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#2620099 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by e_prime on 11 July 2015 - 01:06 PM

I thought That was the joke, that People Are just continuously taking seriously.
Its kip.
He's just being sarcastic saying all our prospects suck. The same way everyone rips on the scapegoats in Detroit...
You pick out What you think his biggest flaw is and extrapolate it into something so ridiculously skewed that every time something bad happens its their fault.

We love Our prospects unconditionally, then they become nhl regulars and we all turn on them, beg For them to be traded or waived, and then turn on Holland for not Trading them away for 6th&7th round picks. And the narrative after he keeps them instead of moving them for stale peanuts Is that Ken Holland is horrible at managing our assets.

I could be wrong, but what seems more plausible, kip being a smart ass:, or him genuinely thinking all our prospects are garbage.
it seems obvious when its laid out that way, right?

Sometimes I think people just don't read other people's posts... or they read too much into them... or don't consider who's written the post.

#2620081 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by e_prime on 11 July 2015 - 07:51 AM

I'm kind of worried we end up not using him right, or not playing him enough to get into the flow of the games.

Remember! Babcock no longer coaches here! ;)

#2620042 Sharp & Johns to DAL for Daley and Garbut

Posted by e_prime on 10 July 2015 - 08:15 PM

Craig Custance @CraigCustance 3m3 minutes ago

Blackhawks send forward Patrick Sharp and defenseman Stephen Johns to Dallas in return for Trevor Daley and forward Ryan Garbutt.

#2619988 Gustav Nyquist signed 4-Year Deal $4.75 mill AAV

Posted by e_prime on 10 July 2015 - 02:41 PM

Doesn't count if your 5'8 and when you hit someone your the one that falls :P

Where did you see that? Nhlnumbers says we got 1.2 million left , and I thought we had around 5 million before is signing so I can't see how we'd have 4 million left to sign jurco and pulks

NHLnumbers, GeneralFanager, and CapFriendly all have different cap totals and include different contracts in their totals. 


So, I used the contract numbers available (which are all correct) for the players that will probably be on the roster and a calculator. 


Also, you have to remember that we can be over the cap (forget the exact %) and just have to be compliant by the start of the season. 

I fully expect that we will be over until we trim the roster.  I'm just pointing out that currently, we would be cap compliant with Franzen on the roster with Jurco and Pulks signed and with Marchenko and XO in GR.  So, we don't have to fret too much about moving someone right away.

#2619962 Gustav Nyquist signed 4-Year Deal $4.75 mill AAV

Posted by e_prime on 10 July 2015 - 01:58 PM

So this deal will take him into his 30s. If it is under $5M I will be surprised.

4.75 -- not too shabby.

#2619786 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by e_prime on 09 July 2015 - 10:36 AM

Brad Richards @BRichards_1991 50s51 seconds ago

Very Happy and honored to be wearing #17 for Wings after two other P.E. Islanders wore it. Forbe Kennedy and Gerard Gallant.

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#2619782 Jared Coreau signed to a one-year contract

Posted by e_prime on 09 July 2015 - 10:19 AM

Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 42s43 seconds ago

@DetroitRedWings have signed goaltender Jared Coreau to a one-year contract. He went 16-8-1 with @griffinshockey 2.20 GAA and .927 save pct.

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#2619754 Wings‬ sign left wing Eric Tangradi

Posted by e_prime on 09 July 2015 - 07:35 AM

Who's to say that he doesn't make the fourth line or at least get a call up here and there? Even if he only gets 2 call ups I hope it's against Dallas and Ottawa .

Are people really pissed off about a depth signing probably around league minimum? Just be happy the Wings finally Griffins have a winger who has great size and will win some battles along the boards.

You know who's to say if me makes or doesn't make the fourth line?  The coaching staff.

You know who else has a say in it:  Eric Tangradi.  If he plays like a house on fire and beats out someone like Ferraro, so be it.


I have no problem with him as a depth forward.  It's a smart signing.

Do I think he's going to get specific call ups play play specific "hard-edged, tougher" teams? No way in hell. 


We have a few on here that think any sort of toughness or someone who will drop the gloves is worthless. Just ignore them. I still like watching big hits and fights. And I'm sure some others do as well. Not everyone wants pansy hockey.

I love big hits and fights, but I also want skill.  A marriage of both would be phenomenal, but it's hard in this day and age when the league is shifting more and more towards skill.  Big hits and fights are great, but just because we don't have someone that will drop the gloves doesn't make it pansy hockey.  It's just the game now.


Can't belive there are 3 pages about a guy that will play on the 4th line of the Griffins

You obviously haven't been around very long.  :lol:

I'm surprised Brian McGrattan hasn't been brought into the conversation yet.

#2619365 Free agents this off season

Posted by e_prime on 07 July 2015 - 10:02 AM

We need to weed out some of the guys who will never produce and trade them for another solid piece (Shattenkirk etc...).

So... Garbage Out/Talent In.

Yeah... No.  Not gonna happen. 

St. Louis, for example, isn't going to take our middling/marginal/third pairing/bottom 6 talent and give us Shattenkirk. 

It just doesn't work that way.

#2619224 Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Posted by e_prime on 06 July 2015 - 01:11 PM

Some of you live in the most bipolar nightmarish dreamscapes imaginable. 


Imagine a world where Nyquist actually gets to arbitration, we walk away and sign Chris Stewart...  then the nightmare passes and then you turn your head to the other side of the pillow and we're in the fluffy candy cloud-filled world where we can trade Smith, Kindl, and Quincey for picks and land Franson.  


Never wake me up.

#2619211 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by e_prime on 06 July 2015 - 11:44 AM

I would personally like to thank crap teams who need to grossly overpay sub-elite talent in order to keep them there. Now every player of that calibre can use them as an example at to become grossly overpaid arbitration. Thanks buffalo, Columbus, Ryan O'Reilly, and Brandon saad!

...but as pointed out by many on the board already, Detroit typically gets a deal done with players that choose arbitration before it ever gets to an arbitration hearing.  So who cares about those teams that can't get things done without overpaying and greedy money grubbing players.


Nyquist going the route of player elected arbitration does two things:

1. Shows that he wants to stay a Wing and is willing to negotiate in good faith that a fair deal will get done.

2. Keeps other teams from offer-sheeting him.

#2619188 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by e_prime on 06 July 2015 - 09:10 AM

MLive's Ansar Khan ponders whether Jeff Blashill might finally choose to utilize Brendan Smith on the Red Wings' power play, unlike his predecessor:

"I think Brendan has that ability to do that (power play)," Blashill said. "You have to see where the whole puzzle fits at camp. He's somebody I know that's done that in the past because he's done that for me in the American League (for half the 2012-13 season)."

Blashill has a vision of how Smith can be best utilized.

"I think Brendan's best offensive ability is kind of roaming around below the tops of the circles," Blashill said. "If he's a weak-side guy on the power play, going to the net a lot, he can retrieve pucks because he's quick, he's strong, he's competitive. He's got good offensive instincts once he gets below the tops of circles. I know at Wisconsin he was on his off-side (right side) hitting one-timers. That's something we'll explore going into camp."

#2619146 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by e_prime on 05 July 2015 - 08:20 PM

Well, you have to look at this way Frank. 


It isn't a similar situation.  AT ALL!


Goose files because he wants to stay, doesn't want to be offer sheeted because he's going to negotiate with the Wings in good faith...  and would you look at that the Wings want him to stay, don't intent to screw him over dollar-wise.

Saad and Chicago were not close on making a deal so they traded him. 

While this was unexpected, you knew something was going to give and Chicago.  So it did.


So, Columbus while not giving up a kings ransom for Saad...  HEY!  They'd sure like to keep him and not lose him to an offer sheet... so they went probably higher than needed with both dollar and term and Saad accepted. 

So while they might be comparable in stats for this year... and because I'm nice I'll point out that they had similar years last year as well, but I'm still going to maintain based on my thoughts above and below that... It's not really the same thing at all.  ...and as you have so kindly pointed out TWICE...  Saad is younger (therefore broke into the NHL at an earlier age than Nyquist/etc) and has ALREADY helped a team win two cups...  Goose is OLDER and helped no team win ZERO cups.  . No cups, No CA$H.*


*(Not always true, but there's always some moron GM trying to save his job that'll throw a horrible contract at SOMEONE!)


There's no reason to think Goose is going to demand outlandish term or dollars on this contract to stay on a team that brought him into the league, that he wants to play for, and to play for a coach that loves the s*** out of him.

#2618287 Wings sign Brad Richards 1 yr, $3 million

Posted by e_prime on 01 July 2015 - 03:43 PM

Brad Richards NEED MOAR CUP!!

#2617988 Free agents this off season

Posted by e_prime on 01 July 2015 - 12:51 PM

I'd rather have franson than Green but neither is top pairing calibre.

Wonder where Phaneuf will land

Phaneuf will probably stay put now.