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#2621176 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by e_prime on 22 July 2015 - 09:39 AM

Because conversation gets way more intelligent here at LGWs when the season starts? :lol:


Well, at least there will be "real" things to talk about???

Yes, I'm totally burying Lefty's connects and how underwhelmed we are by them and which prospects/players were asked for and ultimately not traded.  I mean, really... who gives a f***?

#2621171 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by e_prime on 22 July 2015 - 09:12 AM

My god... Training camp/Pre-Season/October can't get here quick enough.

#2621105 Pulkkinen re-signs.... 1 year deal

Posted by e_prime on 21 July 2015 - 04:06 PM

generalfanager.com says we'll have 100, 000 so we'll be a bit in the minus side when we sign Jurco. But we'll have Datsyuk on LTIR at the beginning so we'll be fine. Franzen is also possibly their.


If the situation happens that everyone's healthy I'm pretty sure waiving Kindl would make everything compliant (assuming he gives us somewhere around 900, 000 relief).

We're going to waive some forwards before we waive Kindl.


generalfanager.com has Miele (575k), Ferraro, and Andersson listed on the forward roster counting against the cap. 


Miele won't be there and one of Ferraro (600k) or Andersson (815k) in all likelihood.  So anywhere from 1.175 to 1.49 million in cap space for Jurco if we're starting the year with this 23 man roster:


Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Nyquist, Franzen, Richards, Tatar, Helm, Abdelkader, Miller, Sheahan, Pulkkinen, Jurco, Glendening, Andersson/Ferraro


Kronwall, Green, Ericsson, Quincey, Smith, Kindl, Dekeyser


Howard, Mrazek


If Datsyuk (most likely) starts the season on LITR and Franzen as well... cap space is a non-issue.

#2620998 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by e_prime on 20 July 2015 - 10:39 AM

it appears that its going just a bit hard re-signing these two. Guess Holland just assumed that they would take the leftover tablescraps. Too many overpaid contracts on this team. Too many useless players that can easily be replaced with cheaper contracts.

There's absolutely no rush to get Jurco or Pulkkinen signed so don't speculate that there's trouble getting them signed... both have stated that they expect deals to get done soon


...and there's more than "tablescraps" left for them, but that isn't the issue either.  Both Jurco and Pulkkinen know they aren't due hefty raises and don't expect them because they know how this team works.

#2620762 Lovable Dan Cleary update thread

Posted by e_prime on 17 July 2015 - 09:37 AM

I used to love Dan Cleary and this whole situation has kinda turned me off towards him... but I certainly blame Holland as much as I blame Cleary... but this situation would never keep me from going to games.

#2620648 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by e_prime on 15 July 2015 - 01:29 PM

I'll level with you - I think it would be a mistake to have Jurco or Pulkkinen on the fourth line, which is what will likely happen if Mule is healthy.

Honestly, I don't think you're getting a pick for guys you may or may not lose on waivers. Personally, I like Callahan's game and I would enjoy having him on Detroit's fourth line. If it doesn't happen, it's not the end of the world, though. A healthy Franzen can make or break a playoff series - you can't say that about Mitch Callahan.

I really see Jurco and Pulkkinen on limited fourth line duties unless they really don't play themselves out of that role.

They really need to push Helm off the second line and they should even be trying to push Abby out of that first line spot.


Slotting them into lines at this point... I dunno.  Kinda hard.  Franzen's spot could be open. You also have to factor in whether Datsyuk will be ready to go at the beginning of the season...


The fact remains that unless some team is really coveting one or more of Andersson, Ferraro, or Callahan they're unlikely to be claimed at the beginning of the season due to teams still figuring out their own team/roster/depth... and the inevitable injuries that will occur throughout the season.  


I too would love to see Cally and Lando eventually get some fourth line time with Glenny.

Like say, instead of Andersson... or when there are injuries that require a call up or next year when we have to make a choice of re-signing a 32 y/o Drew Miller or replacing him with someone younger and cheaper.



not sure about others. However Pronger's did count against salary cap.


#2620611 Johnny Oduya signs with Stars 2 yrs $3.75 AAV

Posted by e_prime on 15 July 2015 - 11:22 AM

We have no cap space.

Or a roster spot. ...but you know.  We could have.

Down Goes Brown @DownGoesBrown 32m32 minutes ago

Every time Jim Nill does anything I think wow, he's one of the smartest GMs in the NHL, and then I go "oh, right the Jason Spezza contract".




...and that Hemsky contract.  ...and that Lehtonen contract.

#2620603 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by e_prime on 15 July 2015 - 11:13 AM

Chuck Pleiness @wingsfrontman 23m23 minutes ago Chesterfield, MI

Forward Louis-Marc Aubry signs a one-year, two-way deal with the wings. Aubry will make $575,000 in the NHL and $80,000 in the AHL.

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In other news:  We can't buy out Franzen until next year, and if we do, it will be costly not in actual dollar amount but in salary cap dollars because of the nature of his front loaded contract. 
If we trade Franzen and he decides to retire, we will be hit with costly recapture salary cap dollars.  If we waive Franzen and he is claimed we are still on the hook for recapture dollars if he does not finish out his contract.  If we waive him and he goes down to GR, we'll garner little savings.
I would post the numbers, but most of you Franzen haters didn't even read this post... let alone care about sound reasoning when it comes to the player and his potential.
His potential, even as a thirteenth forward often scratched -- much like Weiss who's cap hit was more or Cleary, who clearly isn't an NHL caliber player, is worth more than any of the savings we'd get from any of the awful options listed above.  So he doesn't play 82 games and put up the numbers he once did... but if he can slot in for injuries, chip in some goals here and there, get on a streak and dominate. 
Gee. All the clusterf*** of cap woes above and his possible potential  I don't know why I'd want to dump him in the bin.
Also, when the pro-Franzen s***-storm happens, I'm not buying an umbrella.  I'll be like Tim Robbins in Shawshank Redemption after he crawls through the sewage tunnel, raising his arms to the sky with the rain pouring down -- except the exact opposite because I'm all clean and nothing but s*** is raining down.  Sweet glorious Franzen s***!  Still gonna welcome it like SWEET FREEDOM!

#2620590 Free agents this off season

Posted by e_prime on 15 July 2015 - 10:31 AM

Craig Custance @CraigCustance 17m17 minutes ago

2-year deal worth $3.75 million per season for Johnny Oduya & the Stars. Includes partial no-trade. Another strong off-season for Jim Nill.


Still need some D-men, Jim?  You like Kindl, right?  Ericsson? 

#2620582 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by e_prime on 15 July 2015 - 09:57 AM

Hey guys, look... another nice piece on Jurco and his challenges from last season and what he's looking to do this season:




I mean, unless useless head-case Franzen keeps him out of the line up.  :glare:

#2620569 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by e_prime on 15 July 2015 - 06:59 AM

Just noticed this and Pulkkinen is not one of the guys at risk. If anything, a healthy Franzen creates a battle for the 14th forward spot between Andersson, Callahan and Ferraro. Why in the world would Holland put a guy like Pulkkinen on the chopping block before Callahan or Ferraro?

...b-b-b-but I don't want to lose or trade ANY prospects!!!!! 

#2620533 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by e_prime on 14 July 2015 - 05:24 PM

I try not to read too much into these interviews -- mainly due to the translation issues, but also because the player isn't going to say much... ...but I did want to point out that he doesn't expect the moon, just that he wants a little more than his qualifying offer. 


He seemingly has an understanding of how being a player in Detroit "works" noting his comments about Tatar and Nyquist and their respective salaries.  Also seems like he just wants to have a good season.  If you want to speculate anything, you gotta imagine he's feeling good about Blash being the head coach.

#2620354 Mitch Callahan signed 1-year - 600k

Posted by e_prime on 13 July 2015 - 07:06 AM

2 way contract


#2620314 Free agents this off season

Posted by e_prime on 12 July 2015 - 09:17 PM

I'm surprised to see that Cody Franson is still available.

He's busy pricing himself out of a job.

#2620099 Preliminary Red Wings Training Camp Roster

Posted by e_prime on 11 July 2015 - 01:06 PM

I thought That was the joke, that People Are just continuously taking seriously.
Its kip.
He's just being sarcastic saying all our prospects suck. The same way everyone rips on the scapegoats in Detroit...
You pick out What you think his biggest flaw is and extrapolate it into something so ridiculously skewed that every time something bad happens its their fault.

We love Our prospects unconditionally, then they become nhl regulars and we all turn on them, beg For them to be traded or waived, and then turn on Holland for not Trading them away for 6th&7th round picks. And the narrative after he keeps them instead of moving them for stale peanuts Is that Ken Holland is horrible at managing our assets.

I could be wrong, but what seems more plausible, kip being a smart ass:, or him genuinely thinking all our prospects are garbage.
it seems obvious when its laid out that way, right?

Sometimes I think people just don't read other people's posts... or they read too much into them... or don't consider who's written the post.