage control when Yzerman left (for the sake of fans like you) by saying "I love Stevie, I did everything I could to get him to stay", when really he was probably thinking "I love Stevie, but Kenny's the best GM in the NHL, so I probably shouldn't force him to give up his job to a rookie GM"

Just my opinion, of course.


I think you're right. Ilitch could have MADE it happen...but i don't think he's that type of guy. And I think, as I said in a previous post, that Holland still would have had significant say in what went on, so it wouldn't exactly be like completely handing Stevie the reigns.


PS...If no one has got the point yet, i didn't use my age as some ultimate stick of authority. Clearly I'm not old or know everything. I said it because i wanted to back up my point that i wasn't judging on "vibes" and that i have a long history of playing and following the game enough to not base a judgement on how feel every 10 minutes.