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#2551882 Lines Thread

Posted by e_prime on 25 November 2014 - 08:56 AM

With the constant looming of injuries when it comes to Datsyuk and Zetterberg, I don't see a future that doesn't involve the Wings giving Weiss a shot at the number two center position he was supposed to be and was signed to be.


They need to EASE, not thrust, him back into the second line center position.

Evaluate if he can be our second line center going forward, if NOT

Evaluate if he can be a top line winger, if NOT

Evaluate his worth to the team vs. his cap-hit/salary, then and only then can we explore trade options for Weiss.


We're always clamoring for reclamation projects up in here... and well, we got one. We've had one.

Last night could be the preview to the coming out party that we've been wanting so badly. 

(Even those who were against this signing from the get-go have to be happy about last night's play from Weiss.)


Ideally at the center position:  

#1. Dats or Z (whichever is healthy -- if they're both healthy, great! Keep them together.)

#2. Weiss

#3. Sheahan

#4. Glendeniinnginiginng


Helm is your most expendable center with the most value.  That being said, I don't see him being moved anytime soon especially when we still need to evaluate Weiss.

#2551842 11/24 GDT : Ottawa Senators 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by e_prime on 24 November 2014 - 10:16 PM

Huge save by Jimmy at the end to preserve the win.

Congrats to Steven Weiss for the first star of the game.

Two goals.  400 career points. GWG. First Star.  Very nice, Weiss.

#2551782 Weiss sent down to GR- conditioning assignment

Posted by e_prime on 24 November 2014 - 09:38 PM


Let's make it a hafftrik

#2551367 Lines Thread

Posted by e_prime on 23 November 2014 - 06:11 PM

"'scuse me while I... WHIP THIS OUT"  You mean, that Jumbo one?

#2551363 Lines Thread

Posted by e_prime on 23 November 2014 - 06:07 PM

I'm putting this here because I didn't want to start another thread.  But did anybody else see Jim Nill absolutely fleece Doug Wilson on that Brendan Dillon for Jason Demers trade?  Apparently if you've got a half assed hockey player, but he's bigger than 6'3 and 220 lbs. you should call the Sharks.  Think they'd take Kindl lol? 

Probably.  Who's a top six forward on the Sharks you'd take?  I dunno?  Someone that's maybe too comfortable in San Jose?  :innocent:

#2551361 Inconsistency

Posted by e_prime on 23 November 2014 - 06:05 PM


#2551356 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by e_prime on 23 November 2014 - 05:47 PM

... Heatley ...



I have watched ... And yes he hasn't been horrible but his days are also numbered and with his bum knees he can go out any moment , I'm not counting on cleary on being there come playoff time

Anyways it's done now just sucked we got nothing ... I'm just hoping we call up pulkkinen real soon and then mantha depending how he keeps doing


s*** on Cleary all you want.  ...and I certainly did this off-season.  I didn't think he had a whisper of a prayer in making this roster let alone being a guy that has made his time worthwhile.

So, a nice helping of crow for me.  Sure.  Serve it on a bigf****** platter.


...but HEATLEY?!!!   GTFOH.

#2551300 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by e_prime on 23 November 2014 - 07:41 AM



He scored. Big whoop. How many players get dealt/picked up/etc. and then go on in their first game to score.

It happens... it's supposed to. Players score goals in this game.

Also, it's how waivers work... Player gets waived, claimed, wants to make an impression on his new team, really goes out and hustles and scores in his first game. (Not to say that Nesty didn't work hard here or want to make an impression.)


As far as the goal goes was it an Amazing goal?  No.  Beautiful goal?  No.  Spectacular goal?  No.


It was a solid, hard working goal that is almost a bit flukey/soft... and I'm trying to give Nestrasil as much credit as possible... but this was the third goal Berra gave up in the first period.  He was immediately pulled and commentators said that Berra had looked "shaky from the start" 


(yes, I was flipping channels on CenterIce because the Wings were having such a wonderful outing last night.)

#2548638 Lines Thread

Posted by e_prime on 12 November 2014 - 10:41 AM


Agreed.  He's consistently come up short given all the hype.  I'd place him squarely in the Tyler Myers camp.  Big, plays lots of minutes, but doesn't really do anything great with them. 

...and planted firmly, again right alongside Myers, in the category of "Tons of potential. I wonder what he'd do on a different team/in a different system." 


Too bad the asking prices for both of these guys is way too high. 

KFQ and JMF'nK camp for us.

#2548542 Wings call up McCollum, assign Mrazek to Grand Rapids

Posted by e_prime on 11 November 2014 - 07:38 AM

All I am positive about is that we all know that we know nothing about what's going on.


...but boy how we do love to speculate!!   ^_^

#2548463 What happened to Calle Jarnkrok?

Posted by e_prime on 10 November 2014 - 07:50 AM

Lidstrom, Zetterberg and Datsyuk both came into the league around 175 lbs. and got up to 190-195  eventually.  It's doable.  I don't know if Jarnkrok will, but it's silly to think that Jarnkrok is doomed to be small because he is currently. 


I hope he is. That way we won't have LGW still lamenting his trade 10 years from now.

#2547591 Lines Thread

Posted by e_prime on 06 November 2014 - 10:45 AM


Well don't misunderstand me.  I'm the President of his fan club only inasmuch as I want him to do well enough to get traded.  He's not a terrible third pairing defenseman but he gets paid too much and I really like some of those kids. 



Yes.  He's still got minor league options. 



If Kindl plays good enough for LGW to call him "solid" he'll be on another team next year.  Catch-22. 

Trust me. I only want the treasurer's job as a temp spot.  I'm in the same club as you.  I think we've got a plethora of middling third pair defensemen.  Ship Kindl off to Edmonton or somewhere else players won't typically go. He's signed at a reasonable price for some of those teams for another two years (?)


Hudler's been okay off the Wings. Same with Flip. I can't and won't lament the fact that they're no longer Wings, in the same way that I can't and won't obsess about how prospects that we've traded away are doing. Does it sometimes suck when the player turns out to be great... or is it simply that they're flourishing in a different system/actually given an opportunity. It's the way the business side of the game works. Simple. As. That.

I was mostly thinking about how much everyone used to dislike Ericsson, then he suddenly became a solid blue liner in LGWs eyes once Lids left. Now he's become slightly disliked again.

Ericsson isn't having the greatest of starts, but he's not as bad as some like to moan about.

#2547579 Lines Thread

Posted by e_prime on 06 November 2014 - 09:59 AM

Lets be honest -- The eyeball test, your favorite players, and hated players all factor into the hows and whys of who and what we want for our team, but lets use the information that's available too.  WE'RE IN THE AGE OF ANALYTICS!  It's all out there to be had. Just make sure you use legit sources. Simple as that.


Some folks wouldn't trade Smith for anything.  Some wouldn't trade Jurco or Tatar.

Hell, some of us are still lamenting the Calle Jarnkrok trade... it's why we're here.

To talk about the team we love. Good or bad.


Also, kip... if you're the President of the "Kindl4Prez" fanclub, can I at least be the treasurer.  If he could just reign in the mistakes a bit, his value could be... well, at least decent.

#2547567 Lines Thread

Posted by e_prime on 06 November 2014 - 08:44 AM


#2546887 GDT:11/4 Detroit Red Wings vs. Ottawa Senators 7:30p.m

Posted by e_prime on 05 November 2014 - 08:31 AM

Wow people are really freaking out.  We played like absolute s*** the last 2 games and almost beat both teams.  Tatar/Jurco just need to adjust, hell it seems as though you can see those 2 slowly emerging from their slumps. Calm down everyone


I'm not freaking out, but it's certainly disconcerting when you start the season off 6-2-2.  Start a new month and proceed to drop your first two games against teams that you should beat.


I know that we got a point out of that game vs. Buffalo... but it was only one point... in a game... with Buffalo.