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#2524785 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 20 June 2014 - 08:25 AM

Yzerman played the game with integrity. Thornton is a diving, embellishing scumbag.

Sather is likely to overpay for him, anyway, if the rumors are true that he is indeed interested.


So not only will they take on Thornton's cap-hit after dumping Richards' through a buy-out.  They'll probably have to send  Brassard (maybe not the caliber player of Big Joe, but he's, as they say, "on the right side of thirty.")  plus other pieces...because you know it's not going to be Brassard for Thornton straight up.  


...and ultimately they'll be right back in the position they are right now... almost $54 up against the cap with 7 forwards, 4 d-men, and 2 d-men signed. If they keep themselves in that position they will not be able to re-sign Stralman, Boyle, or Pouliot. Certainly not all three.


Sather is an idiot.  I swear to gawd! He needs to realize that they New Yawk Rangers made it to the Finals on the good fortunes of seeding, a Montreal team determined to beat Boston, just enough talent to beat a couple of dysfunctional teams from Pennsylvania team, and a player's personal loss turned into team motivation.


Thornton passing to Nash sounds great.  Doesn't it.  Until you realize there's no more depth after that. 

Sather needs to maybe take a breath and realize that he needs talent around Henrik if he's going to get the Rags back to the Cup Final.  Not just a star center in Joe Thornton. 


I would be very surprised to see the New York Ranger back in the Cup Final next year.


On topic:  Marleau would look pretty good in a Wings jersey.  Would take him over Thornton.

A big bodied winger that's still pretty fast, a two-way player, and that can score... bringing him East might give him a boost.

Well my position isn't to win a cup every year, had you read my position you would have seen it was to either be a contender or be making tangible steps towards becoming a contender again, 


I'm pretty sure I pointed that out.  Hence points my points A) and B) to mirror yours. 

...but you read it the way you want to, bro.

#2524740 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by e_prime on 19 June 2014 - 10:22 PM

I think it's a great to have them in one place and should be pinned.



#2524738 Avalanche are taking Ryan O'Reilly to club-selected arbitration

Posted by e_prime on 19 June 2014 - 10:18 PM

It was a business decision for O'Reilly to sign the offersheet with Calgary.  Nothing more, nothing less.

It was a business decision for the Avs to take him to arbitration. Nothing more, nothing less.


If O'Reilly really wants/ed to be a number one center on a lesser team.  So be it but, he should look around and realize what they're trying to build in Colorado and tell his agent to f*** off for a bit. 

If the Avalanche can take a little more time and gather up a few more pieces.  Specifically on defense. 

You might be looking at Colorado Avalanche Cup Winner, Ryan O'Reilly.  Wouldn't that look nice on your resume, Ryan?

...and that, sir... can get you a far greater payday than some half-baked offer-sheet from a franchise in the midst of a lengthy rebuild.

O'Reilly + Kesler + Niskanen = Cup. 


It's fun to dream. 



#2524735 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 19 June 2014 - 10:04 PM


While some of that may be true, there's a couple things right now that I think work to change that. 


1. The emergence of several kids who carried us has (hopefully) shown KH that some of these guys can be slotted in and it's not all about veterans anymore


2. We've got a good amount of cap space for the first time in I can't remember


3. We've also got a gluttony of good, mid level prospects who we could potentially package to get something decent in return. 


While the recent history might suggest otherwise, I think KH will do something decent this offseason. 

:yahoo: You're my boy!!

Welcome aboard the U.S.S. Positivity.  I'll be your Captain.  We're currently sailing though some choppy waters over the next two weeks of our voyage.  Please keep your life-preservers handy.


Well first you strawmanned my position, I didn't say they had to be contenders every year, I said they had to be or they had to be making progress to that point. They have objectively regressed every year since 2008. Zetterberg and Datsyuk are both past their prime, the defense has been in steep decline, and Howard is Osgood 2.0, meaning he's as good as the team in front of him. You say we should wait for FA and the draft and etc. Look at the last 4 years as a guide, they do nothing in FA worth noting, nothing at the deadline, they retain older plugs and roleplayers while starting players like Nyquist and Jurco in the AHL. 

Ahhh... the good old strawman. He's a sight for sore eyes on these forums.  

He didn't strawman your position. 

He clearly broke down your position into A) You wanna win the cup every year... and he said that isn't very realistic. 

He then went on to say that in his opinion, B) he disagrees that the team is not taking steps towards that goal because he thinks the team is trending upwards not downwards.  ...and then went on to give his opinion.


He's also gone on to state your overall position very plainly. 

You're not as they say, "A glass half-full type of guy"   ...and that's okay. Own it, FFS.

  It's not as if you're not making salient points, ShamAn*

You just have to understand that while everyone wants to win or contend for the Cup every year. 

Not everyone is going to be as down or as pessimistic about the future as you seem to be.

...and that's okay too.  ...just stop pretending that you're not Debbie Downer.


So, if we trade for Thornton does that mean Weiss goes to the wing?  And if so, does that mean one of Franzen or Nyquist becomes the top line winger?  And how does re-signing Alfie influence this?


Is there actually a plan or are we just grasping at straws here?

There might be a plan.  Hell, maybe Holland finally has a plan A, B, and C.  As for us, all of us here.  Yeah. We're all grasping at straws. Desperately.  :lol:



Finally, and this goes for ALL OF YOU!

Yes, we say we should wait for FA and the draft and etc. because well, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO! 



...or would you rather us throw fifth rounders at Dan Boyle for no good reason.




EDIT:  Sorry, Shaman.  For a second I spelled your handle like you're a Scottish dance band from the nineties.

#2524500 Dan Boyle's rights traded to the Islanders…..

Posted by e_prime on 18 June 2014 - 10:13 PM

Nice English comprehension skills.

Yes, that's the real problem around here... kip's first language is logic.

#2524383 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 18 June 2014 - 09:23 AM

I'm going to reserve my frustration, depression, loss of will to live, rage towards Ken Holland's existence till after July 1st.

We've got the draft upcoming - June 27, 28. 

Compliance buyouts that can happen until June 30th and Free Agency that begins on the first.


This is a frustrating two weeks where the Finals are over and almost nothing but speculation can happen.

So, let's all take a deep breath and collect ourselves. Some of us are beginning to sound like frantic lunatics.

Some of us are already there.


Hell, maybe the site needs to change it's name for the week.



/voice of reason speech

#2524372 GM moves

Posted by e_prime on 18 June 2014 - 07:26 AM

Are 'Team Grit, Durability, and Truculence,' 'Size/Stature,' and 'Nationality Compliment' seminars available in GM school?

#2524371 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 18 June 2014 - 07:23 AM

Produce a link and I'll believe that "Study"


Are 'Team Grit, Durability, and Truculence,' 'Size/Stature,' and 'Nationality Compliment' seminars available in GM school?

#2524334 Shawn Thornton will not be returning to the Bruins

Posted by e_prime on 17 June 2014 - 09:40 PM


Powers you say?



OMG.  This made my day!

#2524325 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by e_prime on 17 June 2014 - 09:13 PM

Good Lord.  Five pages already. 


*resists urges to read what will ultimately be a clusterf*** of paranoia and whiny bulls****



#2524323 Shawn Thornton will not be returning to the Bruins

Posted by e_prime on 17 June 2014 - 09:10 PM


Didn't he score several points against our terrible team in that series, despite limited minutes?  


Our 4th liners are hot garbage, and people here are making fun of Thornton, who can actually make the games somewhat interesting to watch, unlike our 4th line of Miller, Glenfiddich and whomever.  

I hope he didn't hear any one making fun of him... I hear he's not afraid to fight.


Also, if Glenfiddich was on our fourth line.  I'd have that jersey already.  Goddamn that'd be awesome.

I'd settle for a Daniels, Beam, Walker... hell, even Powers.

#2524318 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 17 June 2014 - 08:49 PM

Is it starting to become clear to anyone else that with the exception of some lame ass acquisition like Dan Boyle or Tom Gilbert we're going to have the EXACT same team as last year? 


All the resources in the world won't make a difference if there's no will to use them.  Puke.


Expect D and Z to be hurt again, expect the kids to have good but not great seasons, expect Alfie to be re-signed and then be hurt/run out of gas, and expect our defense to be poor again.  Lather, rinse, repeat. 


Did someone hack your account today?  This is the most negative post I've seen from you this off-season.


I'm worried.  Please let me know if you're okay.  ;)

#2524118 GM moves

Posted by e_prime on 17 June 2014 - 06:51 AM

I know they are just being used as examples of Wings players that have the toughness you're looking for but, those guys collected points and PIMs almost 20 years ago.  Lets not bring time-travel into the thread.


Even though the game has gotten bigger/stronger/faster, the league doesn't have a wealth of guys that have all those traits wrapped up nicely in the one player package.  Also, the league didn't have a salary cap so as coveted as those players were, even then, they were easier to obtain because all you had to do was PAY THEM WHATEVER MR. I WAS WILLING TO SPEND.

#2524114 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 17 June 2014 - 06:39 AM

People are surprised? This will be the same story again this year as last.

Why so negative, bro?

#2524097 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by e_prime on 16 June 2014 - 09:36 PM


Aren't they really high on him?

They may be.  I can see why.  ...but if they're unwilling to trade Hall, Eberle, RNH and MacT wants to make some moves, Perron may be tradeable.   Other than that it's Gagner and Yak that I can see as movable pieces.  I've no interest in Gagner and Yakupov isn't the high on my list either. 

P.S. Impressive Rant.

Don't encourage him.