achildr1

Ericsson and kindl are just garbage players..
Omg Conklin is s***..

Kindl is ok. Ericsson has like zero hockey sense and even less confidence. I'm still blown away that Holland extended that pylon.

"Here's the big line, Deharnais, Pachorietty, and Cole"

Haha, that would be our third line.

"Jonathan Ericsson playing the role of Nick Lidstrom tonight" - Pierre....ugh.

Being paired with Nick Lidstrom can cause a career resurgence but exposure to that much awesome has also been known to induce stuttered, incoherent ranting and a raging addiction to hot dogs.

Its plays like this that are probably going to lead to huge problems with suspensions in the future. If you can get suspended for that play, where your point of contact almost certainly didn't cause the play, what happens next time when your a repeat offender? Zetterberg the repeat offender? All it takes in the fast game today is someone to lose their footing or turn their back to you at just the right time and suddenly our stars (the ones who aren't out with concussions mind you) are benched. The real interesting time will be the playoffs, because if they keep this up I wouldn't be surprised if opposing players (Ott, Cooke, The Vancouver Canucks)  start to get themselves in these situations, essentially diving for suspensions. Not to mention the double standard/inconsistent calling of them that we will almost certainly see. This is a really crazy and pivotal time in the history of the game, the speed, concussions, and how we deal with them is starting to really threaten the future.

My realistic attempt...

Howe.              Larionov.           Hull
Verbeek.          Lindsay.            Ogrodnick.
Redmond.        Brown.              Ciccerreli
Klima.                 Burr.                 Kocur      

Murphy.           Ward
Fischer.            Duschene
Dandenault.   M.Howe

Vernon
Chevaldae?

Would like to see Fetisov and Kozlov.
Doubt the recently retired play. If one does it would probably be McCarty.

Hudler, Miller, Smith, 2nd rounder for Subban and Moen

Not a chance. Smith could easily be the next Subban as early as next year. I wouldn't trade Smith for Subban straight up, too much baggage already.

You are right.  I thought he was only out 1 game and it was 4.  Thanks for the correction.

Aside from that, I think you are going overboard on your analysis.  Think back to 1996 and 1997 up until the playoffs when Colorado "owned" the Wings.  The Shanahan trade really was huge, but we gave up Coffey and Primeau, who were good players.  I don't see anything the Wings are willing to give up for a player like that this year.  

This year, things will be different than last year.  San Jose is a different team.  Chicago is a different team.  St. Louis is a very different team.  Size means very little when you factor in grit and hard work.  I see these things from the Wings more this year than last year.  If you can't see it by their defensive play alone, then I can't help you.  

What people want is for us to give up a s*** player for a exceptional one, and no team is going to make a trade for that.  I would hope that Holland would NOT trade our future away.  We have cap space, but what we don't have right now are prospects in the system that are exceptional players.  I don't see the next Dats and Z in the system.  I don't see the next Lids in the system either.  I see good players, but no one who is going to light it up.  When Z and Dats are gone, what are the Wings going to do if they traded away their future today?

Just something to think about.  We have far too many people who believe that trading our future away right now is the way to go.  We need to be more careful especially in the salary cap era.

What I see (even though I think higher of our prospects than you) is that even if we don't have the next Datsyuk, we have enough very good prospects to package with a player and a pick for the next elite player we need. I really think the Wings have the prospects to get almost any of the up coming FA if the other teams are willing to deal.
I think we would still have a good farm system after that trade as well. I've never seen our cupboard as full as it is now.

So we all gonna sport the Islanders jerseys we got for $12.97? Lol.

And the hilarious thing is that they've gone from 1st in the East all the way down to 8th in the matter of a month. I have no pity for them whatsoever. The bandwagon is emptying on that team quickly right now.

Good, I like to see Pens fans humbled. That lineup looks like an AHL roster. Lets see what the refs and Dan Bylsma can do with that rag tag group.

Corey Perry, Sidney Crosby, Logan Couture, Joe Thornton, and Ryan Kesler.

I just don't ever want to see their faces ever again. Perry, Crosby, and Couture faces are like splinters in my eyes that just have to go away.

Rumours swirling on Toronto sport radio that it will be Detroit/Toronto in Detroit.

I'm not so sure only because it seems like more of an all American thing now.

Isn't that all they do in Toronto anyway? The first time I ever went to Toronto there was a picture of Eric Lindros playing in a Leafs jersey on the front of the Toronto Sun...except he had never and was not playing for them at that point. Toronto is Eklund of hockey cities.

Who isn't surprised that Bettman wouldn't put the Wings in the East? All about the Benjamins...

Ok, when are people going to understand that leaving the ice 2 inches with your skates doesn't mean he's leaving his feet to hit a guy. The nature of body checks seems prove that its going to happen more often then not. I seen no maliciousness there.

With Parises age and ability I cant believe people wouldnt want to go for him at the deadline. This team would be a very, very serious contender if they got him.

Yeah deals like Kovalchuk and Hossa seemed high at the time but thats the point. WHen you trade prospect theres never a sure thing.

Tatar, Kindl and a first rounder would probably be close to what it takes to make that deal.

Theres a chance Tatar becomes a producer, but they still arent that high.

Most of the wings prospects wont come to the NHL until around 23. At that age Parise had 2 30 goal seasons, and on the verge of almost hitting 50.  Hes one season removed from 40 goals and 80 points and still has probably 8 HIGHLY productive years left in him.

Not all these prospects are going to pan out, should trade some while they have value for a proven commodity, than just hope that they arent the one that pans out

I know this may sound crazy but I think Kindl is the one in that deal Id have a hard time dealing right now. We have a bunch of good, young forwards but outside of Smith and Kindl, the blueline is thin. Kindl has really impressed me this year and could theoretically end up being a #3-#4 guy in this league. Kronwall, Smith, and Kindl provide a pretty decent defensive foundation for the post-Nick era.