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#2527212 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by e_prime on 30 June 2014 - 12:59 PM

I'm a guy that mentioned Niskanen months ago but honestly the more I think about a 7 year deal the more I think it could backfire. What if he just a good year and doesn't end up being what we thought and we're stuck with this guy and a big contract. If the Wings sign him I hope it's not over 5 mil per. 5 year/25 million would be a great contract but that's not going to cut it.

With EVERY CONTRACT, there are always risks. ...and yes while 5/25 would be much easier to swallow, as you said:  "that's not going to cut it."


So either Kenny steps up, makes his best offer... or he doesn't.


EDIT: I'm glad that there are more options than just Niskanen. So if KH does step up and make an offer and someone beats us out for his services it won't be the end of the world.

(see: not landing Suter)

#2527178 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by e_prime on 30 June 2014 - 11:58 AM

Bruins are in cap trouble. Next year they have UFA that would take around 20 mil to resign. They should trade Smith and Boychuk to Detroit foe Kindl and Andersson now.

I know this is tongue in cheek... but the Smith Bros. on the team together would be awesome.  ...and Boychuk. 

Yes, please.

#2527160 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by e_prime on 30 June 2014 - 10:49 AM

Per Ansar: Wings made qualifying offers to Danny DeKeyser, Tomas Tatar, Riley Sheahan, Adam Almquist, Landon Ferraro, Mitch Callahan and A. Nestrasil.


To piggy-back


Ansar Khan @AnsarKhanMLive 1m

Wings did not qualify Cory Emmerton, Gleason Fournier, Max Nicastro, Trevor Parkes and Willie Coetzee, relinquishing their rights.




#2527155 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by e_prime on 30 June 2014 - 10:40 AM

So they wanted cap space and yet they retained a 1.15 million cap for Gagner. Why was that a good move? I think he could have at least gotten someone to take gagner's full salary.

Tampa retained salary (real monies) not cap (cba monies)  Also, limited time... Gagner has a NTC that kicks in on July 1.

#2527147 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by e_prime on 30 June 2014 - 10:13 AM


Ah didn't know that, guess I should start looking more at capgeek - sorry for the advertisement - again. I think the Bruins are really screwed salarywise, they have 1,7 million to sign for 4 key players. How are they going to bring back Iggy now?


They're not, Frank.   Which means he's ripe for the picking!!  *drools*


ps: CapGeek is THE BEST!!  I waste so much time on that site.

#2527137 Wings to have face to face with Matt Niskanen

Posted by e_prime on 30 June 2014 - 09:53 AM

Still can't believe that Pittsburgh is letting one of their best defenders walk without even offering him a contract *lol*

They don't have a choice.  They're so screwed cap-wise.


Edit:  The only way the Pens could even entertain the thought of making Niskanen an offer is if they first traded one Kris(topher) Letang. 

#2525997 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by e_prime on 26 June 2014 - 10:07 PM

It seems to me that all the talk of Brian Cambell wanting to be traded disappeared. Was that not true or is his contract unmoveable? 

He didn't say he wanted out nor did he ask to be traded... he told Tallon that he'd be willing to waive his no movement (or no trade... whichever it is.) if anyone asked and he felt it was a good fit.

#2525316 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by e_prime on 23 June 2014 - 04:47 PM

Hope he comes back for less money and he isn't the only acquisition the Wings make this off-season.

#2525304 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by e_prime on 23 June 2014 - 03:39 PM

Sounds like Tatar will be traded to me


The translation is really rough so, I'm not sure where it sounds like that... but Tatar is an RFA. 

So sign and trade?  Is Ken Holland capable of that?

He is a tradeable asset and should fetch quality in return, especially if he's packaged with other pieces.

#2525254 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 23 June 2014 - 11:51 AM


O'Reilly is 200 lbs. and just as fast as Nyquist.  If nothing else this makes him harder to play against.  But it also means he'll fare better defensively against top players.  Additionally, he's also super competitive and has a better track record of success at the NHL level.  Of the two, I'd put far more stock in O'Reilly being "the next Zetterberg" than I would Nyquist. 


But the point was not to say we should trade Nyquist for O'Reilly.  That's not going to happen and I know it.  The point was to say that it's a shame KH likely wouldn't even consider it, even if it made all the sense in the world. 


Good Ol' JR!


Favorite post of the month...easily. 

O'Reilly? O'Rly?


Hows about Tatar plus prospects/picks for O'Reilly?


Also, thanks.  After the one you made the other day, I had to make a couple for future usage.

#2525248 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 23 June 2014 - 11:40 AM

In some ways it's hard to blame him.  He falls prey to the exact same thinking half this forum does.  The thinking seems to be, if a guys plays poorly nobody wants him, and if a guy plays well then why trade him?  I don't agree with it, but I get where it's coming from. 


Take Nyquist for instance.  Here's a guy who's already on most people's "never ever ever ever trade list".  And probably Holland's too.  Maybe, just maybe, you've got the next Phil Kessel on your hands with Gus.  But probably not.  Probably he'll get you 50-60 pts. a season and be small each and every last second.  But because of an (unsustainable) high shooting percentage, he's got unreal value right now.  So doesn't it make sense to move him for a player who will give you 50-60 pts. and not be 185-190 lbs. for the rest of his career?  Or use him as a center piece for someone better.  For example:  Don't you think Colorado would think long and hard about Nyquist (plus prospect) for O'Reilly considering they'd be getting a good player AND they'd be able to resign Stastny with the savings?  Probably.  But it won't happen because KH can't move beyond "Nyquist had a good season and Nyquist is home grown". 

Good Ole JR 1

You're talking about trading a 50-60 point a year guy plus prospect for a 50-60 point a year guy that's roughly the same size, and they both had high shooting percentages

Are you comparing O'Reilly and Nyquist?

#2525235 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 23 June 2014 - 10:58 AM


I mean, I don't disagree with your logic.  I just have a hard time imagining KH moving ANY roster player.  The combination of Ericsson being "home grown" and Holland being so loyal that he'd rather watch his team tank than move a guy who has value, makes me believe he'll never...EVER...trade a homegrown top pairing d-man. 

This is going to be his downfall.

#2525213 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 23 June 2014 - 09:57 AM


Yeah, I read that Mlive Q&A as well.


Basically, he speculates that Holland won't overpay either in UFA dollars or in tradable assets. So no Niskanens, no Boyles, no Keslers, or Yandle type guys.


Honestly, I'd be happy with Tom Gilbert. He'smobile, has a great first pass, can eat up a ton of minutes, and has that right shot.


One of the "secondary scorers" he mentioned was Jussi Jokinen. I will be absolutely furious if we sign that guy.

...but in the same breath he mentions Moulson and Stastny.  Those are names I could live with.




Possibilities include Dan Boyle, Anton Stralman, Derek Morris, Tom Gilbert and Stephane Robidas.

As far as defense goes... Those are fine.  Not what I really want, but Stralman has simplified his game and would be a solid piece.  Morris and Gilbert are decent puck-movers.  Can't complain too much.  If we're not going for broke I don't see why we'd want to take on Boyle (he wants cash and term) and Robidas is just aged and broken down. (38 and 48 games played in the last two years)

#2524785 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 20 June 2014 - 08:25 AM

Yzerman played the game with integrity. Thornton is a diving, embellishing scumbag.

Sather is likely to overpay for him, anyway, if the rumors are true that he is indeed interested.


So not only will they take on Thornton's cap-hit after dumping Richards' through a buy-out.  They'll probably have to send  Brassard (maybe not the caliber player of Big Joe, but he's, as they say, "on the right side of thirty.")  plus other pieces...because you know it's not going to be Brassard for Thornton straight up.  


...and ultimately they'll be right back in the position they are right now... almost $54 up against the cap with 7 forwards, 4 d-men, and 2 d-men signed. If they keep themselves in that position they will not be able to re-sign Stralman, Boyle, or Pouliot. Certainly not all three.


Sather is an idiot.  I swear to gawd! He needs to realize that they New Yawk Rangers made it to the Finals on the good fortunes of seeding, a Montreal team determined to beat Boston, just enough talent to beat a couple of dysfunctional teams from Pennsylvania team, and a player's personal loss turned into team motivation.


Thornton passing to Nash sounds great.  Doesn't it.  Until you realize there's no more depth after that. 

Sather needs to maybe take a breath and realize that he needs talent around Henrik if he's going to get the Rags back to the Cup Final.  Not just a star center in Joe Thornton. 


I would be very surprised to see the New York Ranger back in the Cup Final next year.


On topic:  Marleau would look pretty good in a Wings jersey.  Would take him over Thornton.

A big bodied winger that's still pretty fast, a two-way player, and that can score... bringing him East might give him a boost.

Well my position isn't to win a cup every year, had you read my position you would have seen it was to either be a contender or be making tangible steps towards becoming a contender again, 


I'm pretty sure I pointed that out.  Hence points my points A) and B) to mirror yours. 

...but you read it the way you want to, bro.

#2524740 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by e_prime on 19 June 2014 - 10:22 PM

I think it's a great to have them in one place and should be pinned.