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#2570956 Franson to Preds

Posted by e_prime on 15 February 2015 - 01:57 PM

Hmmm... Would I want to play for a team that's playoff bound for years to come... Or a team that's in "scorched Earth" mode?

#2570909 Do Maple Leaf fans deserve better?

Posted by e_prime on 15 February 2015 - 12:07 PM

Preds got franson and santorelli for a 1st rd pick

Leipsic is a 20 year old prospect.  Leading scoring in the WHL last year... Nothing to scoff at.


How we got to a first rounder and Santorelli in the mix...

I'm guessing it went down something like this:


Poille: "I've got a second round pick and Leipsic for Franson"


Nonis: "Well... we really want a first."


Poille: "I'm not giving you a first for a rental. What else can you do?"


Nonis: "Well, I'm not..."

Shanny:  "Ok, David... How about Franson and Santorelli for the first and Leipsic?"

Nonis: "But Bren..."

Shanny: "Look Dave. Neither Cody nor Mike are gonna re-sign here, let's get that first round pick we need."

Nonis: ...


Poille: "Great. I can give you an expiring contract back if it'd make you feel better about this deal."

Nonis: "That sounds fair."

Poille: "Olli Jokinen"

Shanny:  "...whatever..."

#2570398 What should we do with the Monster?

Posted by e_prime on 13 February 2015 - 02:16 PM

Apparently they're unsure what to do with our goalie situation so the wings will carry three goalies for now....




PHT: http://prohockeytalk...-backup-goalie/

Is Danny Cleary still on the roster?  Can't we waive him already so we can carry these three goalies, plus 8 defensemen... please?  LOL.

#2570378 2/11 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Penguins 4

Posted by e_prime on 13 February 2015 - 10:25 AM

Laughable.  Seriously.  Does Toronto think they've got any leverage in this situation?

Toronto wants to deal him.  Get something for a guy that isn't going to re-sign with them.

Teams know that Toronto wants to deal him because they can't really afford to sign the guy to the contract he wants.


So, why anyone would give the Leafs what they want? 

A 1st round pick {PLUS} for a guy who in all likelihood could end up just being a rental?

A week ago, word on the street was a second rounder could get you Franson.  Now it's a 1st++. 

Talk about lessons in negotiations.  You start high and go from there... not the other way around.

#2570322 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by e_prime on 12 February 2015 - 03:54 PM

I don't want to bring in a d unless it's a clear upgrade. Petry isn't. I'd rather go with what we have and let a rookie play.

I look at it this way.  While Petry isn't necessarily an upgrade over Kindl, he's a RH defenseman that is at least on par with Kindl.

As Petry's not signed for next year, if he isn't what we're looking for... it's pretty easy to just say, "Thanks for the playoff support, see ya around."

So trade Kindl to EDM in order to free up a roster spot for next year.


Kronwall - Ericsson

Dekeyser - Quincey

Smith - 


Then, whether it be an outside more "splashy" FA signing, re-upping with Petry, or promoting a rookie to the active roster full-time, we've at least received something for a guy that's pretty much on the outside looking in...


Rookies are playing:  Marchenko is doing well.  Oulette is doing well.  Both can be sent down without passing through waivers and will be up with the club for the playoffs as Black Aces, but in the meantime, WHY NOT trade out a d-man that might otherwise be waived and claimed for nothing, for some RH depth if Edmonton is willing to bite.


Also, it doesn't mean you still can't get that upgrade on D by trading Smith ...or Quincey ...or Ericsson?

#2570283 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by e_prime on 12 February 2015 - 12:57 PM

Aaaaaaaand Bob McKenzie denies the rumor after three consecutive idiots (Bryan Yates, Clark Rasmussen, and George Malik) ran with the rumor as if it were true.  Malik even going as far as to vouch for the credibility of Yakes, who originated the rumor. 


Cautionary Lesson LGW:  Next time you find yourself about to post "Holland didn't land player X because the reported asking price was...," remember, those "reported asking prices" are almost always wrong, inflated, and made up by amateur jackasses (bloggers/podcasters). 

I'd like to see the denial... otherwise, I'm going to go with the word of the three idiots.  :lol:

#2570262 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by e_prime on 12 February 2015 - 12:00 PM

Holland has been griping about the prices of players in trades for years now... and has made exactly ZERO trades that have involved an active roster player or high impact prospect since when?  ...and yet we're to believe that he was willing to part with Larkin AND Mantha for Tyler Myers?

...or Tatar AND Nyquist for Jay Bouwmeester? ...or considering these outlandish trades.  HA.


Holland detractors need to try harder.

#2569836 So, Evander Kane...

Posted by e_prime on 11 February 2015 - 01:43 PM

So, th' Peg rids themselves of two problem children:  Kane and Bogo (who I believe has been a healthy scratch recently/in Maurice's doghouse)


...get Myers (who, I'm sorry, as far as consistency goes is no worse than Bogo and probably has a higher ceiling) plus Stafford plus a first round pick and a couple pieces.


Seems like Winnipeg won this trade.

#2569375 Babcock: "HE WINS, FULL STOP" - THN

Posted by e_prime on 08 February 2015 - 09:53 AM

I'll just say this about coaching the best player in the league:


There's a difference between being the best player and being touted at the best player in the league.


...and when I say touted, I mean being told, over and over, crammed down our throats, despite any shortcomings he may have, marketed until we're got BEST IN THE GAME drilled into our heads...


I'm certain that while Babcock would love to coach the current "best player in the league," there's a number of factors that surround that player that would give him pause in making the move to that organization, not to mention how good he has it in Detroit.


EDIT:  For the record, I think he's an amazing player, but he's still a crybaby and ******* to the zebras about non-calls and such way too much for my taste.  I think it's his face. I want to punch it. Repeatedly. Everytime I see him complaining to the officials or when they pan to him complaining from the bench. FIST to FACE.

#2568648 2/5 GDT - Red Wings 3 at Avalanche 0

Posted by e_prime on 05 February 2015 - 09:13 PM

A fight?!  WTF.  frankgrimes just became a Red Wings fan again.


Man, some serious hitting going on thusfar.

#2568624 2/5 GDT - Red Wings 3 at Avalanche 0

Posted by e_prime on 05 February 2015 - 08:47 PM

Roenick is embarrassingly horrible.  Tatar's nickname is 'Tuna'... because he likes Tuna Tartare.  :nono:

#2568440 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by e_prime on 05 February 2015 - 08:06 AM

Except it's really shanahan running everything now so your post doesn't apply

Actually it applies quite a lot. 

Those contracts aren't just null and void because Savior Shanny has come to TOwn.


...and they're not REFUSING to give Franson a huge contract.


Nonis/Shanny/whomever tried offering Franson a multi-year contract for just under $5 million (aprox. what Jake Gardnier is getting)

...because that's what they can afford to offer him. 

With the Phaneuf, Clarkson, and Kessel contracts they're stuck.  Very little cap flexibility. Hence all the rumors of moving Kessel or Dion.

So it's pretty obvious why they're incapable of offering him more.

Especially if Shanny is trying to fix some of Nonis and Co.'s mistakes.

#2568413 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by e_prime on 04 February 2015 - 10:35 PM


Why not wait for a real number one to become available? Because a real number one will never be made available in free agency, nor will they be available via trade, unless you're going to ridiculously overpay.


You mean current deadline defensemen options -- rental or otherwise in Sekera, Petry, Zidlicky, Green, Myers, and Yandle aren't number ones either?    (They're not.)


...and neither is Staal, Boychuk, Martin, Ehrhoff, Methot, Oduya, Michalek, Beauchemin, Mezaros?  (NOPE. None of these guys either!)


All sarcasm aside, I'm with you on this man! We don't need a number one!  We need a solid RH, puck moving 2/3/4 guy that will compliment what we already have on the team.  Franson would be ideal if the price is right! 


Certainly, it's everyone's right to have an opinion otherwise, but I'm unsure why you'd really be against it.


Do you find it even remotely ironic that the guy who supposed wants to "pretend the horrible Choice never happened" is also the same guy who won't shut up about it?

Not surprising.

#2568358 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by e_prime on 04 February 2015 - 06:23 PM

You expect us to believe you watched a ton of Nashville games? Your from canada as am I so I assume you've watched leafs games occasionally on Saturday night hockey and on sportsnet etc... During the week , although like myself I highly doubt you watched every single leafs game

Woah, whoa, whoa slowdown there man... who are you to call someone out on their viewing habits?  Maybe if you paid attention you'd see that krsmith17 has readily admitted that he watches a TON of Leafs games because his GF is a Toronto fan.  Now, in my book, that's a tough thing to admit... so the fact that he has should be worth it's weight in gold (or at least bitcoin) for internet credibility.  On top of that, you don't have to watch EVERYSINGLELEAFSGAME to get a good sampling of what Franson is and is not.  He didn't say he's watched "every individual play"  he said, "followed his individual play closely"  which means, he's scouted the guy.  He's on good basis with his abilities, his positives, his shortcomings, etc.    Reading fully, and maybe more than once helps with formulating clarity in your posts, responses, etc.

#2568260 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by e_prime on 04 February 2015 - 11:56 AM

Why do we need a puck mover when we already have Kronwall and Brendan Smith???




Because one offensive defenseman isn't enough?



You really consider Kronwall a stay at home guy? Never thought of him that way myself




Well I read recently, on one of these threads, that his offense is in decline.  We should trade for Tyler Myers to fill in the gaps. 


You two... I see what you're doing here!!  :lol: :lol: :lol: