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Posted by achildr1 on 22 November 2011 - 06:33 AM
With Parises age and ability I cant believe people wouldnt want to go for him at the deadline. This team would be a very, very serious contender if they got him.
Yeah deals like Kovalchuk and Hossa seemed high at the time but thats the point. WHen you trade prospect theres never a sure thing.
Tatar, Kindl and a first rounder would probably be close to what it takes to make that deal.
Theres a chance Tatar becomes a producer, but they still arent that high.
Most of the wings prospects wont come to the NHL until around 23. At that age Parise had 2 30 goal seasons, and on the verge of almost hitting 50. Hes one season removed from 40 goals and 80 points and still has probably 8 HIGHLY productive years left in him.
Not all these prospects are going to pan out, should trade some while they have value for a proven commodity, than just hope that they arent the one that pans out
I know this may sound crazy but I think Kindl is the one in that deal Id have a hard time dealing right now. We have a bunch of good, young forwards but outside of Smith and Kindl, the blueline is thin. Kindl has really impressed me this year and could theoretically end up being a #3-#4 guy in this league. Kronwall, Smith, and Kindl provide a pretty decent defensive foundation for the post-Nick era.
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Posted by achildr1 on 21 November 2011 - 12:01 PM
It all depends where the Devils are come the trade deadline. If they are in the hunt or close to making the playoffs I don't see them trading Parise. And that's fine with me let him test the free agency market come July 1st. Would rather try and get him that way than losing whoever it would cost us, probably 2 roster players and a 1st rounder would be my guess. Although we could definitely use him and our top 6 forwards would be killer but we are going to have to wait it out booooooooooooooooo
If the Devils do trade him, the Kovalchuk deal would probably be the template. Although I think Lou Lam knows he hosed the Thrashers.
1st + 2nd round picks
Nyquist, Jarnkrok, or Tatar
Abdelkader or Ericsson
1st + 2nd
If we could get away with that, I'd be thrilled.
Posted by achildr1 on 21 November 2011 - 09:15 AM
I'm sure there are some out there who expect Zetterberg to put up that 40 goal/90 point production but I think the majority of people expect more the 30 goals/75-80 point production. When he's engaged he is capable of being a point per game player.
He's "capable" of 90 points. But I'm starting to wonder if Z's real zone is a bit lower then we are expecting. Maybe he's really a 70 point guy.
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Posted by achildr1 on 21 November 2011 - 08:05 AM
i'm not gonna hate on bertuzzi aside from all his unnecessary giveaways, but homer on the other hand... there's a difference between "role player" and "one-dimensional" and homer is the latter. i was the one that started the "what's up with Zetterberg" topic purely cause i haven't been able to watch hockey cause i'm not in North America where i can watch it. but with Zetterberg, you expect him to produce around a point a game pace. i've been waiting for homer to hang them up for years. taking places of departed players like leino who can actually hack top 6 play, but was a terrible fit on the bottom 6. tatar and nyquist should definitely be on this team next year. i'm just glad guys like rafalski retired when they realized they couldn't produce at the level they should be at cause they're too beaten up from injuries. homer will play out the rest of the year and he needs to retire in the offseason. i really hope babcock plays "the best players" in the playoffs, and if that means that our 3rd line is tatar/nyquist/mursak to help the wings win the cup, then so be it.
I would take Homer over Leino everyday. Leino was lazy and talked crap about us after he left. He was terrible with us and is a little bit different version of Hudler. Which we need like we need more players with the defensive awareness of Jonathan Ericsson. Homer probably plays some of the hardest minutes of anyone in the league and not only survives, he thrives. If he isn't the best in the league at what he does anymore, he's #2. If Leino played 13 minutes a game I seriously doubt he'd match Homer's normal production. He is "one dimensional" but he has always been and although this should probably be his last year, he's fine by me. Dude's got 4 Cup rings for a reason.
I know this will almost certainly ruffle more than a few's feathers, but I can't say I'm super surprised with Zetterberg's play. Zetterberg, while owning a ton of hockey sense, never really stood out to me in a pure skill/self-sustaining point producer sense. Datsyuk does but not Z. He's a great two-way guy but I think the 40 goal, 90 point Z isn't what we should expect from him. I've never felt that if Datsyuk were gone, that Zetterberg could carry the team from an offensive standpoint. Also, he's the Brad Pitt of his country, has a Cup ring, Olympic Gold, Conn Smythe, a Celeb wife, and a lifetime contract. How much motivation does he have to have?
If that's our third line, some serious problems better have arose because that line is greener than a spring pasture. I'm all for playing kids, especially when the veterans float around like they're all on lifetime contracts...but JV teams are for the the Islanders and Oilers, not the Wings.
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Posted by achildr1 on 22 October 2011 - 12:19 PM
Great fight by E.
Like the nastiness from him before it too.
I like his physical play before the fight, because thats what he needs to do to earn any part of his ridiculously inflated contract. He needs to be locked in a room, fed only protein bars, raw red meat, and made to watch video of Jiri Fischer's short career 24/7. The kid, as it stands right now, is a waste of talent, size, and 3+ million dollars. He needs to focus on his defensive awareness and physical play first and worry about putting up points in about two years. He's not good at anything right now on a consistent basis. One night he puts up a couple assists, the next 12 nights he looks lost. One night he has a fight and a goal, the next 3 months he makes pylons look like little orange Rod Langways. I can't believe I'm saying this, but he could learn from Lilja's career with the Wings. Lilja was the epitome of useless for the majority of his Wings career, but learned how to play defense and block shots by the time he left. Just focus on using that size and strength, the element the Wings need!
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Posted by achildr1 on 24 September 2011 - 07:35 AM
I would agree with that. Honestly Homer shouldn't have gotten that extra year on his contract. Brunnstrom could be our new Sammy but with better offensive talent if he learns how to play defense.
Homer is a cheap, powerplay specialist with near unrivaled skills at what he does. I'd still take Homer over Sammy, everyday and twice on Sunday.
The thing with the Wings this year is we lack offense we can count on past Pav and Hank. Our suppossed secondary scoring options are either extremely streaky (Hudler, Franzen, Bertuzzi) or injury prone (Cleary, Filppula). Homer offers a unique skill set, unrivaled powerplay skills, playoff experiance, and a low salary for it all. This will almost certainly be his last year, but given our streaky, injury prone forwards and inexperiance of the next wave (Mursak, Tatar), I'm glad he is signed for this year.
Posted by achildr1 on 25 July 2011 - 03:34 PM
Posted by achildr1 on 07 July 2011 - 10:17 PM
I would like to get rid of Hudler, but not for a bag of pucks, and not to replace with Zherdev or even freakin' Alex "Karate Slap" Semin. If we can't get a true, skilled, 100% effort guy in our top 6 then we might as well keep shuffling Hudler in for this last year and see if he's truely useless rather than replacing him with guys who are essentially the same players, even if it means 30 more points. Who would seriously want to see Semin locked up here long term? That's terrifying. As if Franzen and Ericsson refusing to be physical wouldn't be enough for LGW, we then pick up a 155 lbs, Russian slap fighter with a penchant for slacking? No thank you.
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Posted by achildr1 on 02 June 2011 - 07:53 PM
Note: Cap should be at least $62 mill next year. Richards takes Datsyuk's salary after Holland tells him he can only make more than Pavel if he can take the puck from him. Richards signs before ever trying. We sign a hometown, offensive defenseman. Osgood stays because Holland adopts him as his son. Ericsson stays because he knows his flaws would be exploited elsewhere. We don't sign a tough guy because size is our enemy and strength is weakness. Hudler disappears, like last summer and most of his NHL shifts.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Brad Richards ($6.700m) / Tomas Holmstrom ($1.875m)
Daniel Cleary ($2.800m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / Johan Franzen ($3.954m)
Justin Abdelkader ($0.787m) / Valtteri Filppula ($3.000m) / Todd Bertuzzi ($1.937m)
Jan Mursak ($0.550m) / Darren Helm ($0.912m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.500m)
Cory Emmerton ($0.533m) / Kris Draper ($0.800m)
Nicklas Lidstrom ($5.000m) / Niklas Kronwall ($3.000m)
Brad Stuart ($3.750m) / James Wisniewski ($4.500m) or Andy Greene ($3.5-$4)
Jonathan Ericsson ($1.700m) / Jakub Kindl ($0.883m)
Brendan Smith ($0.875m)
Jimmy Howard ($2.250m) / Chris Osgood ($1.000m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $61,092,044; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$1,692,044
Disclaimer: This is all under the not so likely assumption that we would actually sign Brad Richards. I highly doubt its going to happen. Most likely (if our needs are 2 defenseman, a backup goalie, and a top 9 forward) we'll end up with a Ruslan Salei clone, Tomas Kaberle (Schnieder was terrible and he played here!), Osgood (duh!), and Dale Hawerchuck (since Modano is probably done).
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Posted by achildr1 on 16 May 2011 - 02:40 PM
"Man, Rafalski is so overpaid. He makes $6m and couldn't even stay healthy. WTF?"
Rafalski for five years at $6m was an absolute steal when it was signed. He's still a legit #1 defenseman now. He's not top ten like he was, but still very good and still one of the elite offensive defensemen.
Legit #1 defenseman? I was under the impression that elite defenseman can play defense. After watching him this playoff I thinly he's as close to being a PP specialist dman like Foster or Bergeron than he is to be an elite all-around guy like Lidstrom.
He may be the legit #1 guy on Florida or Columbus but that's more of a slight to them then an affirmation of talent to Rafalski.
I don't know that anyone is eager to see Miller leave. Just that he is among the more expendable or replaceable.
This. Miller game is more easily replaced by a younger, potential-laden prospect than any other players. Just so happens that we have to decide whether we should keep Emmerton and Mursak on the team next year and I for one hope that Miller doesn't get the spot over either one of them.
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Posted by achildr1 on 14 May 2011 - 08:54 PM
How did Homer look playing first line this year? His scoring was what? Oh yeah 2 points behind Flip.
It appears that the OP has criteria that three first line "types" in the elite sense must populate the first line. Rarely if ever is that really the case. Flip may not be 1989 Stevie Y, but he is great at creating space which has been lacking for Zetterberg in particular the last 2 years.
This is such a terrible comparison. Homer is a regressing, near 40 year old, PP specialist on a team with a bad PP. Filppula should be a top 2 line guy but doesn't produce when he plays there. Homer may likely be done because he doesn't put up the numbers he should and isn't suited to be a bottom 6 guy.
In fact, I don't believe that the top line should be all elite players. Most teams can't do that in the cap world. What I do believe is neccessary is, lf you have two elite guys, you should have at least 3 guys that are legitimate, point producing 2nd line types. We have 2 of those guys, both of whom can barely play 70 games. How many of the guys on this team could put up points without playing with Datsyuk or Zetterberg? Were basically a team of 3 rd line guys after our two elite players. I'd just like to see that change a bit.