Of course I'm disappointed when the Wings don't get the exact players I want. I'm convinced of my own good judgement in these matters lol. But I'm fully capable of settling for others, provided they're not 92 years old and clearly declining.
As for Malik...I loathe the guy. He's the absolute definition of a company man. I might put more stock in what he had to say if I hadn't spent the last 5 years reading him agree with every misstep Holland made, and then make excuses afterward as if Holland were a victim of fate and not a man who is clearly petrified by uncertainty.
Wasn't Malik's tweet... but a Malik follower. Malik is an apologist through and through. He's fan that wants to be a "reporter" but ultimately is a re-poster/re-tweeter. I go there for the facts and summaries, not for his opinion.
He finds no fault in Cleary. That's enough for me to know that he can't be trusted.
I'm a guy that mentioned Niskanen months ago but honestly the more I think about a 7 year deal the more I think it could backfire. What if he just a good year and doesn't end up being what we thought and we're stuck with this guy and a big contract. If the Wings sign him I hope it's not over 5 mil per. 5 year/25 million would be a great contract but that's not going to cut it.
With EVERY CONTRACT, there are always risks. ...and yes while 5/25 would be much easier to swallow, as you said: "that's not going to cut it."
So either Kenny steps up, makes his best offer... or he doesn't.
EDIT: I'm glad that there are more options than just Niskanen. So if KH does step up and make an offer and someone beats us out for his services it won't be the end of the world.
Ah didn't know that, guess I should start looking more at capgeek - sorry for the advertisement - again. I think the Bruins are really screwed salarywise, they have 1,7 million to sign for 4 key players. How are they going to bring back Iggy now?
They're not, Frank. Which means he's ripe for the picking!! *drools*
ps: CapGeek is THE BEST!! I waste so much time on that site.
O'Reilly is 200 lbs. and just as fast as Nyquist. If nothing else this makes him harder to play against. But it also means he'll fare better defensively against top players. Additionally, he's also super competitive and has a better track record of success at the NHL level. Of the two, I'd put far more stock in O'Reilly being "the next Zetterberg" than I would Nyquist.
But the point was not to say we should trade Nyquist for O'Reilly. That's not going to happen and I know it. The point was to say that it's a shame KH likely wouldn't even consider it, even if it made all the sense in the world.
Good Ol' JR!
Favorite post of the month...easily.
Hows about Tatar plus prospects/picks for O'Reilly?
Also, thanks. After the one you made the other day, I had to make a couple for future usage.
In some ways it's hard to blame him. He falls prey to the exact same thinking half this forum does. The thinking seems to be, if a guys plays poorly nobody wants him, and if a guy plays well then why trade him? I don't agree with it, but I get where it's coming from.
Take Nyquist for instance. Here's a guy who's already on most people's "never ever ever ever trade list". And probably Holland's too. Maybe, just maybe, you've got the next Phil Kessel on your hands with Gus. But probably not. Probably he'll get you 50-60 pts. a season and be small each and every last second. But because of an (unsustainable) high shooting percentage, he's got unreal value right now. So doesn't it make sense to move him for a player who will give you 50-60 pts. and not be 185-190 lbs. for the rest of his career? Or use him as a center piece for someone better. For example: Don't you think Colorado would think long and hard about Nyquist (plus prospect) for O'Reilly considering they'd be getting a good player AND they'd be able to resign Stastny with the savings? Probably. But it won't happen because KH can't move beyond "Nyquist had a good season and Nyquist is home grown".
You're talking about trading a 50-60 point a year guy plus prospect for a 50-60 point a year guy that's roughly the same size, and they both had high shooting percentages
I mean, I don't disagree with your logic. I just have a hard time imagining KH moving ANY roster player. The combination of Ericsson being "home grown" and Holland being so loyal that he'd rather watch his team tank than move a guy who has value, makes me believe he'll never...EVER...trade a homegrown top pairing d-man.