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#2628450 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by e_prime on Yesterday, 02:41 PM

Kindl to IR -- So there's your 23-man opening day roster:  15 Forwards, 6 Defensemen, and our Goalie Tandem.




22  Andy Miele  C  L  5-7  169  Grosse Pointe Woods, Michigan  4/15/88  Signed, 7/2/14
23  Brian Lashoff  D  L  6-3  221  Albany, New York  7/16/90  Signed, 10/1/08
57  Mitch Callahan  RW  R  6-0  196  Whittier, California  8/17/91  2009 Draft (6/180)


4  Jakub Kindl  D  L  6-3  199  Sumperk, Czech Republic  2/10/87  2005 Draft (1/19)


8  Justin Abdelkader  LW  L  6-2  218  Muskegon, Michigan  2/25/87  2005 Draft (2/42)
11  Daniel Cleary  RW  L  6-1  205  Carbonear, Newfoundland  12/18/78  Signed, 10/4/05
14  Gustav Nyquist  RW  L  5-11  183  Halmstad, Sweden  9/1/89  2008 Draft (4/121)
15  Riley Sheahan  C  L  6-3  222  St. Catharines, Ontario  12/7/91  2010 Draft (1/21)
17  Brad Richards  C  L  6-0  199  Murray Harbour, P.E.I.  5/2/80  Signed, 7/1/15
18  Joakim Andersson  C  L  6-2  211  Munkedal, Sweden  2/5/89  2007 Draft (3/88)
20  Drew Miller  LW  L  6-2  180  Dover, New Jersey  2/17/84  Waivers, 11/11/09
21  Tomas Tatar  LW  L  5-10  185  Ilava, Slovakia  12/1/90  2009 Draft (2/60)
26  Tomas Jurco  RW  L  6-1  203  Kosice, Slovakia  12/28/92  2011 Draft (2/35)
29  Landon Ferraro  C  L  6-0  186  Trail, British Columbia  8/8/91  2009 Draft (2/32)
40  Henrik Zetterberg  C  L  6-0  195  Njurunda, Sweden  10/9/80  1999 Draft (7/210)
41  Luke Glendening  C  R  5-11  194  Grand Rapids, Michigan  4/28/89  Signed, 7/5/13
56  Teemu Pulkkinen  RW  R  5-11  183  Vantaa, Finland  1/2/92  2010 Draft (4/111)
71  Dylan Larkin  C  L  6-1  190  Waterford, Michigan  7/30/96  2014 Draft (1/15)
93  Johan Franzen  RW  L  6-4  232  Vetlanda, Sweden  12/23/79  2004 Draft (3/97)

2  Brendan Smith  D  L  6-2  211  Mimico, Ontario  2/8/89  2007 Draft (1/27)
25  Mike Green  D  R  6-1  207  Calgary, Alberta  10/12/85  Signed, 7/1/15
27  Kyle Quincey  D  L  6-2  216  Kitchener, Ontario  8/12/85  Trade, 2/21/12
52  Jonathan Ericsson  D  L  6-4  220  Karlskrona, Sweden  3/2/84  2002 Draft (9/291)
55  Niklas Kronwall  D  L  6-0  194  Stockholm, Sweden  1/12/81  2000 Draft (1/29)
61  Xavier Ouellet  D  L  6-1  200  Bayonne, France  7/29/93  2011 Draft (2/48)

34  Petr Mrazek  G  L  6-2  183  Ostrava, Czech Republic  2/14/92  2010 Draft (5/141)
35  Jimmy Howard  G  L  6-1  218  Syracuse, New York  3/26/84  2003 Draft (2/64)

#  Injured Reserve (5)

4  Jakub Kindl D  L  6-3  199  Sumperk, Czech Republic  2/10/87  2005 Draft (1/19)
13  Pavel Datsyuk  C  L  5-11  194  Sverdlovsk, Russia 7/20/78  1998 Draft (6/171)

43  Darren Helm  C  L  6-0  196  St. Andrews, Manitoba 1/21/87  2005 Draft (5/132)
47  Alexey Marchenko  D  R  6-3  210  Moscow, Russia 1/2/92  2011 Draft (7/205)
65  Danny DeKeyser  D  L  6-3  191  Detroit, Michigan 3/7/90  Signed, 3/29/15

#2628428 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by e_prime on Yesterday, 01:12 PM

Because the better players need to play. They will get minutes down in Grand Rapids that they wouldn't get in Detroit. Cleary is NOT taking a spot from any of the kids.

For Cleary, the Pressbox is probably worse than getting sent down. 


Say what you will about his play... I mean, what else is left to say... but the guy wants to play.

#2628384 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by e_prime on Yesterday, 11:02 AM

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 56s57 seconds ago

Callahan, Miele and Lashoff have all cleared waivers.

#2628370 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by e_prime on Yesterday, 10:39 AM

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 47m47 minutes ago

Larkin made the roster Blashill said


Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 42m42 minutes ago

Blashill said Larkin will start on line with Zetterberg and Abdelkader in all likelihood.


Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 6m6 minutes ago

Whoever starts in goal Fri. vs. Toronto (I'm guessing it will be Howard), the other guy will start the next night in Carolina, Blashill said

So either your wrong about Jensen, or the Red Wings are making dumb moves. The Red Wings don't make a lot of dumb moves..

I think the ceiling is much higher for Ouellet

...or they want to get him more NHL games to showcase him for a trade.

#2628284 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by e_prime on 04 October 2015 - 06:27 PM

@Krsmith -- I know Cleary hasn't been that terrible, but I think we're at a point where this team is going to have to make really tough decisions about the roster and specifically at forward. Cleary v Andersson really shouldn't be that difficult of a decision.

Andersson is ten years younger than Cleary and $135,000 cheaper.  As the 14th forward and barring serious team injury issues, a healthy scratch. I don't need to be wowed, impressed, or even think that one is better than the other.  I need servicable.  Andersson is that.


Keeping Larkin up makes sense because he's waiver exempt, can slot into the top nine, and can easily be sent down when Helm or Datsyuk come back.  You've already got Miller, Glendening, and Ferraro that can handle fourth line duties.  When both Helm and Datsyuk are healthy, whomever was kept (Andersson or Cleary) is likely to be exposed to waivers anyway.  


...and then we're back to a fully healthy roster situation.  Who sits?

#2627778 Completely Healthy Roster?

Posted by e_prime on 30 September 2015 - 05:42 PM

Yes, I'm getting that feeling.  I hope you're right.  However, this possibility is real.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough before...  No. 

#2627767 Completely Healthy Roster?

Posted by e_prime on 30 September 2015 - 03:53 PM

I hate this feeling, but I have a strange feeling Cleary will be in our lineup every 2-3 odd games. I hope i'm very wrong (as in he's waived/sent to GR).

You think that every two to three odd games Cleary will be up with the Wings?  Let me reassure you, there is not a chance in hell that this happens. 

#2627687 Completely Healthy Roster?

Posted by e_prime on 29 September 2015 - 12:52 PM

It will be interesting to see what happens if both Jurco and Pulkkinen play well. There's not really room for both when we're healthy, but they've both looked pretty good so far. If that did happen I'd be inclined to take Miller out of the lineup, but we'd have to to juggle up the combos to get a decent looking 4th line. 


Still think it would be crazy to trade Helm. Miller would be my sacrifice upfront or even Richards if Sheahan looks able to hold down the 2C spot. Those 2 are more likely to be gone than Helm in the next few years.

If we don't have injuries, I think we may end up seeing a rotation of Jurco, Pulkkinen, Franzen, Miller, and Helm as our healthy scratches depending on who's playing the best and what our needs are...   Also, lets say if Z or Dats need a maintenance day... Jeez. Would you look at that roster depth?!

#2627681 Completely Healthy Roster?

Posted by e_prime on 29 September 2015 - 12:15 PM

Does anyone else want/think Callahan will make the roster. We have a lot of young guys that simply cant play a fourth line role if they're going to be in the NHL. Callahan can play on any line, and has put up great numbers, even last year before he got injured, but is also a great fourth line player ad can play that role. I just cant see him clearing waivers. 

Not in the NHL.  At least not yet.

Sure, at some point he might be at the same level to take on a role like Abdelkader has

...but at this point, he's a 4th liner.


We *do* have a lot of young guys that simply can't or shouldn't play a fourth line role in the NHL -- Jurco, Pulkkinen, Larkin, Mantha, etc.  ...but we have at least four guys on the roster right now that can play that role (Miller, Glendening, Helm, and Abdelkader) and two others that are essentially in line ahead of him (Andersson and Ferraro) 


So, for now, Cally stays in the A.

#2627665 Completely Healthy Roster?

Posted by e_prime on 29 September 2015 - 09:40 AM

I am curious to know what you guys think our guys will look like completely healthly? barring we can actually stay 100 percent what do you thin k our lines will be? who do you see on the outside


anyone agree?

Nope.  Doesn't work under the cap.  If we've got a "completely healthy roster" we're not cap compliant.


Pavel Datsyuk 7,500,000

Henrik Zetterberg 6,083,333

Justin Abdelkader 1,800,000    

Gustav Nyquist 4,750,000

Brad Richards 3,000,000

Johan Franzen 3,954,545    

Tomas Tatar 2,750,000

Riley Sheahan 950,000

Tomas Jurco 900,000    

Drew Miller 1,350,000

Luke Glendening 628,333

Darren Helm 2,125,000    

Jokim Andersson 815,000

Teemu Pulkkinen 735,000    


Forwards Total 37,341,211    


Niklas Kronwall 4,750,000

Jonathan Ericsson 4,250,000    

Mike Green 6,000,000

Danny DeKeyser 4,250,000    

Kyle Quincey 4,250,000

Brendan Smith 2,750,000    

Jakob Kindl 2,400,000    


Defense Total 28,650,000    


Jimmy Howard 5,291,666

Petr Mrazek 737,500    


Goaltender Total 6,029,166    


Team Cap Total 72,020,377

Cap 71,400,000


Over/Under 620,385


Don't get me wrong, it's a fine roster.  If this is our situation come November -- Helm is back, Datsyuk is back...

I'm probably waiving Andersson and rolling with 13 forwards.

#2627580 Chicago re-signs Seabrook; 8 years, $6.875 AAV

Posted by e_prime on 28 September 2015 - 10:20 AM

I don't think it's a horrible signing, but it certainly continues in the (now) long-standing tradition of "questionable" cap management in Chicago.

I say "questionable" only because while they're pressing their luck in a lot of ways, up to this point it really hasn't bitten them in the ass as much as people thought it would.  


As far as who the next to the block to fix any cap woes:

Bickell is an obvious choice, as he was rumored to be a movable piece this off-season. 

You could always move Hossa.  He's aging, but it's not as if he's in decline and he could net you some really good pieces.

Maybe Shaw goes the way of Saad, in that move that most people don't think is going to happen but surprisingly does.

#2627415 9/24 Exhibition GDT : at Red Wings 6, Pittsburgh Penguins 1

Posted by e_prime on 25 September 2015 - 05:32 PM


Pulkkinen is artillery, we need more field officers.

If we're going with this analogy... Our waiver eligible kids are barely junior officers, not field generals or something...

and cannons are... well... explody!  We need explody!!

#2627409 9/24 Exhibition GDT : at Red Wings 6, Pittsburgh Penguins 1

Posted by e_prime on 25 September 2015 - 04:02 PM



This guy thinks we are a contender. And he's saying EXACTLY the same thing Kip is saying. top 4 D man needed. 


Kevin Allen knows his s***, but KipWinger is my go to guy.

#2627356 9/24 Exhibition GDT : at Red Wings 6, Pittsburgh Penguins 1

Posted by e_prime on 25 September 2015 - 09:43 AM

Eh? Why would both get waived?

Detroit only needs to waive one of them, unless you think Cleary or Callahan will be the 14th forward? Unless you're thinking they'll run 13 forwards to get under the cap once Pavel returns?


Oh jeezus.  Math.  14+7+2 = 23.  Lol.   

I'm a maroon!


EDIT:  Although I guess getting under the cap is going to be a concern, huh?  According to General Fanager with 15 forwards we're over the cap:

+1,314,543 - 950,000 (Cleary) = +364,543


There's a 215K difference between Andersson and Ferraro. Still putting us at just under 150k over carrying Ferraro instead of Andy. 

There's gotta be a trade and I see it on the defensive side.  There's huge difference in our salary cap situation between carrying our current 7 d-men (Green, Kronner, Quincey, Ericsson, Smith, Kindl, Deke) and six of those guys plus ANY of our d-prospects sitting in Grand Rapids.

#2627351 9/24 Exhibition GDT : at Red Wings 6, Pittsburgh Penguins 1

Posted by e_prime on 25 September 2015 - 09:16 AM


That lineup is deep, the thing that scares me is what happens when Datsyuk comes back. I just hope Jurco or Pulks aren't on the 4th line but I don't see how they aren't. Kind of disappointing with all the depth.

Can't be disappointed with this depth.  When injuries start happening we'll be happy to have it. 


Andersson and Ferraro are ultimately getting waived.  No big loss if either are claimed.

Helm can be an asset moving up and down the roster in any spot.  Would rather see him on the fourth line with Glenny and Miller.

If Jurco and Pulks are pulling their weight, and unless Franzen is tearing it up, I don't see why it wouldn't be Franzen sitting in the press-box. 

Wouldn't be bad to have him rotate in and out as necessary... give him and his noggin a rest every so often.