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In Topic: 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

20 December 2014 - 03:49 PM

I just read some random facebook comment that there is a Franzen for Hall trade in the works with the Oilers. He said look it up. I did'nt bother. That's just insane, but the Oilers management is pretty dumb...lol

 

 

 

That would be tremendous! LOL! Here we go! Franzen, Helm, Smith, Pulkkinen and rights to Backman for Hall, Petry.

See... see what you've done.  Just great... You've gotten his hopes up "chaps."  Thanks a wholef****** lot. :nono:


In Topic: 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

20 December 2014 - 03:14 PM

I just read some random facebook comment that there is a Franzen for Hall trade in the works with the Oilers. He said look it up. I did'nt bother. That's just insane, but the Oilers management is pretty dumb...lol

Trolls are gonna trollolololololololol


In Topic: 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

20 December 2014 - 12:31 PM

Do you have Franzen's cell phone number and play poker with the guy when he is not on the ice? I feel like you're his PR on this forum. The guy is having an awful year. I mean I have his jersey too and I loved him but can't you admit that his 6 goals in 2 games and 0 in the next 20 every year can get a bit tiresome and that he floats a lot? We are all huge fans here but you simply can't tell me he isn't a problem and that other fans aren't allowed to point this out if they want to on a Red Wings' fan forum right?

You have every right to complain about it... it's just been done ad naseum. I feel like I need to do some research on known "floaters" "streaky" around the league and get back to you on their cap hit vs. laziness levels/streakiness to give you something to *really* think about...

 

Franzen vs Just some names off the top of my head in the meantime

 

Franzen (3.955 million dollar cap hit -- let's go crazy and call it 4 miilion) 6 goals 13 assists in 25 games -- signed thru 19-20 

 

Alexander Semin (7 million dollar cap hit) 1 goal. 5 assists in 21 games -- signed thru 17-18

Bobby Ryan (7.25 million dollar cap hit) 7 goals 12 assists in 28 games -- signed thru 21-22

Joffrey Lupul (5.25 million dollar cap hit) 7goals 5 assists  in 20 games  -- signed thru 17-18

 

...and yes.  Me, #9, and the Mule hang out all the time when the Wings play in NYC.  ...and he totally laughs when we call him out for his laziness. He still pays for drinks too.


In Topic: 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

20 December 2014 - 11:54 AM

Yes. We lose a lot of games because he is useless without the puck and pretty useless even with it this year. I know you love him and his cap hit to death and everything but at some point you have to admit he stinks right now and as nice as 08 and 09 were he shouldn't be here throwing an anchor down on every line he is on especially with the energy we have from the young guys. 

So we should have scratched Franzen in favor of everybody's other favorite... Danny Cleary.

 

Totally would have won the game with Clears in.  He's got no knees... BUT HE'S GOT HEART!! SOMETHING FRANZEN NEVER HAD!!

 

:bye:


In Topic: 12/19 GDT : Islanders 2 at Red Wings 1

20 December 2014 - 11:02 AM

First round for Quincey
Resign Quincey
Resign cleary
Sign tootoo for three years and not play put him on roster
Sign colo for 2 years
Bringing back Sammy again
Trading top 2 or 3 prospect for rental center
Franzen deal...

Clearly no bad contracts at all.

Give me a break.

 

All of this seems like extreme belly-aching.

 

Most of these issues are slight hiccups.  Not crippling long term or short term.

 

Is Quincey worth a first... probably not. ...but would Holland have drafted a first round pick anyway... probably not.

He would have traded it for two 2nd rounders and then traded one of those second round picks for two more third rounders.

 

Get over Cleary. He's on the roster until he's ready to be done. Just like Maltby. Just like Draper. Suck it up. He's not even playing.

 

Tootoo wasn't played by Babcock... not Holland. Point the blame in the right direction, sir.

Then he, along with Colo were bought out.  Would have been Sammy if he wasn't injured...

...and please, let's not pretend like other GMs don't resign guys that they're familiar with.

 

And I'm sorry, but Franzen is worth his cap hit. Am I enamored with his play all of the time?  No. I'm sure Holland isn't either but

Holland certainly didn't know that the latest CBA would include a cap recapture clause that would make that Franzen deal a little less digestable.

 

 

Exactly. I mean ya those 2 or 3 year deals for broken over the hill useless players was def not crippling it int forced nyquist and Tatar to remain in the minors for a year or two longer than they should've.

or how about the fact he offered those long term crap contracts to suter and parise. Suter would've made them better but those are the contracts that hurt you down the road.


How about kindl? He could easily be waved or dumped for nothing to allow ouellette to be on this team but holland refuses to...why?

 

So. Now he's in the wrong for trying to get Suter and Parise?  He just can't win. Worst GM ever.

 

Kindl isn't waived because Ken Holland understands the need for depth... and he's not just going to give away a guy that's signed for a few years at a reasonable price.

 

So you would say he made short term crippling decisions but not long term? That sounds about right to me...except for potentially franzens, z or kronwalls if they decide to retire early.

:g:

 

Except... except... except... Yes. All those "what if's" we should be considering.

 

Regarding last night's game:  What is up with Mrazek getting so far out of net on multiple plays? Does he always do that? Does anyone else have a heart-attack whenever he does? Should I not worry so much?