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#2428721 Abdelkader Hypothetical

Posted by achildr1 on 08 July 2013 - 06:46 AM

Solid grinder, nothing more. 
Should stick to centering our 4th line in in my opinion. 

I don't see why he ever plays center to be honest. He's a protypical, grinding winger. He is the mold for a 3rd/4th line winger. He doesn't skate or pass like a center. Add that to how we may have the best bottom two centers in the league (Helm and Andersson) and it doesn't make a ton of sense for him to be there.

Abby is a waste in the top 6. It was fun watching him last year but I really think 35- 40 points is his ceiling and that wouldn't justify his playing time. Honestly, this just made me realize how much we need a Homer type (but he has to be better than Cleary). It would be nice to have Brunner, we need a shooter, but he could truly be Bruunstrom/Leino all over again.

Nyquist. Datsyuk. Franzen
Zetterberg. Weiss. Alfredsson
Tatar. Andersson. Bertuzzi

Those are three great lines. I wish people would realize how good Nyquist, Tatar, and Andersson are. I think Andersson will be one of the best third line players in the league very soon. Tatar brings so much to the table. You'll be hard pressed to find anyone higher on Nyquist than me.

no way abby gets 20.

Don't forget that 5 of them will be empty netters...

#2427308 is anyone happy right now?

Posted by achildr1 on 05 July 2013 - 03:01 PM

We are better than we were last year. Alfredsson and Weiss are better than Filppula and Cleary.

Yep...and as much as everyone thinks otherwise, Tatar could be better than Brunner this year. And he's younger, cheaper, with more potential. Offseason win for the Wings.
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I think were miles better. I would have loved bobby Ryan, but Ottawa gave up a ton for him. Silverberg is likely going to be better than every one of our prospects, and he may end up being better than Ryan as well[/quotel]

Right. Whoever said Silfverberg is "next to nothing" doesn't follow hockey close enough. Noesen isn't a chump in his own right. That first round pick could easily be 15-20 too.

#2427272 Bobby Ryan to Ottawa

Posted by achildr1 on 05 July 2013 - 02:44 PM

Dunno if I'd have given up Nyquist AND Pulkkinen to make this deal, but two prospects and a first for Ryan is quite the bargain for Ottawa.

I personally believe Nyquist will be a 60 point guy before long...add in Pulkkinen and and a 1st, no thanks.

#2427109 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by achildr1 on 05 July 2013 - 01:54 PM

This sucks but Tatar deserves his big chance

Exactly. Tatar has put in several years in GR a couple short call ups, should have stayed last year. Tatar EARNED his shot.

#2427063 Wings sign Stephen Weiss, 5-years, $24.5m

Posted by achildr1 on 05 July 2013 - 01:38 PM

Tatar > Brunner

Tatar may actually be the better player...and he's younger and more physical. He has earned the spot and playing time.

#2427021 Wings sign Stephen Weiss, 5-years, $24.5m

Posted by achildr1 on 05 July 2013 - 01:27 PM

4.9 is a steal in a weak FA class when teams want to overspend.

This is a great signing. Replace Fil with a better player fora reasonable term and cap hit. Doesnt get much better.

#2427009 Wings sign Stephen Weiss, 5-years, $24.5m

Posted by achildr1 on 05 July 2013 - 01:25 PM

Weiss > Filppula
Tatar > Brunner
Alfredsson is a bonus
Cleary is probably gone...bonus #2

#2426769 Ribiero to the Coyotes for 4 yr/$22m

Posted by achildr1 on 05 July 2013 - 12:20 PM

Holy smokes, they must not be too bankrupt....

This stuff pisses me off so bad. Hey! We're bankrupt! We need your money Glendale! Please keep us here! Then they throw the bank at Mike Ribiero of all players...just stupid.

#2423591 Letang Re-signed 8 yrs. $58 million

Posted by achildr1 on 30 June 2013 - 10:55 AM

Wow. Overpayment of the year for sure. I'm so glad we have Kenny. Dats, Z, and Kronwall's deals are all steals.

#2423510 2013 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by achildr1 on 30 June 2013 - 08:12 AM

Good thinking.

I'm really excited for this draft. Super deep draft. We have the lowest pick I've ever personally seen us have. There should be a flurry of trade activity today.

Things I'm looking for...

-Flames GM Jay Feaster will do something dumb AND make at least one draft decision that makes people wonder why he's still an NHL GM
-Columbus trades one of thier 3 first round picks
-Colorado takes MacKinnon, Patrick Roy says something stupid at one point or another
-Florida takes Jones, Tallon personally thanks Colorado
-At least one team trades to get into the top 10
-Leafs do something dumb (this is partially a wish)
-Columbus has its best draft ever

#2423382 CGY-COL: Tanguay and Sarich in exchange for Jones and O'Brien

Posted by achildr1 on 29 June 2013 - 03:43 PM

Wow. Too bad Chris Drury, Ville Niemenen, and Scott Parker ain't around. Look for Aebischer to be signed in the next couple days ;)

#2421756 Lidstrom or Orr

Posted by achildr1 on 24 June 2013 - 12:42 PM

That's part of it, but they're also much more athletic. Lateral movement is an actual thing now, not just standing around until it's time to stack the pads.

Butterfly goaltending basically didn't exist in the 70's, pads were very heavy and small, and goalies were ENCOURAGED to stay standing and not to go down. Couple that with a near complete lack of defensive and positioning structure at the time and you have a recipe for the unheard of point production of the 70's and 80's. Simply put...Lidstrom putting up 70 plus points in 2000 is like Orr putting up 115 or more in the early 70's. Except Lidstrom did it without rushing the puck like a forward...even if Orr was better, I don't think its near as far apart as some people will tell you.

#2421719 Lidstrom or Orr

Posted by achildr1 on 24 June 2013 - 09:33 AM

Am I the only person here who thinks that Orr would not be able to score at all in today's game? Seriously, most of his goals were garbage. He was allowed to just skate around the O zone without anyone laying a body on him. Nobody blocked shots back then like they do today. Finally, goalies have improved a s*** ton since the '70s.

Its stuff like this that makes comparing players from different eras very hard. I think Orr would still be good but not otherworldly dominating good. Orr revolutionalized hockey for defenseman, he was a great skater, scorer, and he would fight. He was Wayne Gretzky on defense.

Your right though. The game has become incredibly more refined, coached, and defended. I think its starting to settle into the zone where it won't change much anymore without large rule changes because they've really exploited out the games deficiencies. That said, Lidstrom played during the end of the freewheeling era, the dead puck era, and the post cap era. His most clear dominance though was during the dead puck era when some teams top scorer would have 55 points. This guy was putting up 70 from defence without rushing the puck like Orr. He did all this while being the best defensive defenseman in the game with little to no physical game...I believe he was the best ever during the most refined era of hockey to date.

#2400585 Ryan Sproul: OHL D-Man of the Year

Posted by achildr1 on 09 May 2013 - 08:46 AM

I'm real excited about this kid. He seems to have at least #3 type tools. Dekeyser, Smith, Sproul, Ouellett, and Backman looks very deep considering Ericsson and Kindl are progressing nicely.

#2400573 Which things from the past (not just Wings related) do you miss most?

Posted by achildr1 on 09 May 2013 - 06:56 AM

Dominance, having either the best PP or PK or both, Jiri Fischer, having tough players on our team, guys that just shoot and are actually good at it (Shanny and Hull), one timers, old time hockey, fights, the feeling that both teams are beginning to seriously dislike each other, real rivalries, a time when i felt like whoever won a series was actually the better team, and a time when i felt like there wasnt so much questionable influence from Bettman/the league in suspensions, playoff series, or the draft lottery. I miss Draper's ethic, Lidstrom's dominance, Shanny/Hull's slapshot, Yzerman's whole game, and Duschene's smile. I miss the "must see TV" feeling of Wings/Avs. I miss knowing that the Wings would get someone at the trade dealine. I miss real, physical play. When everybody hit everybody and you didnt see guys getting runned because they made a clean hit.






Yeah, you're right. I remember him for the same thing, and just regarded Homer as his successor.
I miss those Dino/Homer types.
Is there another player along those lines out there at the moment?


I miss Homer and Lidstrom and not just because we arent as good without them. I miss watching the way they played. I was 11 when Homer was entering the league and I was starting to get serious about my own play in hockey. I very much modeled my game to a Maltby/Homer hybrid as I wasn't a dangler but was a pest and scored garbage goals aplenty. I used to practice deflecting pucks for hours on end and loved filling that role on my team. Even after i stopped playing, I loved watching Homer be the best at what he did. I was always a forward, although i played on my various team's PK unit, growing up but as I got older I became much more interested in game philosophy and the defensive part of the game and thats when i started to really watch Lidstrom. To me, outside of Datsyuk, Lidstrom was the most fun player on the Wings to watch because of how utterly brilliant he was. I think you have to know the game pretty intimatly to really grasp what he could do and I think I had to get older (then when I was young teen) to even understand him.