I believe Franzen and Holland would work something out, -- IF -- Franzen actually decided to hang them up... but I agree Kip, we're going to see Franzen on this roster for a loonnnnnggggg while. Ultimately eating up a roster spot that could be used more effectively.
If I were GM, I'd say screw it... and buy him out next off-season. What's gonna happen? Franzen signs with Boston and magically gets back to previous form and goes beast-mode... wait.., I best stop that right now!
Hate to see anyone injured. But I'm glad Franzen is out. The guy just does nothing. Don't even know he is on the ice half the time, until he gets checked, then he is always hurt in some way. One good year and the wings sign him big. Bad move Holland.
Oh! Revisionist history! YAY! Please tell us more in the Franzen on IR thread.
Looks like a lot of you are gonna see what you want to see when it comes to that first goal.
The puck went off Mrazek right back onto Raymond's stick... Was he way out of his net and super-aggro in the first few minutes of the game? Certainly... It almost looks like his momentum is carrying him out further than he might want to be... but it's not as if he's chased Raymond BEHIND the net. He's off to the side of the net the entire play.
I don't know what he was supposed to do about the actual goal once Raymond is behind and around to the other side of the net.
Where's the skater that's supposed to be on Raymond? Is it Weiss? He got cut off on the opposite side of the net... and no one picked him up.
Does it look bad on Mrazek? Sure. Is his super aggressive style of play heart attack inducing? Sure.
Can he pull it back together, calm himself down, and pull out a win? Well, look at the final score.
It's definitely not being asked in local coverage. I've got about every Red Wings news source and blog tagged, key worded, and sent to my phone. If anything happens with this team, I'm alerted to it, and I haven't seen a single mention of Weiss situation across the board. I've even used my MLive alter ego, "TheGlistening", to email Khan directly and ask for an update. Everybody is mum. It's like they're purposely not covering an obvious story...but I have no idea why.
Use your Puck Daddy alter ego, "Mayor McBoobs" and ask Wysh to get one of his lackeys on it... Hell, he could ask St. James, she's on the podcast on the reg, to ask about it... give her something meaningful to do.
For those of you not familiar, do yourself a favor: Google (Image Search) Mayor McBoobs. Good for a chuckle even if you're not into boobs. NSFW-ish.
Any scouting report I've ever seen on Weiss mentions his two way game and defensive responsibilities. But I don't know either. That's why I'm irritated that nobody has bothered to ask or write about it. You've got a 5 million dollar player getting 7-10 minutes a night, AND he wasn't playing bad before getting benched. It's a head scratcher.
I've never seen anything that says Weiss isn't a defensively responsible forward. Maybe not "heavy" on the puck... but maybe people get confused about his two-way play because he used to be on one of the s***tiest teams in the league.
On top of that, I would be amazed if Holland ever offered a 5 million dollar+ contract to ANY FORWARD that isn't at least a decently responsible two-way player.
Well... now that we're all clear in the knowledge that wingsfan1991 thinks that Weiss is hot garbage... the rest of us can go back to discussing why exactly it is that Weiss is not getting appropriate ice time...
I just don't get it. Weiss was brought in to be a 2C. He's back in game shape, fought off minor injuries since returning from a couple major ones... and now, with limited ice time, he's putting up points... but he's not elevated in the lineup What gives?
Jurco's a rookie... put him on the fourth. He shouldn't mind.
Helm and Abby are energy/banger guys, rotate them onto the fourth. They'll still be effective players.
Instead... No... let's let a guy who's a proven top-six winger languish on the fourth line with limited ice time. Makes sense to me...
Lol you sound serious? Weiss has good hands? He puts up points? What 12 in 15 games? Wait til he's done playing the year and ends up with less then 30. And what he do last year? Helm creates chances on every line he plays on... Sure he doesn't have that finishing touch no arguement there but it's night and day when he's on the ice vs Weiss and Babs knows it.. That's why one plays 16 min and the other is playing 8 min. 5m for 5 years for Weiss is a joke and a half.. Scott Gomez part 2.
Scott Gomez Pt. 2, huh? You realize that guy didn't score a goal for over a year.
Did you decide to make 2015 the year of the troll?
I would point you in the direction of previous years stats, injury history, TOI differences, etc. but I doubt it would have any effect on your selective vision nor change your mind...